EPTi think march needs a bit more credit, he took the support/gank role usually in a team that had the biggest superstars and delivered at worst decent performances. he is not an awesome support but he did his job well. don't look to him for lategamers.
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shadymmj
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i think march needs a bit more credit, he took the support/gank role usually in a team that had the biggest superstars and delivered at worst decent performances. he is not an awesome support but he did his job well. don't look to him for lategamers. | ||
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InteGrated
United States259 Posts
Shadymmj, unfortunately, the older pros of the dota scene just do not have the individual skill to keep up with todays players. kind of like brood war in terms of South korea. Jaedong or Flash (newer players) would crush the older pros. Yes they were old and they were considered legends cause of the kind of innovation they brought to the game. Not as much Raw skill in terms of today's players. Same accords to biscaya. His prime was shortlived and irrelevant. | ||
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AlexDeLarge
Romania218 Posts
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InteGrated
United States259 Posts
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Rocko
Canada31 Posts
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On November 17 2010 03:19 shadymmj wrote: biscaya was shaang. shaang was 2nd best tda player after feardarkness in 2004-2005 (?) if my memory is correct. overall he was a very good player in his prime who could keep up with the innovation of fear, merlini and remstar when competitive dota was still young. i think march needs a bit more credit, he took the support/gank role usually in a team that had the biggest superstars and delivered at worst decent performances. he is not an awesome support but he did his job well. don't look to him for lategamers. I don't remember Remstar being any good at all. I remember him dong articles in competitive Dota and leading a team at one point (or being apart of one, its been a long time since I've heard these names), but as a Dota player he was never the best of the best. Certainly not the level of fear. | ||
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HelloSon
United States456 Posts
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Warcloud
United States97 Posts
nice satire | ||
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InteGrated
United States259 Posts
Shaang's mom was known as the achilles heel for Shaang. Lets just say his one weakness is the Constant Fights with his Mom. Not as ferocious as Ken and his Uncle but truly a Wish washy scenario between Him and his mom Anyways back to Select, Lets cheer him on guys! | ||
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Kimmay
United States56 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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AlexDeLarge
Romania218 Posts
On November 17 2010 03:22 InteGrated wrote: Alexdelarge, actually the dota community exceeds the warcraft 3 community, Tenfold in terms of size.. So in comparison, for the community, he has a lot more fans in the dota Community. Now, maybe. I'm talking about 2004 times, back when wc3 was surging, and there was hardly a dota community at that time. Also, you can't really compare the two games in terms of greatness. Wc3 was a 1v1 game, thus players gained a lot more recognition for their skill. Also, it was a lot harder than dota and with probably 100 times more prizemoney involved. Moon and Lyn, just a couple of examples, had each individual years where they won over 120k from tournaments, on top of the fact that they had 5-12k monthly salary. I don't think there is any dota player in history who made more than 20k in his whole career, prizemoney & salaries combined. Yes, the conclusion is logical. Dota is a joke game for competitive e-sports. It's only appeal was that noobs and rejects from other top e-sports enjoyed it a lot, being an easy, social game - with hardly any thinking involved. | ||
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Blobskillz
Germany548 Posts
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SkyZz
United States337 Posts
I heard of Select a few times when i was still following the Dota scene, he didn't really make much of an impact though... | ||
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Proposal
United States1310 Posts
http://nadota.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1347&hilit=PEACE SELECT | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
But in terms of popularity Dota is definitely more popular than any of the games we're talking about, including SC 2, so I actually foresee a bright future for Dota eSports given how many companies are now in the business of making Dota-like games, and even Blizzard is starting to pay a lot of attention. Surely one of them can make it more spectator friendly and competitive. | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On November 17 2010 03:36 AlexDeLarge wrote: Now, maybe. I'm talking about 2004 times, back when wc3 was surging, and there was hardly a dota community at that time. Also, you can't really compare the two games in terms of greatness. Wc3 was a 1v1 game, thus players gained a lot more recognition for their skill. Also, it was a lot harder than dota and with probably 100 times more prizemoney involved. Moon and Lyn, just a couple of examples, had each individual years where they won over 120k from tournaments, on top of the fact that they had 5-12k monthly salary. I don't think there is any dota player in history who made more than 20k in his whole career, prizemoney & salaries combined. Yes, the conclusion is logical. Dota is a joke game for competitive e-sports. It's only appeal was that noobs and rejects from other top e-sports enjoyed it a lot, being an easy, social game - with hardly any thinking involved. That is so far from the truth. DotA was a game where individual skill, regardless of it being a team game, was quite apparent from player to player. It is also not an easy game by any stretch, the vast majority of the top players have been the same top players for a good few years, there have been very few new players that have been able to make it regardless of the fact that the game has grown almost exponentially. Skill is a demanded aspect on DotA, and is probably why competitive Dota never grew a ton, you hardly got to see any new faces. But the thing to note about Dota is that it was never a great spectator sport, DotA was a game that served the people who played it rather than the people who liked to watch it... But last I played dota was a few years ago, but back then on GG Client (I think its Garena these days?) there were 300k people on at any given time playing Dota. | ||
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
On November 17 2010 03:45 Proposal wrote: A disgruntled teammate calling SeleCT out: http://nadota.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1347&hilit=PEACE SELECT Since the website requires a login, could you just post what was said in quotations please? also, Did not realize that SeleCT was such a jack of all trades. Apparently he just has what it takes to be a great gamer, whatever that may be. | ||
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Kimmay
United States56 Posts
On November 17 2010 03:55 KiLL_ORdeR wrote: Since the website requires a login, could you just post what was said in quotations please? also, Did not realize that SeleCT was such a jack of all trades. Apparently he just has what it takes to be a great gamer, whatever that may be. post is very long and hard to understand. Kids need to stop with the run-on sentences. + Show Spoiler + hi guys, i was playing under azn|ceylon and i would just like to announce that gdt indeed played well and gj to gdt, and that game is probably the last game you guys will see me play since i have realized that moving forward in dota will only cause you to hate the game and will take away all the fun you will ever have in the game. And for select, he is a real joke. Other then his micro skills hes just a subpar player. Okay give him something that involves more then 1 unit and maybe he might be able to impress you but other then that.......And this guy is the captain of the team but he can't lead anything or barely even talks in vent which is a crucial thing for the captain to do if the team is supposed to be anywhere near succesful. All he does is flame or gets disappointed when everything doesn't go his way and he doesn't flame everyone, just one person on the team and then it gets really hard for that player to continue to play without being discouraged. Like everygame i would play with him he would find a way to flame me mostly, even when the carry hero goes and gets picked off, ohhh guess what, its still my fault and when im not playing i seen that everygame he would begin to flame ken even for things he hasn't done. How does a team grow if your ally likes to flame a player on the team guysss. You guys think hes really good with chen, panda, and enchantress but its not worth having a player who can't speak on vent and lead the team, the mastermind of the team is really ezzy who actually calls most of the shots and leads the team basically, you think im out of position here to say anything about him but truth is it don't matter~~~~I DONT PLAY ANYMORE WOOO> i realized again how stupid this brainwashing game is and how fucking addicting it is to and what bad influence it has on people. Since march of last year i only been playing dota again for about 2 and a half months and i realized the competetive scene is a joke, especially when people can't take loses, and because of people like select the game will never grow out of its shell. Anyways it was fun playing in SaP and with team xaxa aka AzN while it lasted, and thanks select for making me hate this game so now i can actually resume my life and start enjoying it again >. Shoutouts to KEN(beSt NA farmer), EZzy(amazing player), drew, sam... Power.Net, Umbreongopewpew, Live, Persian_prince, INK and everyone in his vent (best vent ever!) also everyone else in the dota community, i loved all you guys wooo. P.S. Hope AzN last long, but highly doubt with SelecT that is possible, but you guys think he is a really core player of the team because he can play 3 heros really well so i think its just going to end up dieing. P.S.S Biggest mistake of my life was going to ebgames 3 months ago to buy wc3 again because i wanted to play dota... | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
So, given that WC 3 is considered a relatively successful eSport, I see no reason why Dota can't be the same. The key is having a lot of Dota players who are interested in watching the game competitively - because at the end of the day that is the drive for all eSports - the interest of the actual players of those games... ... And Dota has by far the largest community of gamers among all the Blizzard-derived eSports, maybe even the largest community in general (though I'm not sure about the numbers for CS and Halo). | ||
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