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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 13 2010 20:47 GMT
#301
I added music to his speech

E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
zyzski
Profile Joined May 2010
United States698 Posts
November 13 2010 20:50 GMT
#302
SO GOOD <3
TYBG
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
November 13 2010 20:51 GMT
#303
Why did I have to tune out of the stream after the games. I figured it would just be interviews and summaries or something.

Thanks to the guy for the youtube link, was awesome.
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
November 13 2010 20:53 GMT
#304
On November 14 2010 05:47 udgnim wrote:
I added music to his speech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSZWSG2eH3M


No offense but thats a horrible choice of music, should have used
The naniwa - Unit of protoss skill, defined as the number of gates you build off of one base
Shaok
Profile Joined October 2010
297 Posts
November 13 2010 20:59 GMT
#305
On November 14 2010 04:29 Confuse wrote:
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On November 14 2010 04:24 Alpina wrote:
Well I disagree about such thing that Nestea had great courage or something like that. It does not require much will to play video games, and everyone who loves SC2 could play it for hours and hours, but the problem is the most people does not have time for that, and there is more important things in life.

It's not like you were learning math 20 hours a day to get a diploma in the university or training whole day in the gym to break record or something. It's just a video game and playing it a lot does not require much will for most of us.



... i don't know if you're trolling or not :/ playing to train competitively is quite different from casually gaming for 10-15 hours if you have "nothing to do".

...


Its a clear trolling attempt man, I don't know how anyone can think that... rofl
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
November 13 2010 21:00 GMT
#306
Yeah.. wow that caught me offguard.

I always liked Jon, but as he was starting it, I was getting ready to roll my eyes thinking "Oh great, a cheesy follow your dreams bit." To my surprise... I can't explain, but that was so well thought out and sincere it was a really epic way to close the broadcast, esp to us not as familiar or emotionally invested in Nestea personally. Even reading the transcript doesnt do it justice, something about hearing it in Jon's gentle voice and flawed English -- being economical with the words, but able to express such deep sentiments completely.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
November 13 2010 21:05 GMT
#307
On November 14 2010 04:24 Alpina wrote:
Well I disagree about such thing that Nestea had great courage or something like that. It does not require much will to play video games, and everyone who loves SC2 could play it for hours and hours, but the problem is the most people does not have time for that, and there is more important things in life.

It's not like you were learning math 20 hours a day to get a diploma in the university or training whole day in the gym to break record or something. It's just a video game and playing it a lot does not require much will or "courage" for most of us.

It's not having the courage to sit and play a game, it's having courage to try his life at progaming, have a lackluster career for 10 years, but still persevere. His friends and family probably tried to discourage him for years, but he kept it in his heart and he's now like 29 and finally winning a tourney. He had the courage to pursue such dream, that's all.
Flash, Stats, Reach, Tossgirl <> Boxer, Nestea, MC, Foxer fangirl | http://osu.ppy.sh/u/181432
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
November 13 2010 21:21 GMT
#308
On November 14 2010 04:31 FrostOtter wrote:
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On November 13 2010 22:37 ace246 wrote:
Guys, you have to realise that butchji is right for the wrong reasons. Someone like a lawyer, ceo or anyother high class career gets high pay because THEY ACTUALLY MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO THE COMMUNITY. .

No they don't. Those positions are just as culturally constructed as "progaming," they are just accepted by the national/international community as being essentially.

If all the lawyers, CEOs, and other office jobs disappeared tonight, humanity would continue on as it has for thousands of years. The fact is that many people don't seem to realize that the professions we hold in esteem today were considered trash in the past (see lawyers, actors, etc.).

90 percent of the jobs today (especially in America, the land where nothing is manufactured anymore) are as artificial and unessential as anything creative or resulting from the advanced technology and standards of living we have today. The stock market, for instance, is an entire industry (encompassing the other industries) based on trading imaginary bits of paper that are worth an amount of other imaginary bits of paper that have value because people have decided that they have value; despite the apparent wealth and glamor of the successful stock traders/hedge fund people/ etc., they useless, except in the way that we have given them use through rationalizing their existence.

So let's just rationalize progaming as being useful.


you're a fucking idiot aren't you? my dad is a lawyer and the reason he became one was because in his best friend was framed for 2nd degree assault he never committed. In fact he was with my dad at the time but somehow the system found the evidence insubstantial and he couldn't afford a lawyer. He served 7 years. Go take a look in the mirror before you start calling people trash.
Sinborn
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States275 Posts
November 13 2010 21:26 GMT
#309
On November 14 2010 03:45 bulgom wrote:
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On November 14 2010 00:38 Sinborn wrote:
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I was fine until he used fanart as a measurement of personal success. I cringed hard when that came around.

At that point, I would have to omit that part of the speech because it reminded me of the vacuous mindset that reinforces Youtube celebrities like Chris Crocker. Fan art is cool, but waving it over someone seems like an extraordinarily weak way to justify your position, if not a touch subtractive.

Other than that, John pulled a Zenio on all his naysayers, and that's perfectly fine with me.


I wouldn't go as far as him using it to measure his success. I think it was more like, "Hey, you told me I was wasting my time doing what I love, but now look at me. People appreciate what I'm doing, and someone even liked it enough to draw FANART of me." Honestly, when does anyone draw fanart of a person? It's not something you see every day.


I know what he's trying to say and I agree with him, but on its face, it's a weird and awkward means of establishing a conclusion. It interrupted the flow of the speech for me, basically. If he would have piece-by-piece'd the reasoning of why the fanart is a key distinction, I'd be more at ease. Strategically, I found the fan-art example to be the hardest element to translate to a contrary mindset overall and it caused me to pause and remind myself that realistically, SC2 is fundamentally about fun, passion and self-expression, one of which is art. God, some of those signs have baller drawings. John is no exception. We're in a crowd on the internet, we can, theoretically, draw better signs with more direct exposure to the intended recipient.

Basically, fanart isn't common in applications of people because of a lot of uncontrollable factors. You have to be in an occupation that has a reasonable amount of visibility, have competent artists with time, your occupation is linked to entertainment, and so on. Given the nature of the job market overall, you don't have a lot of these kinds of jobs with that kind of audience. I would venture to conclude that while John's fanart is god-tier and was drawn from love, it's exceedingly difficult to get other people to draw, no pun intended, the same amount of worth due to being rare out of circumstance or career choice.

I'm really talking about the moment, of course. Now, I can extrapolate a billion positive things that are implied and reinforced by context. Still, I can't shake this feeling that although this speech is about community, I still prefer to call this speech John's victory speech. In a weird paradox, by him reaching out to us, he glorifies himself in the most positive and flawless manner possible.
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
November 13 2010 21:26 GMT
#310
On November 14 2010 01:33 Eleclight wrote:
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On November 14 2010 01:27 Thoramas wrote:
I admire his guts for hijacking the stream to say that speech, E-Sports need more passionate people like him.

I hope someone recorded a video of that segment and uploads it to youtube.


Here it is

Yes!!! Thanks for the link
mofoo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden96 Posts
November 13 2010 21:28 GMT
#311
I just watched the final game again and heard that speech for the second time.

Oh man...
It was even more awesome the second time and I'm totally joining his fan club :D

He had perfect timing on the speech aswell! Nothing important was happening during the speech. And another thing, the commentators (BOTH) kind of lost it after that speech. I totally understand that.

That "wow" in the end kind of explains it all :D

EPIC! EPIC! EPIC!
SC2 will change my life!
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
November 13 2010 21:32 GMT
#312
Amazing speech, very well thought out and delivered with pristine excellence.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
November 13 2010 21:32 GMT
#313
Incredible.
Junkka you're a legend
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
November 13 2010 22:10 GMT
#314
I almost teared listening to that ;-;
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
November 13 2010 22:13 GMT
#315
From Reddit

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Dubz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States242 Posts
November 13 2010 22:13 GMT
#316
as he said "if NesTea listened to all those critics he wouldn't be standing there with a trophy " i started to cry ;( it was really moving
" mefjupl: if this game was balanced and we would find two players with almost same skills, in mirror match there would be a draw each game"
Retsukage
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1002 Posts
November 13 2010 22:18 GMT
#317
On November 14 2010 07:13 Fa1nT wrote:
From Reddit

[image loading]

this is boss, not going to lie, I teared up a little at the speech lol
To change is to improve, to change often is to be perfect - Winston Chruchill
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
November 13 2010 22:29 GMT
#318
On November 14 2010 07:13 Fa1nT wrote:
From Reddit

[image loading]


This just became my new background :D awesome
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qwaykee
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway266 Posts
November 13 2010 22:36 GMT
#319
it was good, but not that good
Shirolol
Profile Joined April 2010
England504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 22:43:53
November 13 2010 22:43 GMT
#320
That was a touching speech backed up by a lot of truth, and now he gets even MORE fanart devoted to him!

Totally took me by surprise, I don't think anyone expected anything like that - but it was perfect.

On November 14 2010 07:36 qwaykee wrote:
it was good, but not that good


When you grow up a bit, you might understand.
Korean Netizen wrote: My ears died from the static and the music and my eyes died from the depressing gameplay and bad observer.
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