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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
October 19 2010 15:36 GMT
#141
Day9 has a bachelors from HMC for math, and is getting/got his masters at USC. I think he'll be okay.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
October 19 2010 15:37 GMT
#142
On October 18 2010 09:03 intrigue wrote:
opened this thread with dread, hoping it wasn't about training house horror stories and why sc2 is doomed. i'm really glad what i read matched what i imagined it was like.


i'll sign that.

I was thinking "gom about to drop sc2 " or something similar.
I am not good with quotes
Champ24
Profile Joined August 2010
177 Posts
October 19 2010 15:42 GMT
#143
On October 20 2010 00:36 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Day9 has a bachelors from HMC for math, and is getting/got his masters at USC. I think he'll be okay.


I stand corrected. If he has a viable transition then he's not the best example. But my point overall remains.
cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
October 19 2010 16:12 GMT
#144
On October 20 2010 00:28 Champ24 wrote:
Sounds like a fun night and all, but I'm curious as to why people choose this as a profession?

I realize this can be interpreted as a troll post, but I am genuinely curious...so I'll try to be as PC as possible because it is not my intent. I have been wondering this for some time.

I relate the decision most similarly to that of an aspiring professional football player. If you take a look at my name, champ24, you may realize I am an avid football fan. Champ Bailey is my favorite player, even though he is past his prime. However, the situation applies to him as well. What do you do after your short career is done? Most professional NFL athletes last 2-3 years in the NFL before they are done. They have then blown their college experience by taking the easiest major possible, and have no real life experience beyond football...which is pointless in 99.99% of professions.

A Denver Bronco, yes, my team even though they suck, was cut from the team a few years ago. The broncos ran into RB injury problems, so they called the dude back to start in the middle of the season. The guy was selling cell phones at the mall. WTF? He probably made a killing for 3 years or so, but now makes minimum wage pitching Sprint contracts to customers. How could you not think about the transition after your career is over?

The same applies to progaming. You have a short career span of playing video games, screwing hot chicks, going to the bars with your buddies for a few years, and then what? It's not like putting "I'm an expert at the 15 nexus FE" or the "polt timing attack" on your resume is going to land you a dream job that can support a family. It may sound down the road kiddos, but odds are you will have a ball and chain. And she's likely not goin to enjoy you throwing down hours upon hours of gaming every day. My video games turn off when the better half gets home from work, even though I love them. The gaming days are over when I have little munchkins running around.

But that aside, the best example I can think of is mr. Day9 himself. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy. If I saw him in the bar the drinks would be on me the whole night. He's hilarious. But I shiver every time he mentions that he made his rent for the month, and how he spends 6 hours a day reviewing funday monday videos. I get the feeling he is a crazy smart guy, but I get the impression he is missing out on life. I'm sure his gaming experience was fun and all, but would a different path have been better?

Like I said, I'm a fan of football but I think choosing it as a career is a terrible idea. I apply the same philosophy to that of pro-gaming. It may sound like this epic ride for a few years, but life is a lot longer than that. And looking at the general consensus of this thread, most people are jealous of it. I don't see it...so why?

TLDR-why do you want to be a pro gamer, and what do you plan to do after the gig is up?


And what do you propose ? Getting the job earning the most possible, therefore dedicating your life to it and not experiencing all the things you would have loved to live ? Some people are fine with this and love living this way, but that's also not the case for a lot of people,

I'm not sure if you ask this question from a general point of view, but if people choose this profession that's because that's what they want to do lol, and what makes them happy, which is I should remind you, the most important thing, earning money from your passion is priceless, even if it means you won't have the same income you'dd have by studying/working by today's standards.

You're supposed to work to live, not the contrary.
Twitter : http://twitter.com/CARNDARAK
DeckOneBell
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 16:41:30
October 19 2010 16:39 GMT
#145
On October 20 2010 01:12 cArn- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 00:28 Champ24 wrote:
Sounds like a fun night and all, but I'm curious as to why people choose this as a profession?

I realize this can be interpreted as a troll post, but I am genuinely curious...so I'll try to be as PC as possible because it is not my intent. I have been wondering this for some time.

I relate the decision most similarly to that of an aspiring professional football player. If you take a look at my name, champ24, you may realize I am an avid football fan. Champ Bailey is my favorite player, even though he is past his prime. However, the situation applies to him as well. What do you do after your short career is done? Most professional NFL athletes last 2-3 years in the NFL before they are done. They have then blown their college experience by taking the easiest major possible, and have no real life experience beyond football...which is pointless in 99.99% of professions.

A Denver Bronco, yes, my team even though they suck, was cut from the team a few years ago. The broncos ran into RB injury problems, so they called the dude back to start in the middle of the season. The guy was selling cell phones at the mall. WTF? He probably made a killing for 3 years or so, but now makes minimum wage pitching Sprint contracts to customers. How could you not think about the transition after your career is over?

The same applies to progaming. You have a short career span of playing video games, screwing hot chicks, going to the bars with your buddies for a few years, and then what? It's not like putting "I'm an expert at the 15 nexus FE" or the "polt timing attack" on your resume is going to land you a dream job that can support a family. It may sound down the road kiddos, but odds are you will have a ball and chain. And she's likely not goin to enjoy you throwing down hours upon hours of gaming every day. My video games turn off when the better half gets home from work, even though I love them. The gaming days are over when I have little munchkins running around.

But that aside, the best example I can think of is mr. Day9 himself. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy. If I saw him in the bar the drinks would be on me the whole night. He's hilarious. But I shiver every time he mentions that he made his rent for the month, and how he spends 6 hours a day reviewing funday monday videos. I get the feeling he is a crazy smart guy, but I get the impression he is missing out on life. I'm sure his gaming experience was fun and all, but would a different path have been better?

Like I said, I'm a fan of football but I think choosing it as a career is a terrible idea. I apply the same philosophy to that of pro-gaming. It may sound like this epic ride for a few years, but life is a lot longer than that. And looking at the general consensus of this thread, most people are jealous of it. I don't see it...so why?

TLDR-why do you want to be a pro gamer, and what do you plan to do after the gig is up?


And what do you propose ? Getting the job earning the most possible, therefore dedicating your life to it and not experiencing all the things you would have loved to live ? Some people are fine with this and love living this way, but that's also not the case for a lot of people,

I'm not sure if you ask this question from a general point of view, but if people choose this profession that's because that's what they want to do lol, and what makes them happy, which is I should remind you, the most important thing, earning money from your passion is priceless, even if it means you won't have the same income you'dd have by studying/working by today's standards.

You're supposed to work to live, not the contrary.


Well, if you're Rekrul, you become a professional poker player and make shit tons of cash.

There's a reason the progamers are admired: it's because they're able to dedicate themselves to a game without the expectation of any real reward (other than, maybe, being able to make a living off of it, very few get rich off of it) because they love the game and competition so much.

And uh, most progamers don't get to go to bars and screw chicks too often.

It's the same reason musicians practice 8+ hours a day. Not for any major payoff (if you're being realistic, very few musicians get rich or famous, though many do make a decent living), but because they love it. The same amount of energy expended elsewhere might earn them more money, but they have no desire to focus their efforts on anything else.

EDIT: Oh, and oops, I agree with this carn fellow.

DOUBLE EDIT: Have you seen Day9 Daily #100? It explains pretty well why some people dedicate their lives to gaming. Gaming's more than just the game itself, it's also everyone involved.
eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
October 19 2010 16:41 GMT
#146
On October 19 2010 23:19 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Rekrul you need to write an autobiography lol, your storytelling is fucking amazing.

Another fucking baller read, i'd give it 5 stars if it were in blogs but this is beyond a blog for sure.


He basically has, look him up on the SCBW liquipedia and it has a very long GREAT read covering from when it was a dream of his in high school till about a year and a half ago.

I just got done reading it, it's an amazingly interesting and well written bio.
http://www.starcraftdream.com
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
October 19 2010 16:47 GMT
#147
As always, rekrul delivers
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 19 2010 16:54 GMT
#148
Or go to liquidpoker and he's still got his blog on the front page
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
October 19 2010 16:55 GMT
#149
Rekrul to oGs-TL That team will be a god lineup if you start playing again dan
...I guess they could add boxer too.
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
MinoMino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1103 Posts
October 19 2010 16:59 GMT
#150
Oh wow, great read. I got to say, the oGs-TL house and environment sounds really nice. Good to hear you want back in. Good luck.
Blah.
PetitCrabe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada410 Posts
October 19 2010 17:21 GMT
#151
I'm sorry to sound ignorant, but could someone please tell me in what circumstances this even happened? what tournament is this? is this a new team league? help please I'm very confused cause I thought at first he was talking about GSL1....
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
October 19 2010 18:13 GMT
#152
super blog
i'm gonna finish this wonderful glass of aberlour now.

cheers alcoholic pgm
twitter@RickyMarou
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
October 19 2010 18:17 GMT
#153
excellent read Rek, keep us posted on your future in progaming!
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
October 19 2010 18:27 GMT
#154
On October 20 2010 00:28 Champ24 wrote:
Sounds like a fun night and all, but I'm curious as to why people choose this as a profession?

I realize this can be interpreted as a troll post, but I am genuinely curious...so I'll try to be as PC as possible because it is not my intent. I have been wondering this for some time.

I relate the decision most similarly to that of an aspiring professional football player. If you take a look at my name, champ24, you may realize I am an avid football fan. Champ Bailey is my favorite player, even though he is past his prime. However, the situation applies to him as well. What do you do after your short career is done? Most professional NFL athletes last 2-3 years in the NFL before they are done. They have then blown their college experience by taking the easiest major possible, and have no real life experience beyond football...which is pointless in 99.99% of professions.

A Denver Bronco, yes, my team even though they suck, was cut from the team a few years ago. The broncos ran into RB injury problems, so they called the dude back to start in the middle of the season. The guy was selling cell phones at the mall. WTF? He probably made a killing for 3 years or so, but now makes minimum wage pitching Sprint contracts to customers. How could you not think about the transition after your career is over?

The same applies to progaming. You have a short career span of playing video games, screwing hot chicks, going to the bars with your buddies for a few years, and then what? It's not like putting "I'm an expert at the 15 nexus FE" or the "polt timing attack" on your resume is going to land you a dream job that can support a family. It may sound down the road kiddos, but odds are you will have a ball and chain. And she's likely not goin to enjoy you throwing down hours upon hours of gaming every day. My video games turn off when the better half gets home from work, even though I love them. The gaming days are over when I have little munchkins running around.

But that aside, the best example I can think of is mr. Day9 himself. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy. If I saw him in the bar the drinks would be on me the whole night. He's hilarious. But I shiver every time he mentions that he made his rent for the month, and how he spends 6 hours a day reviewing funday monday videos. I get the feeling he is a crazy smart guy, but I get the impression he is missing out on life. I'm sure his gaming experience was fun and all, but would a different path have been better?

Like I said, I'm a fan of football but I think choosing it as a career is a terrible idea. I apply the same philosophy to that of pro-gaming. It may sound like this epic ride for a few years, but life is a lot longer than that. And looking at the general consensus of this thread, most people are jealous of it. I don't see it...so why?

TLDR-why do you want to be a pro gamer, and what do you plan to do after the gig is up?



It's really simple, people choose that lifestyle because they want to. You seem like the kind of person that feels obligated to follow the societal standards; build your career, get married, have kids ... die. And maybe that's exactly what you wanted to do with your life.

It's just sad to me that there are so many people that don't do what they want with their life because they are trying to fulfill some perceived purpose in life. They spend their youth learning their asses off so they can work 9 to 5 shifts for the rest of their lifes climbing the ceremonial ladder and accumulating money that they'll invest in botoxing their face when they're old, retired and unable to do the things they wanted to do in the first place.

These progamers have the balls to do what they wanted with their life instead of becoming a lawyer like dad wanted. They'll probably have good memories of these days for the rest of their lives while the guys working "an honest job" are busy working towards some future happiness (which may or may not come).

In short, life is fucking short ... you can't worry all the time about what other people think. There's no such thing as good or right things to do with your life and no-one's going to get punished or rewarded after they die. People should stop thinking that what 99% of the other people are doing must be the "good way".
I think esports is pretty nice.
Gruntt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States175 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 18:49:09
October 19 2010 18:48 GMT
#155
{88}lurker /cheer

lurker vs 4aiur~stings? or E}{iler~Guns!
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
October 19 2010 19:07 GMT
#156
Rekrul oldboy go!!!

Nice read!!!
Reptarem
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
155 Posts
October 19 2010 19:15 GMT
#157
On October 20 2010 03:27 Saechiis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 00:28 Champ24 wrote:
Sounds like a fun night and all, but I'm curious as to why people choose this as a profession?

I realize this can be interpreted as a troll post, but I am genuinely curious...so I'll try to be as PC as possible because it is not my intent. I have been wondering this for some time.

I relate the decision most similarly to that of an aspiring professional football player. If you take a look at my name, champ24, you may realize I am an avid football fan. Champ Bailey is my favorite player, even though he is past his prime. However, the situation applies to him as well. What do you do after your short career is done? Most professional NFL athletes last 2-3 years in the NFL before they are done. They have then blown their college experience by taking the easiest major possible, and have no real life experience beyond football...which is pointless in 99.99% of professions.

A Denver Bronco, yes, my team even though they suck, was cut from the team a few years ago. The broncos ran into RB injury problems, so they called the dude back to start in the middle of the season. The guy was selling cell phones at the mall. WTF? He probably made a killing for 3 years or so, but now makes minimum wage pitching Sprint contracts to customers. How could you not think about the transition after your career is over?

The same applies to progaming. You have a short career span of playing video games, screwing hot chicks, going to the bars with your buddies for a few years, and then what? It's not like putting "I'm an expert at the 15 nexus FE" or the "polt timing attack" on your resume is going to land you a dream job that can support a family. It may sound down the road kiddos, but odds are you will have a ball and chain. And she's likely not goin to enjoy you throwing down hours upon hours of gaming every day. My video games turn off when the better half gets home from work, even though I love them. The gaming days are over when I have little munchkins running around.

But that aside, the best example I can think of is mr. Day9 himself. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy. If I saw him in the bar the drinks would be on me the whole night. He's hilarious. But I shiver every time he mentions that he made his rent for the month, and how he spends 6 hours a day reviewing funday monday videos. I get the feeling he is a crazy smart guy, but I get the impression he is missing out on life. I'm sure his gaming experience was fun and all, but would a different path have been better?

Like I said, I'm a fan of football but I think choosing it as a career is a terrible idea. I apply the same philosophy to that of pro-gaming. It may sound like this epic ride for a few years, but life is a lot longer than that. And looking at the general consensus of this thread, most people are jealous of it. I don't see it...so why?

TLDR-why do you want to be a pro gamer, and what do you plan to do after the gig is up?



It's really simple, people choose that lifestyle because they want to. You seem like the kind of person that feels obligated to follow the societal standards; build your career, get married, have kids ... die. And maybe that's exactly what you wanted to do with your life.

It's just sad to me that there are so many people that don't do what they want with their life because they are trying to fulfill some perceived purpose in life. They spend their youth learning their asses off so they can work 9 to 5 shifts for the rest of their lifes climbing the ceremonial ladder and accumulating money that they'll invest in botoxing their face when they're old, retired and unable to do the things they wanted to do in the first place.

These progamers have the balls to do what they wanted with their life instead of becoming a lawyer like dad wanted. They'll probably have good memories of these days for the rest of their lives while the guys working "an honest job" are busy working towards some future happiness (which may or may not come).

In short, life is fucking short ... you can't worry all the time about what other people think. There's no such thing as good or right things to do with your life and no-one's going to get punished or rewarded after they die. People should stop thinking that what 99% of the other people are doing must be the "good way".


Great post.
CopperLeague
Profile Joined June 2010
154 Posts
October 19 2010 19:17 GMT
#158
On October 20 2010 03:27 Saechiis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 00:28 Champ24 wrote:
Sounds like a fun night and all, but I'm curious as to why people choose this as a profession?

I realize this can be interpreted as a troll post, but I am genuinely curious...so I'll try to be as PC as possible because it is not my intent. I have been wondering this for some time.

I relate the decision most similarly to that of an aspiring professional football player. If you take a look at my name, champ24, you may realize I am an avid football fan. Champ Bailey is my favorite player, even though he is past his prime. However, the situation applies to him as well. What do you do after your short career is done? Most professional NFL athletes last 2-3 years in the NFL before they are done. They have then blown their college experience by taking the easiest major possible, and have no real life experience beyond football...which is pointless in 99.99% of professions.

A Denver Bronco, yes, my team even though they suck, was cut from the team a few years ago. The broncos ran into RB injury problems, so they called the dude back to start in the middle of the season. The guy was selling cell phones at the mall. WTF? He probably made a killing for 3 years or so, but now makes minimum wage pitching Sprint contracts to customers. How could you not think about the transition after your career is over?

The same applies to progaming. You have a short career span of playing video games, screwing hot chicks, going to the bars with your buddies for a few years, and then what? It's not like putting "I'm an expert at the 15 nexus FE" or the "polt timing attack" on your resume is going to land you a dream job that can support a family. It may sound down the road kiddos, but odds are you will have a ball and chain. And she's likely not goin to enjoy you throwing down hours upon hours of gaming every day. My video games turn off when the better half gets home from work, even though I love them. The gaming days are over when I have little munchkins running around.

But that aside, the best example I can think of is mr. Day9 himself. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy. If I saw him in the bar the drinks would be on me the whole night. He's hilarious. But I shiver every time he mentions that he made his rent for the month, and how he spends 6 hours a day reviewing funday monday videos. I get the feeling he is a crazy smart guy, but I get the impression he is missing out on life. I'm sure his gaming experience was fun and all, but would a different path have been better?

Like I said, I'm a fan of football but I think choosing it as a career is a terrible idea. I apply the same philosophy to that of pro-gaming. It may sound like this epic ride for a few years, but life is a lot longer than that. And looking at the general consensus of this thread, most people are jealous of it. I don't see it...so why?

TLDR-why do you want to be a pro gamer, and what do you plan to do after the gig is up?



It's really simple, people choose that lifestyle because they want to. You seem like the kind of person that feels obligated to follow the societal standards; build your career, get married, have kids ... die. And maybe that's exactly what you wanted to do with your life.

It's just sad to me that there are so many people that don't do what they want with their life because they are trying to fulfill some perceived purpose in life. They spend their youth learning their asses off so they can work 9 to 5 shifts for the rest of their lifes climbing the ceremonial ladder and accumulating money that they'll invest in botoxing their face when they're old, retired and unable to do the things they wanted to do in the first place.

These progamers have the balls to do what they wanted with their life instead of becoming a lawyer like dad wanted. They'll probably have good memories of these days for the rest of their lives while the guys working "an honest job" are busy working towards some future happiness (which may or may not come).

In short, life is fucking short ... you can't worry all the time about what other people think. There's no such thing as good or right things to do with your life and no-one's going to get punished or rewarded after they die. People should stop thinking that what 99% of the other people are doing must be the "good way".


Pretty much exactly what I was going to say. Not a fan of the "back-up plan" idea. If you love something, do it.
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
October 19 2010 19:18 GMT
#159
On October 20 2010 00:28 Champ24 wrote:
Sounds like a fun night and all, but I'm curious as to why people choose this as a profession?

I realize this can be interpreted as a troll post, but I am genuinely curious...so I'll try to be as PC as possible because it is not my intent. I have been wondering this for some time.

I relate the decision most similarly to that of an aspiring professional football player. If you take a look at my name, champ24, you may realize I am an avid football fan. Champ Bailey is my favorite player, even though he is past his prime. However, the situation applies to him as well. What do you do after your short career is done? Most professional NFL athletes last 2-3 years in the NFL before they are done. They have then blown their college experience by taking the easiest major possible, and have no real life experience beyond football...which is pointless in 99.99% of professions.

A Denver Bronco, yes, my team even though they suck, was cut from the team a few years ago. The broncos ran into RB injury problems, so they called the dude back to start in the middle of the season. The guy was selling cell phones at the mall. WTF? He probably made a killing for 3 years or so, but now makes minimum wage pitching Sprint contracts to customers. How could you not think about the transition after your career is over?

The same applies to progaming. You have a short career span of playing video games, screwing hot chicks, going to the bars with your buddies for a few years, and then what? It's not like putting "I'm an expert at the 15 nexus FE" or the "polt timing attack" on your resume is going to land you a dream job that can support a family. It may sound down the road kiddos, but odds are you will have a ball and chain. And she's likely not goin to enjoy you throwing down hours upon hours of gaming every day. My video games turn off when the better half gets home from work, even though I love them. The gaming days are over when I have little munchkins running around.

But that aside, the best example I can think of is mr. Day9 himself. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy. If I saw him in the bar the drinks would be on me the whole night. He's hilarious. But I shiver every time he mentions that he made his rent for the month, and how he spends 6 hours a day reviewing funday monday videos. I get the feeling he is a crazy smart guy, but I get the impression he is missing out on life. I'm sure his gaming experience was fun and all, but would a different path have been better?

Like I said, I'm a fan of football but I think choosing it as a career is a terrible idea. I apply the same philosophy to that of pro-gaming. It may sound like this epic ride for a few years, but life is a lot longer than that. And looking at the general consensus of this thread, most people are jealous of it. I don't see it...so why?

TLDR-why do you want to be a pro gamer, and what do you plan to do after the gig is up?

what an utterly boring way to live life if you dont follow your dreams just because society doesn't reward you properly.
Conform or die huh?
Ohdamn
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Germany765 Posts
October 19 2010 19:22 GMT
#160
good read sir

would love to see such "blogs" from TLO/Jinro/Haypro
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