About the new Korean SC2 Association - Page 7

On November 18 2010 15:16 AyJay wrote:
Lol Macavity's post is one of those who just post to disagree/have argument/start flamewar.

On November 18 2010 15:56 Rekrul wrote:
My post is a general overview in order to put things somewhat in perspective for the people who don't have the common sense and/or knowledge of e-sports to understand.

You and Macavity's posts are merely taking random points that strung my original post together out of context and trying to argue them on a plane that has nothing to do with any of the issues at hand in the first place.

If I felt like making a comprehensive post about e-sports and it's business side I would have done it long ago.

On November 19 2010 21:43 Macavity wrote:


Not at all. Keep in mind that I'm actually trying to have a discussion while other people are trying to stop discussion on this subject.

Once again, I will explain my concern. Entertainment industries tend to heavily leverage the talent, and untalented outsiders act as a parasite on the revenue stream. The talent doesn't realize this because they are often young and focused intently on their craft. They don't realize how heavily leveraged they are. Kids signing 'bad contracts' and all just proves this point.

All Rekrul has done is talked about the SC 2 Association's "good intentions". Only a fool would accept any organization based on their 'intentions'. So I want some more substantial questions answered such as, "How much of the SC 2 revenue pie will the SC 2 Association get?" It's very possible Rekrul and other people do not have this information yet. But answers such as that are paramount in understanding what exactly is going on.

And that is all I want to do is find out what is going on.



You painted the issue as 'SC 2 Association' or 'slavery' which is laughable. We didn't fall off a turnip truck yesterday.

Let me give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your OP was disjointed because of lack of sleep or something else. On this message forum (like any other message forum), these things tend to happen. If someone is telling me that the SC 2 Association is awesome, I'd like there to be presented facts backing it up. If this SC 2 Association isn't "awesome", then we have a problem.



My posts are framed around questions. In the last post, I nicely asked four simple questions.

No one is taking you out of context. I'm quoting you verbatim. It is strange that you are so defensive.



Or perhaps you are unable to. Or unwilling.

Again, why make a thread about the SC 2 Association if you don't wish to participate in it? It makes no sense to make a thread about the SC 2 Association and then not answer any questions about it. Instead, your replies have been condescending. To sum up your two follow-up posts...

"LOL"

and

"If I felt like making a comprehensive post about e-sports and it's business side I would have done it long ago."

Give me a break.

If you are going to make a post telling people what to think, you need to back it up with substance!

On November 20 2010 02:43 Rekrul wrote:


It is merely a group of key users among SC2 progamers/teams that will have meetings and discuss issues at hand to make sure no player is being abused like they kinda were in SC1. Of course the 'association' isn't going to take $. No clue why you are assuming and asking all these retarded questions.

On November 19 2010 21:43 Macavity wrote:


Not at all. Keep in mind that I'm actually trying to have a discussion while other people are trying to stop discussion on this subject.

Once again, I will explain my concern. Entertainment industries tend to heavily leverage the talent, and untalented outsiders act as a parasite on the revenue stream. The talent doesn't realize this because they are often young and focused intently on their craft. They don't realize how heavily leveraged they are. Kids signing 'bad contracts' and all just proves this point.

All Rekrul has done is talked about the SC 2 Association's "good intentions". Only a fool would accept any organization based on their 'intentions'. So I want some more substantial questions answered such as, "How much of the SC 2 revenue pie will the SC 2 Association get?" It's very possible Rekrul and other people do not have this information yet. But answers such as that are paramount in understanding what exactly is going on.

And that is all I want to do is find out what is going on.



You painted the issue as 'SC 2 Association' or 'slavery' which is laughable. We didn't fall off a turnip truck yesterday.

Let me give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your OP was disjointed because of lack of sleep or something else. On this message forum (like any other message forum), these things tend to happen. If someone is telling me that the SC 2 Association is awesome, I'd like there to be presented facts backing it up. If this SC 2 Association isn't "awesome", then we have a problem.



My posts are framed around questions. In the last post, I nicely asked four simple questions.

No one is taking you out of context. I'm quoting you verbatim. It is strange that you are so defensive.



Or perhaps you are unable to. Or unwilling.

Again, why make a thread about the SC 2 Association if you don't wish to participate in it? It makes no sense to make a thread about the SC 2 Association and then not answer any questions about it. Instead, your replies have been condescending. To sum up your two follow-up posts...

"LOL"

and

"If I felt like making a comprehensive post about e-sports and it's business side I would have done it long ago."

Give me a break.

If you are going to make a post telling people what to think, you need to back it up with substance!

On November 20 2010 06:42 WarSong wrote:


man, is it ever frustrating to attempt laying out your questions in a clear and concise format, in order to foster intelligent *discussion*, and then have people just plug their ears and yell over you. post secondary education really makes me appreciate thought out arguments. too bad intelligence is a faculty shared by the minority.