EPT[Spoilers] Junkka's Epic Speech - Page 16
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
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zyzski
United States698 Posts
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
Thanks to the guy for the youtube link, was awesome. | ||
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shaunnn
Ireland1230 Posts
On November 14 2010 05:47 udgnim wrote: I added music to his speech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSZWSG2eH3M No offense but thats a horrible choice of music, should have used | ||
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Shaok
297 Posts
On November 14 2010 04:29 Confuse wrote: ... i don't know if you're trolling or not :/ playing to train competitively is quite different from casually gaming for 10-15 hours if you have "nothing to do". ... Its a clear trolling attempt man, I don't know how anyone can think that... rofl | ||
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ironchef
Canada1350 Posts
I always liked Jon, but as he was starting it, I was getting ready to roll my eyes thinking "Oh great, a cheesy follow your dreams bit." To my surprise... I can't explain, but that was so well thought out and sincere it was a really epic way to close the broadcast, esp to us not as familiar or emotionally invested in Nestea personally. Even reading the transcript doesnt do it justice, something about hearing it in Jon's gentle voice and flawed English -- being economical with the words, but able to express such deep sentiments completely. | ||
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Fumi
529 Posts
On November 14 2010 04:24 Alpina wrote: Well I disagree about such thing that Nestea had great courage or something like that. It does not require much will to play video games, and everyone who loves SC2 could play it for hours and hours, but the problem is the most people does not have time for that, and there is more important things in life. It's not like you were learning math 20 hours a day to get a diploma in the university or training whole day in the gym to break record or something. It's just a video game and playing it a lot does not require much will or "courage" for most of us. It's not having the courage to sit and play a game, it's having courage to try his life at progaming, have a lackluster career for 10 years, but still persevere. His friends and family probably tried to discourage him for years, but he kept it in his heart and he's now like 29 and finally winning a tourney. He had the courage to pursue such dream, that's all. | ||
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
On November 14 2010 04:31 FrostOtter wrote: No they don't. Those positions are just as culturally constructed as "progaming," they are just accepted by the national/international community as being essentially. If all the lawyers, CEOs, and other office jobs disappeared tonight, humanity would continue on as it has for thousands of years. The fact is that many people don't seem to realize that the professions we hold in esteem today were considered trash in the past (see lawyers, actors, etc.). 90 percent of the jobs today (especially in America, the land where nothing is manufactured anymore) are as artificial and unessential as anything creative or resulting from the advanced technology and standards of living we have today. The stock market, for instance, is an entire industry (encompassing the other industries) based on trading imaginary bits of paper that are worth an amount of other imaginary bits of paper that have value because people have decided that they have value; despite the apparent wealth and glamor of the successful stock traders/hedge fund people/ etc., they useless, except in the way that we have given them use through rationalizing their existence. So let's just rationalize progaming as being useful. you're a fucking idiot aren't you? my dad is a lawyer and the reason he became one was because in his best friend was framed for 2nd degree assault he never committed. In fact he was with my dad at the time but somehow the system found the evidence insubstantial and he couldn't afford a lawyer. He served 7 years. Go take a look in the mirror before you start calling people trash. | ||
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Sinborn
United States275 Posts
On November 14 2010 03:45 bulgom wrote: I wouldn't go as far as him using it to measure his success. I think it was more like, "Hey, you told me I was wasting my time doing what I love, but now look at me. People appreciate what I'm doing, and someone even liked it enough to draw FANART of me." Honestly, when does anyone draw fanart of a person? It's not something you see every day. I know what he's trying to say and I agree with him, but on its face, it's a weird and awkward means of establishing a conclusion. It interrupted the flow of the speech for me, basically. If he would have piece-by-piece'd the reasoning of why the fanart is a key distinction, I'd be more at ease. Strategically, I found the fan-art example to be the hardest element to translate to a contrary mindset overall and it caused me to pause and remind myself that realistically, SC2 is fundamentally about fun, passion and self-expression, one of which is art. God, some of those signs have baller drawings. John is no exception. We're in a crowd on the internet, we can, theoretically, draw better signs with more direct exposure to the intended recipient. Basically, fanart isn't common in applications of people because of a lot of uncontrollable factors. You have to be in an occupation that has a reasonable amount of visibility, have competent artists with time, your occupation is linked to entertainment, and so on. Given the nature of the job market overall, you don't have a lot of these kinds of jobs with that kind of audience. I would venture to conclude that while John's fanart is god-tier and was drawn from love, it's exceedingly difficult to get other people to draw, no pun intended, the same amount of worth due to being rare out of circumstance or career choice. I'm really talking about the moment, of course. Now, I can extrapolate a billion positive things that are implied and reinforced by context. Still, I can't shake this feeling that although this speech is about community, I still prefer to call this speech John's victory speech. In a weird paradox, by him reaching out to us, he glorifies himself in the most positive and flawless manner possible. | ||
Kinky
United States4126 Posts
Yes!!! Thanks for the link  | ||
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mofoo
Sweden96 Posts
Oh man... It was even more awesome the second time and I'm totally joining his fan club :D He had perfect timing on the speech aswell! Nothing important was happening during the speech. And another thing, the commentators (BOTH) kind of lost it after that speech. I totally understand that. That "wow" in the end kind of explains it all :D EPIC! EPIC! EPIC! | ||
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Junkka you're a legend | ||
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Kinky
United States4126 Posts
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/447/junkkawpx.png) | ||
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Dubz
United States242 Posts
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Retsukage
United States1002 Posts
On November 14 2010 07:13 Fa1nT wrote: From Reddit this is boss, not going to lie, I teared up a little at the speech lol | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On November 14 2010 07:13 Fa1nT wrote: From Reddit This just became my new background :D awesome | ||
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qwaykee
Norway266 Posts
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Shirolol
England504 Posts
Totally took me by surprise, I don't think anyone expected anything like that - but it was perfect. On November 14 2010 07:36 qwaykee wrote: it was good, but not that good When you grow up a bit, you might understand. | ||
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