TLO Switches to Zerg - Page 27

On October 25 2010 09:11 ohN wrote:

Well said, I agree.
T is definitely not weak at the moment and those saying it is need to realize maybe they're just not good.

On October 25 2010 10:25 Oddysay wrote:
terran are by far the worst race curently at the higher level , that not because they are bad , but protoss and zerg pretty much figured out how good terran play and what they will do + what they can do + the heavy nerfing since many many patch make the terran the bully race .

for exemple in t v z , you can open 1 suply 1 baract ( something else ? lol ? ) , the zerg fast exp , pretty much nothing the terran can do here , the zerg make 2 queen , make some zergling vs the lone reaper if the terran try that
and good zerg will got speed ling in time and just kill them , and the reaper speed require factory now aka reaper are are now useless and im not sure why they are still a unit in the game .

but anyway let go back to the matchup , after open 1 baract the terran will wall off with one factory and make one hellion ( or 2 hellion , we switch add on , this look gosu , why not ?! )

vs the hellion the zerg will make 3-5 roach , completly counter the hellion and go back macro queen inject mode while mining for 2 mineral base while the terran still on one .

here the terran cant do anything , the zerg can try timing push roach , if the terran try any push baneling are here .

so curently terran we go 1 fast thor because that the only thing we can do and who can counter timing roach push or baneling + ling .

pretty much no one attack here , the terran will take the exp when he got the one thor out with some hellion and some marine , medivak will be soon out .

let stop and look at the zerg , he now on mass drone mode and got one realy strong economy .

he make many zergling with baneling and or roach , he take third exp and infestor will be out soon .

the terran scans , see the third exp and use the only timing push he can do in the whole game , (here we send 8-10 scv for repair thor , this look gosu and that seriously strong , i should not say that because people will start notice and thor will be the next to be nerfed , but im tired of the esport manner lying mode....i want one serious RTS like starcraft 1 where the game require real skill )

go back to the push : big army vs army clash , pretty much the winner here come out

1- terran do 100 % dmg = he win right here ,
2- terran and zerg do 50 % dmg aka both army almost die= the zerg got advantage
3- terran do 0 % , the push fail = he has loss the game

( this part require good micro skill from both zerg and terran usualy so that not unfair )

but why in number 2 zerg got advantage ? that because of queen inject and the better macro system they give , the zerg can remake one army the fastest in the game , while protoss and terran take more time .

( here we add dropship thor drop harass or marine drop , or both , some time this make the terran come back in the game... but good zerg realy know that coming , what else they can do anyway they think in smilling ?! )

the next push the terran try the zerg now got infestor and with some good use completly destroy the terran army .

in the metagame now people say : OMG this zerg used some crazy micro skill so that the reason he win this fight ,he played well , while this noob terran deserve to be killed for just trying to abuse the terran race .

when the terran win any fight i have say before , zerg will cry IMBALANCE , NERF TERRAN
( using cap make it cooler , right ?! anyway we all love to get one bully no ? so we picked terran )


now the terran players play t v z and see all that and think... OMG , they can do that and win tournament and money ?! ,
i can too ! okay time to play zerg too .

but the new zerg user got one pretty much hard matchup too , z v p , at high level that pretty hard .

warning : this reply come from after loss over many many many pratice game since the last patch vs good zerg and im curently angry and drunk
i probably dont think what i have write and im sorry in advance .

( btw that not zerg players fault either the game like that , everyone do the best they can with what they got , dont hate people for using abusive strategie , good players play for money and will use any mean possible to win, that and what blizzard feal like to nerf or buff from listening to the more vocal fansbase race .



the bully aka one noob terran .

On October 25 2010 10:16 canikizu wrote:

Isn't it common wisdom that "It's designed that T has to stop Z to get base ahead?" If the T can't stop it, he's already losing.

On October 25 2010 10:25 Oddysay wrote:
terran are by far the worst race curently at the higher level , that not because they are bad , but protoss and zerg pretty much figured out how good terran play and what they will do + what they can do + the heavy nerfing since many many patch make the terran the bully race .

for exemple in t v z , you can open 1 suply 1 baract ( something else ? lol ? ) , the zerg fast exp , pretty much nothing the terran can do here

On October 25 2010 10:47 hdkhang wrote:


Then what is to stop the T from also taking another base so as to equalise?

Did you not see HopeTorture FE hold off Protoss super aggressive 4 gate push?

In any case, this thread is about TLO switching his main race, so in that sense, best of luck to him.

On October 25 2010 10:41 ckw wrote:


Did you like it when Zerg was obviously UP in the early game, and when ever a Zerg commented on it they would get told that it's because they suck? You'r statement is very ignorant as most of the imbalanced feelings Terrans get are from late game with higher level players, not noobs... Thats the entire point, and even high level Zergs admitted a long time ago that all they need to do is survive the early harass and then everything swings in their favor. Now you have a Zerg that doesn't have to worry about much harass and can dominate all game long. The only games I win against Zerg are with thor timing pushes and I am a macro player, I hate knowing that I need to win the game early or not at all.

On October 25 2010 10:53 Fantistic wrote:


Stopped reading here.
Clearly, you've never tried the Reaper/Marine bunker rush.

On October 25 2010 09:04 cuppatea wrote:
The game was being dominated by Terran to an absurd extent. There have been nearly 100 tournament wins by Terran players since the game was released and around 10 for Zerg. It had become the norm to see 5 or 6 Terran in the top 8 of nearly every tournament, while seeing more than 1 Zerg at that stage was a rarity. The game was in dire need of patching.

A lot of Terrans won't do as well in 1.12 as they did previously, but the truth is they should have never been enjoying such great success in the first place. Morrow, who by his own admission wasn't practicing a lot, should never have been outperforming Dimaga by such a huge margin. Silver should never have been 2-0'ing Idra. Players like Check, Zenio, Darkforce, Slush etc should never have been getting stomped every time they came up against a top Terran in their region.

Have Terran been nerfed too hard? It's too early to say. We've seen 4 high level LAN tournaments since 1.12 was released (MLG DC and Blizzcon in the US and both DSRack tournaments in Europe) and there was a Terran in the final of all of them. Maybe they'll be shown to be underpowered in the coming weeks but there's absolutely nothing to back those claims up right now.

On October 25 2010 10:16 canikizu wrote:

Isn't it common wisdom that "It's designed that T has to stop Z to get base ahead?" If the T can't stop it, he's already losing.

On October 25 2010 11:05 TheDna wrote:
Its funny how many terrans are whining right now. I saw that one coming alot of pretty bad players were doing good in tournaments and ladder when terran was super obviously too strong. Now that they are on par or maybe only a little bit too good alot of players will wake up and think something is wrong :p

On October 25 2010 11:11 On_Slaught wrote:


A fast reaper can still punish a pure FE from zerg. Dunno why people think reapers are useless. There have been plenty of games since the patch where reaper have been effective at either destroying a FE or forcing so many units they lose any eco adv, letting a terran expo off a bunker.

I honestly feel terran will be fine once they adjust. I think this is one of those patches where we will see multiple meta-shifts without a single patch change and independent of maps.

On October 25 2010 11:21 TheDna wrote:
You can twist and turn my words as you want but it doesn't change what i wrote ^^
I saw a lot of terrans doing a lot of mistakes and still ending up winning most of the games.. Now it's still sometimes like that. But not as obvious anymore. I never said every T is a noob or anything like that..