• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:31
CET 17:31
KST 01:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation13Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle What happened to TvZ on Retro? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2088 users

Patch 1.1.2 Notes - Page 59

Forum Index > SC2 General
1843 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 57 58 59 60 61 93 Next
SC2Jack
Profile Joined October 2010
Afghanistan10 Posts
October 14 2010 23:19 GMT
#1161
On October 15 2010 08:17 Burban wrote:
easier to control ?
tell me, which kind of noob attack-move his medvacs with his marines ?
oh right, some bronze league guy.


Not bronze league. Paper league terrans thinking a-moving their M&M&M balls straight to diamond league meant being skilled
ApBuLLet
Profile Joined September 2010
United States604 Posts
October 14 2010 23:20 GMT
#1162
On October 15 2010 08:10 Agh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 07:59 dbddbddb wrote:
Is it still possible for protoss to hide behind cannons without getting hit by roaches?



No, which is dumb. Roaches were the perfect unit and they gave the range with the intent to help against reapers, yet they also made reapers further obselete by putting factory for an upgrade requirement.



I don't think they did this only because of reapers. I think they are well aware of the fact that roaches couldn't hit cannons over a pylon wall. I'm sure you already know... but a lot of top Zerg players have been talking about how difficult (some say next to impossible although that is quite an overstatement) it is to come back when a protoss player walls you in with 2 pylons and a cannon behind it.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
October 14 2010 23:21 GMT
#1163
Also, people are really underestimating Reapers use late game.

You get a group of 5 or more, then when you go in for the attack, you send them around the map picking off undefended expos.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
mskaa
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark155 Posts
October 14 2010 23:22 GMT
#1164
Seem alright to me.. Only thing that actually is a bad idea is the factory rec for reaper speed? I mean, with 4 range roaches, gl kiting o.O
Will be exciting to see how big a role Thor's will play in TvP.. I think they are pretty damn strong, maybe along with marines or even more fun ghosts..
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
October 14 2010 23:22 GMT
#1165
On October 15 2010 07:36 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 06:54 pfods wrote:
thors buffed, corruptors nerfed. not too happy about this.

LOL really??? some people are so damn determined to hate on terran that they cant even see whats plainly in front of them.

thors and corruptors had pretty much the exact same change, except the Corruption cooldown is shorter...How in the hell does that make the Corruptors nerfed and Thors buffed? "But dude, Corruptors have a cooldown when they spawn and Thors dont!" You dont have to research corruption but you have to research 250mm cannons. Stop hating man, Zerg got buffed, Terran got nerfed.


the change to the thor makes them viable in a TvP match. Before Thors just get feedback to death. Seems like a buff to the thors to me.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
SC2Jack
Profile Joined October 2010
Afghanistan10 Posts
October 14 2010 23:22 GMT
#1166
Weren't roaches meant to counter zealots ?

You got speedlings to deal with reapers in case someone missed something...
Dinosaur
Profile Joined April 2008
Denmark112 Posts
October 14 2010 23:23 GMT
#1167
Private Hudson comments on the patch:

+ Show Spoiler +
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
October 14 2010 23:23 GMT
#1168
Prediction:

Some very notable terrans are gonna switch to zerg really soon, and the pro's who switch from bw/wc3 aint gonna be all terran like the majorety have been. Also LosirA was Zerg in GSL 1 right? Gotta suck for him to have changed to terran now
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
October 14 2010 23:24 GMT
#1169
Lol..the only thing Terran received was a tiny Thor buff, which will help in surviving carpet storming HTs, but medivac hit I think hurts quite a bit.
the farm ends here
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 23:30:18
October 14 2010 23:24 GMT
#1170
Hopefully the void ray change will make them less of a SURPRISE DEATH unit and more of a unit that can actually be incorporated into an army.

I am annoyed at the Thor buff and Ultra lack-of-buff

thors and corruptors had pretty much the exact same change, except the Corruption cooldown is shorter...How in the hell does that make the Corruptors nerfed and Thors buffed? "But dude, Corruptors have a cooldown when they spawn and Thors dont!" You dont have to research corruption but you have to research 250mm cannons. Stop hating man, Zerg got buffed, Terran got nerfed.


Nah, I would actually agree. If you have corruptors around you could often corrupt two things before running out of energy. Plus the uses were completely different. 250MM you actually should be specifically targeting things as opposed to corruption where you just spam it all over the place. I agree: Thor buff, Corruptor nerf.

Actually I think its a pretty major thor buff. Maybe 250mm will actually be used. But Corruptor nerf not a big deal.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
October 14 2010 23:25 GMT
#1171
On October 15 2010 08:22 SC2Jack wrote:
Weren't roaches meant to counter zealots ?

You got speedlings to deal with reapers in case someone missed something...

Problem is reapers reach a critical mass really fast, going pure speedling vs 5rax reaper prepatch wasn't really a 'counter', you could lose all your lings in a few seconds.
Possible, yeah. Counter? Nah.
Xandos
Profile Joined August 2010
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 23:25:39
October 14 2010 23:25 GMT
#1172
Good to see blizz heading in the right direction :D. ZvP will definitely be more challenging now with the roach range.
abrasion
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia722 Posts
October 14 2010 23:26 GMT
#1173
All I want now is concussive shell price increase and research duration to be higher. or a cooldown on concussive so it's not every shot (early game concusssive is a bastard against over 90% of Protoss ground forces)
derpmods
Sweetfrost
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden211 Posts
October 14 2010 23:27 GMT
#1174
Supply before rax? Silly.
Before practice, we ate Kimchi soup made my MMA. His cooking has made me so depressed that I think we may lose GSTL." -Miya
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 23:29:04
October 14 2010 23:28 GMT
#1175
On October 15 2010 08:24 DoubleReed wrote:
Hopefully the void ray change will make them less of a SURPRISE DEATH unit and more of a unit that can actually be incorporated into an army.

I am annoyed at the Thor buff and Ultra lack-of-buff


Thats what i hated about them. Was just a either you win or lose in the next 2 min unit. I did not like that at all. Its cool with the power up and all, and i think it would be better if they made it charge up faster, and maby give abit more range or somthing, but make it not charge up on your own units/buildings.
dolpiff
Profile Joined June 2010
France300 Posts
October 14 2010 23:29 GMT
#1176
MORE PVT IMBALANCE TY BLIZARD FOR removing ray option and giving Terrans YET another option to OWN HT

in be4 no protoss in gsl ro16

User was temp banned for this post.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
October 14 2010 23:30 GMT
#1177
Zerg player

I dislike the depot before rax change. Everything else is tits (although I don't know why voids were nerfed so hard - totally unnecessary.)

The one thing I'm missing is SCV repair priority during engagements. Simply can't believe this wasn't addressed.

Can't wait to play tonight!
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
October 14 2010 23:30 GMT
#1178
So void rays are basically maraudars without concussive shells or stim in the sky now?

I would like it if the charge would be on a cooldown and last 15 seconds instead...then they become useful. Sacrifice ur shields to charge up the rays...that would be nice.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
mrblue182
Profile Joined April 2010
United States151 Posts
October 14 2010 23:35 GMT
#1179
Roaches yay!
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 23:39:32
October 14 2010 23:35 GMT
#1180
toss was nerfed most..doubt you'll ever see toss win a big tourney.
MC for president
Prev 1 57 58 59 60 61 93 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 29m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 551
ProTech132
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 31157
Calm 5817
Horang2 1465
EffOrt 425
firebathero 359
Soma 330
Rush 143
Mind 85
Killer 41
Rock 35
[ Show more ]
scan(afreeca) 26
yabsab 16
ivOry 8
Hm[arnc] 8
Dota 2
Gorgc6614
qojqva3163
Dendi1122
XcaliburYe126
BananaSlamJamma42
League of Legends
Reynor190
Trikslyr38
Counter-Strike
oskar139
adren_tv30
Other Games
hiko720
Hui .333
crisheroes327
Lowko306
Fuzer 267
ceh9246
Sick201
TKL 193
Liquid`VortiX184
QueenE58
Happy17
Dewaltoss12
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream10991
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream2138
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 38
• Azhi_Dahaki16
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3066
• WagamamaTV402
League of Legends
• Nemesis5355
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
29m
Replay Cast
6h 29m
ChoboTeamLeague
8h 29m
WardiTV Korean Royale
19h 29m
BSL: GosuLeague
1d 4h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 8h
The PondCast
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Reynor
Maru vs SHIN
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
BSL: GosuLeague
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
IPSL
5 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
RSL Revival
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
IPSL
6 days
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-14
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.