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SC2Jack
Profile Joined October 2010
Afghanistan10 Posts
October 14 2010 23:19 GMT
#1161
On October 15 2010 08:17 Burban wrote:
easier to control ?
tell me, which kind of noob attack-move his medvacs with his marines ?
oh right, some bronze league guy.


Not bronze league. Paper league terrans thinking a-moving their M&M&M balls straight to diamond league meant being skilled
ApBuLLet
Profile Joined September 2010
United States604 Posts
October 14 2010 23:20 GMT
#1162
On October 15 2010 08:10 Agh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 07:59 dbddbddb wrote:
Is it still possible for protoss to hide behind cannons without getting hit by roaches?



No, which is dumb. Roaches were the perfect unit and they gave the range with the intent to help against reapers, yet they also made reapers further obselete by putting factory for an upgrade requirement.



I don't think they did this only because of reapers. I think they are well aware of the fact that roaches couldn't hit cannons over a pylon wall. I'm sure you already know... but a lot of top Zerg players have been talking about how difficult (some say next to impossible although that is quite an overstatement) it is to come back when a protoss player walls you in with 2 pylons and a cannon behind it.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
October 14 2010 23:21 GMT
#1163
Also, people are really underestimating Reapers use late game.

You get a group of 5 or more, then when you go in for the attack, you send them around the map picking off undefended expos.
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mskaa
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark155 Posts
October 14 2010 23:22 GMT
#1164
Seem alright to me.. Only thing that actually is a bad idea is the factory rec for reaper speed? I mean, with 4 range roaches, gl kiting o.O
Will be exciting to see how big a role Thor's will play in TvP.. I think they are pretty damn strong, maybe along with marines or even more fun ghosts..
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
October 14 2010 23:22 GMT
#1165
On October 15 2010 07:36 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 06:54 pfods wrote:
thors buffed, corruptors nerfed. not too happy about this.

LOL really??? some people are so damn determined to hate on terran that they cant even see whats plainly in front of them.

thors and corruptors had pretty much the exact same change, except the Corruption cooldown is shorter...How in the hell does that make the Corruptors nerfed and Thors buffed? "But dude, Corruptors have a cooldown when they spawn and Thors dont!" You dont have to research corruption but you have to research 250mm cannons. Stop hating man, Zerg got buffed, Terran got nerfed.


the change to the thor makes them viable in a TvP match. Before Thors just get feedback to death. Seems like a buff to the thors to me.
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SC2Jack
Profile Joined October 2010
Afghanistan10 Posts
October 14 2010 23:22 GMT
#1166
Weren't roaches meant to counter zealots ?

You got speedlings to deal with reapers in case someone missed something...
Dinosaur
Profile Joined April 2008
Denmark112 Posts
October 14 2010 23:23 GMT
#1167
Private Hudson comments on the patch:

+ Show Spoiler +
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
October 14 2010 23:23 GMT
#1168
Prediction:

Some very notable terrans are gonna switch to zerg really soon, and the pro's who switch from bw/wc3 aint gonna be all terran like the majorety have been. Also LosirA was Zerg in GSL 1 right? Gotta suck for him to have changed to terran now
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
October 14 2010 23:24 GMT
#1169
Lol..the only thing Terran received was a tiny Thor buff, which will help in surviving carpet storming HTs, but medivac hit I think hurts quite a bit.
the farm ends here
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 23:30:18
October 14 2010 23:24 GMT
#1170
Hopefully the void ray change will make them less of a SURPRISE DEATH unit and more of a unit that can actually be incorporated into an army.

I am annoyed at the Thor buff and Ultra lack-of-buff

thors and corruptors had pretty much the exact same change, except the Corruption cooldown is shorter...How in the hell does that make the Corruptors nerfed and Thors buffed? "But dude, Corruptors have a cooldown when they spawn and Thors dont!" You dont have to research corruption but you have to research 250mm cannons. Stop hating man, Zerg got buffed, Terran got nerfed.


Nah, I would actually agree. If you have corruptors around you could often corrupt two things before running out of energy. Plus the uses were completely different. 250MM you actually should be specifically targeting things as opposed to corruption where you just spam it all over the place. I agree: Thor buff, Corruptor nerf.

Actually I think its a pretty major thor buff. Maybe 250mm will actually be used. But Corruptor nerf not a big deal.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
October 14 2010 23:25 GMT
#1171
On October 15 2010 08:22 SC2Jack wrote:
Weren't roaches meant to counter zealots ?

You got speedlings to deal with reapers in case someone missed something...

Problem is reapers reach a critical mass really fast, going pure speedling vs 5rax reaper prepatch wasn't really a 'counter', you could lose all your lings in a few seconds.
Possible, yeah. Counter? Nah.
Xandos
Profile Joined August 2010
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 23:25:39
October 14 2010 23:25 GMT
#1172
Good to see blizz heading in the right direction :D. ZvP will definitely be more challenging now with the roach range.
abrasion
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia722 Posts
October 14 2010 23:26 GMT
#1173
All I want now is concussive shell price increase and research duration to be higher. or a cooldown on concussive so it's not every shot (early game concusssive is a bastard against over 90% of Protoss ground forces)
derpmods
Sweetfrost
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden213 Posts
October 14 2010 23:27 GMT
#1174
Supply before rax? Silly.
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Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 23:29:04
October 14 2010 23:28 GMT
#1175
On October 15 2010 08:24 DoubleReed wrote:
Hopefully the void ray change will make them less of a SURPRISE DEATH unit and more of a unit that can actually be incorporated into an army.

I am annoyed at the Thor buff and Ultra lack-of-buff


Thats what i hated about them. Was just a either you win or lose in the next 2 min unit. I did not like that at all. Its cool with the power up and all, and i think it would be better if they made it charge up faster, and maby give abit more range or somthing, but make it not charge up on your own units/buildings.
dolpiff
Profile Joined June 2010
France300 Posts
October 14 2010 23:29 GMT
#1176
MORE PVT IMBALANCE TY BLIZARD FOR removing ray option and giving Terrans YET another option to OWN HT

in be4 no protoss in gsl ro16

User was temp banned for this post.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
October 14 2010 23:30 GMT
#1177
Zerg player

I dislike the depot before rax change. Everything else is tits (although I don't know why voids were nerfed so hard - totally unnecessary.)

The one thing I'm missing is SCV repair priority during engagements. Simply can't believe this wasn't addressed.

Can't wait to play tonight!
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
October 14 2010 23:30 GMT
#1178
So void rays are basically maraudars without concussive shells or stim in the sky now?

I would like it if the charge would be on a cooldown and last 15 seconds instead...then they become useful. Sacrifice ur shields to charge up the rays...that would be nice.
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mrblue182
Profile Joined April 2010
United States151 Posts
October 14 2010 23:35 GMT
#1179
Roaches yay!
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 23:39:32
October 14 2010 23:35 GMT
#1180
toss was nerfed most..doubt you'll ever see toss win a big tourney.
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