
A Glimpse into SC2 Progaming - Page 10
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Shuray
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Champ24
177 Posts
On October 20 2010 18:34 Hot_Bid wrote: Everyone who accomplished something great or had a lot of fun took a risk somewhere along the line. Sure, maybe a few progamers made a mistake in picking progaming. Maybe a cubicle desk job is the best they could do. But you can't walk a "safe" career path and accomplish truly great things. Did you really go through your twenties thinking "wow what will my future wife think" and "how does this affect my future kids"? At some point in your life you need adventure and for these guys it's progaming. I hate to keep piling on you because everyone already is replying and criticizing your post, but Day9 is the absolute worst example of "missing out on life" ever. The guy lives the dream. He gets flown to every major Starcraft 2 event every other week. 15,000 people watch him talk, and millions would trade places with him in an instant. He spends the majority of his time doing what he loves. He's a huge celebrity as long as Starcraft lives, and this game will live for decades (if you count the expansions and SC3 behind it). He can probably drop out of school and make a living casting right now but instead finishes his super hard math program at a good university. If anyone is set up to succeed through the esports industry, it's Day. There's nothing more stable than being the #1 in-demand caster. It's not like his casting performance will disappear or drop away, it will only gain strength and experience with time. Every single time he's flown out to IEM or MLG or Blizzcon his resume is buffed and he becomes even more indispensable for the next event. I'm willing to bet he could cast until age 50 if he wanted, and teach casting all that time as well. It's ridiculous that you chose probably the most successful person in the SC2 esports industry right now (outside of Blizzard's CEO haha) as your example of "missing out on life." I was expecting to get criticized. I'm basically in the hornets nest of pro gaming asking why. Anyways, I rescinded my day9 analogy a few posts later once I learned of his masters program at USC. I'll own that mistake. He isn't a good example. If you want to do what you love, go for it. I'm certainly not the one to stop you. However, I revert to my NFL analogy; it may seem great, but it leads down a path that may be difficult to get out of. To another curious member, Tatum Bell was the Bronco player selling phones. A chilling related stat, 78% of all NFL player are bankrupt, divorced, or unemployed following their NFL stint. I get the feeling pro gaming falls into the same boat. You learn skills that are not valuable in life when your gaming career ends. But perhaps I'm wrong...it wont be the first time. I just don't get warm fuzzies when I see teens posting on here about wanting to pack their bags and move to Korea so they can get paid to play video games. If you truly want to, by all means, do it. You only live once. But there are always consequences for your actions, and some are more difficult to see than others. Id hate to see someones life ruined 10 years from now because they had delusions of grandeur about sc2 gaming. The OP exemplifies a bunch of buddies sitting around, drinking beer, playing video games into the wee hours of the night, and blowing tournament cash at restaurants following a victory. Can it happen? Certainly. But it's jut one angle of the big picture. I'm merely attempting to highlight a different side. But I must say I am slightly biased. I work as an engineer for a living, so not taking unnecessary risks has been pounded into my brain for years. | ||
DISHU
United Kingdom348 Posts
On October 20 2010 22:10 Champ24 wrote: I was expecting to get criticized. I'm basically in the hornets nest of pro gaming asking why. Anyways, I rescinded my day9 analogy a few posts later once I learned of his masters program at USC. I'll own that mistake. He isn't a good example. If you want to do what you love, go for it. I'm certainly not the one to stop you. However, I revert to my NFL analogy; it may seem great, but it leads down a path that may be difficult to get out of. To another curious member, Tatum Bell was the Bronco player selling phones. A chilling related stat, 78% of all NFL player are bankrupt, divorced, or unemployed following their NFL stint. I get the feeling pro gaming falls into the same boat. You learn skills that are not valuable in life when your gaming career ends. But perhaps I'm wrong...it wont be the first time. I just don't get warm fuzzies when I see teens posting on here about wanting to pack their bags and move to Korea so they can get paid to play video games. If you truly want to, by all means, do it. You only live once. But there are always consequences for your actions, and some are more difficult to see than others. Id hate to see someones life ruined 10 years from now because they had delusions of grandeur about sc2 gaming. The OP exemplifies a bunch of buddies sitting around, drinking beer, playing video games into the wee hours of the night, and blowing tournament cash at restaurants following a victory. Can it happen? Certainly. But it's jut one angle of the big picture. I'm merely attempting to highlight a different side. But I must say I am slightly biased. I work as an engineer for a living, so not taking unnecessary risks has been pounded into my brain for years. Champ I absolutely agree with what you’re saying and I would urge all the people that want to play sc2 for a living to make sure that they can transition out of it if it ever fails. However taking a gap year or two just before you enter university like you can do in the Uk and Europe to spend on progaming or whatever is the right way about it. Even Idra has good qualifications. However spending your life playing this game with no other experience to back you up is a really bad path to travel on and I think a lot of people realize this and therefore most of them are not in Korea .Life can be cold to the ones that are not prepared and I think most people realize this! | ||
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Canada43 Posts
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leandroqm
Netherlands874 Posts
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Blackhawk13
United States442 Posts
Also the skills aren't useless, you could become part of an organization somehow, a general manager, coach, assistant, etc. since you'll know the business well. Some also go on to become announcers or analysts too. This can (and does) translate to gaming too. | ||
Ronald_McD
Canada807 Posts
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
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United States12607 Posts
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United States200 Posts
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United States2018 Posts
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Costa Rica2390 Posts
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United States3407 Posts
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United States163 Posts
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On October 20 2010 22:10 Champ24 wrote: I was expecting to get criticized. I'm basically in the hornets nest of pro gaming asking why. Anyways, I rescinded my day9 analogy a few posts later once I learned of his masters program at USC. I'll own that mistake. He isn't a good example. If you want to do what you love, go for it. I'm certainly not the one to stop you. However, I revert to my NFL analogy; it may seem great, but it leads down a path that may be difficult to get out of. To another curious member, Tatum Bell was the Bronco player selling phones. A chilling related stat, 78% of all NFL player are bankrupt, divorced, or unemployed following their NFL stint. I get the feeling pro gaming falls into the same boat. You learn skills that are not valuable in life when your gaming career ends. But perhaps I'm wrong...it wont be the first time. I just don't get warm fuzzies when I see teens posting on here about wanting to pack their bags and move to Korea so they can get paid to play video games. If you truly want to, by all means, do it. You only live once. But there are always consequences for your actions, and some are more difficult to see than others. Id hate to see someones life ruined 10 years from now because they had delusions of grandeur about sc2 gaming. The OP exemplifies a bunch of buddies sitting around, drinking beer, playing video games into the wee hours of the night, and blowing tournament cash at restaurants following a victory. Can it happen? Certainly. But it's jut one angle of the big picture. I'm merely attempting to highlight a different side. But I must say I am slightly biased. I work as an engineer for a living, so not taking unnecessary risks has been pounded into my brain for years. Day is one of the smartest persons you might find online ;( To play football you just need to ge fat (defense) or fast, you dont need 16 smartasses to be successfull in this game... For SC everyone must be smart, fast thinking and good in math. If you aren´t good enough you gonna find out latest after one year, and what is one year in your life :D. Or you do it like Dan, play poker, you can play it when you are 60 ![]() ![]() | ||
TymerA
Netherlands759 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
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iD.NicKy
France767 Posts
I want to go back to korea, that was so much fun time. Get Bertrand back into the business too GOGOG! Maxime | ||
TuElite
Canada2123 Posts
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osten
Sweden316 Posts
On topic of the guy saying being a progamer is nothing for the future that's wrong, we are a different generation and people don't "grow up" to become the old timers that live today and act as rulers of the corporate world. It will probably be understood in a while that having these skills is really good for loads of other things. Thinking fast is absolutely useful. Developing dynamic strategies on the fly is useful. | ||
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