Korean gets EVERY achievement in game - 4960

On October 11 2010 18:17 mierin wrote:
Holy Check!!

On October 11 2010 18:17 mierin wrote:
Holy Check!!

On October 11 2010 18:36 yongming wrote:
He's diamond on 1v1,2v2,3v3 and 4v4 too. T_T

On October 11 2010 18:37 backtoback wrote:


you say it like it's hard ROFL

On October 11 2010 18:37 backtoback wrote:


you say it like it's hard ROFL

On October 11 2010 18:39 stafu wrote:

I think you missed the point. Most people with the 1000/1000/1000/1000 wins achievement have worker-rushed every game and hence stay in bronze. This guy has obviously done it properly.

On October 11 2010 18:46 11cc wrote:


Couldn't he just play the last 20-50 games seriously? Or is it harder to get to diamond after so many games?

On October 11 2010 18:40 weltraumMonster wrote:
how boring the Insane AI Romp 100 Achievment must have been... 100x cannon rushagainst two insane AIs... my god

On October 11 2010 18:59 hoovehand wrote:
getting achievements like 3000 wins so soon is not impressive.

most people who play that much will win tournaments and aim to be one of the best players in their country or even the world.

sacrificing your life to get an achievement is the result of some kind of illness.

On October 11 2010 18:16 Skyze wrote:
So, someone has finally gotten every achievement in the game so far.

http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/305393/1/잉여/achievements/category/4325394

He has 800 FFA wins, 3000 Solo wins, 3000 team wins, all Co-op.. everything.

Is that messed up or what? The guy must of been sharing the account with 2-3 people, theres no way one person could do all this in the short time span the games been out (and wasnt it later in korea?) .. Just the 800 FFA alone must of took forever, considering the average FFA game is ~30 mins, thats 200+ hours right there.

On October 11 2010 18:37 backtoback wrote:


you say it like it's hard ROFL

On October 11 2010 19:52 dtz wrote:
the fayth thread specifically mentioned no korean allowed. so he won't get the money

On October 11 2010 20:15 xylos wrote:
this guys really needs to get a life, fucking sad

On October 11 2010 20:15 xylos wrote:
this guys really needs to get a life, fucking sad

On October 11 2010 20:15 xylos wrote:
this guys really needs to get a life, fucking sad

User was temp banned for this post.

On October 11 2010 20:57 Carefoot wrote:
I'm just over 4k and if I were him I'd be sad because heart of the swarm isn't until 2012

On October 11 2010 19:58 Borked wrote:
Do you guys remember South Park episode on WoW, the last scene was :

-So.. What are we going to do now?
-What do you mean "what are we going to do now?" , we can finally play the game...

On October 11 2010 20:18 kojinshugi wrote:


Guy's spent the last two months playing SC2 24/7.

Whereas you and I are sitting at work reading TL.net.

I think he's just fine in the life department.

On October 11 2010 19:02 Starfox wrote:
The envyness in most of the posts in this thread seems so reach critical levels.

On October 11 2010 18:37 backtoback wrote:


you say it like it's hard ROFL

On October 11 2010 18:37 backtoback wrote:


you say it like it's hard ROFL

On October 11 2010 18:38 Bair wrote:
He will enjoy his 5 minutes of feeling good and move on to his next OCD-induced hobby.

On October 11 2010 22:13 parkin wrote:

OCD Hobbies are the best hobbies

On October 11 2010 21:52 Skeyser wrote:


What is there to envy? It's just useless achievements that took hundreds of hours to get.

On October 11 2010 22:46 Koshi wrote:
Can somebody who speaks Korean check this guy on sc2ranks.com and give me the link? I would love to see when this guy promoted to diamond in 1vs1 2vs2 3vs3 4vs4.

Maybe he promoted only in his last 50 games from bronze to diamond.

On October 11 2010 23:12 out4blood wrote:
Getting all of the achievements that fast is sort of an anti-achievement. Just shows how much time he's wasted.

On October 11 2010 18:17 superbabosheki wrote:
I can't believe people actually care about achievements, he's probably like "shit, now what?"

On October 11 2010 22:28 Jayme wrote:

Not anymore useless than being diamond on a ladder that means nothing.

On October 11 2010 18:38 kawatan wrote:
so, what exactly did the dude get in return?

On October 11 2010 18:36 yongming wrote:
He's diamond on 1v1,2v2,3v3 and 4v4 too. T_T

On October 11 2010 18:17 superbabosheki wrote:
I can't believe people actually care about achievements, he's probably like "shit, now what?"

On October 11 2010 22:48 Skyze wrote:
yeh, the "achievements are meaningless" guys are comical.. All games are meaningless.

I like achievements for the most part, fun little side-game to the super intense 1v1 sessions I play. So while I have 4250 achievement score, I also have 1700 in diamond 1v1, disproving the "people who get achievements only do it cause they suck at the game" bullcrap.

Anyways, Yeh, im pretty sure this was a team of people. thats the only way. I feel like ive wasted WAY too much time on sc2 so far and im not even anywhere near close to this guys hourly rate. Insane.

On October 12 2010 00:24 11cc wrote:
Who are you to say what is meaningless and what is meaningfull, except for yourself? Games aren't meaningless for me.

On October 12 2010 00:38 Angry_Fetus wrote:
The entire concept of achievements depends on certain individuals needs to attain false success - a short-lived sense of fulfillment if you will. At least if you're attempting to get high on the ladder, you're directly competing with real people. Your rank does mean something, you improve, become superior in skill to others. If you wish to chase after virtual achievements, go right ahead. But I sure won't be congratulating you.

On October 12 2010 00:35 Joetoney wrote:
Does it say he got the FFA 400 achievement on 10.10.2010 and then the 800 achiev on 10.11? in one day?

On October 12 2010 00:42 Congism wrote:
Congratulations Mr.잉여

On October 12 2010 00:33 KawaiiRice wrote:
Add an achievement called "Win the GSL" imo
take dat achievement whores

On October 11 2010 18:17 mierin wrote:
Holy Check!!

On October 12 2010 01:40 PaD wrote:
Ok if he played 12 hrs / day with under 10 min games and no losses or other achievements.

It would take 94.41 days

On October 12 2010 00:52 andrewlt wrote:



Skill in SC2 doesn't translate to real life. Your rank is just as meaningless as his achievements unless you can win cash with it. The objective of a video game is to have fun wasting time.

You guys seriously sound like a bunch of religious bigots on a bully pulpit trying to ram your views of what is meaningful or not down others people's throats.

On October 11 2010 18:17 mierin wrote:
Holy Check!!

On October 11 2010 18:50 Fa1nT wrote:
Nothing wrong with account sharing.

On October 12 2010 00:33 KawaiiRice wrote:
Add an achievement called "Win the GSL" imo
take dat achievement whores

On October 12 2010 02:23 Offhand wrote:
Numbers time.

3000 1v1 + 3000 team games + 800 ffa + 1000 co-op + 300 custom = 8100 WINS needed to get all of those achievements.

Assuming a near 100% winrate for custom, co-op, and ffa (assuming you're in diamond, joining a ffa is pretty much a guaranteed win) and assuming about a 50% winrate for actual competitive games:

6000 1v1 + 6000 team games + 800 ffa + 1000 co-op + 300 custom = 14100 games played

14100 / 77 days since release = 183.1 games per day

From a time perspective, it seems pretty much impossible. Unless he attempted cheesing practically every game, the ranked ladder games along are too much time.

15 minutes per 1v1 game * 6000 = 90000
15 minutes per team game * 6000 = 90000
15 minutes per ffa game * 800 = 6000
4 minutes per custom * 400 = 1600
4 minutes per co-op game * 1000 = 4000
Total times spent in games =191600 minutes = 3193.3 hours = 133 days

But wait, that's almost twice as long as the game has actually been out. This heavily implies some kind of exploit, 4v4 game dropping, win trading, account sharing, etc. We haven't even taken into account all of the other achievements as well. Not as large of a time investment, but getting all the campaign, challenge, exploration, and combat achievements was probably a couple days dedicated work too.

On October 12 2010 02:23 Offhand wrote:
Numbers time.

3000 1v1 + 3000 team games + 800 ffa + 750 co-op + 300 custom = 7850 WINS needed to get all of those achievements.

Assuming a near 100% winrate for custom, co-op, and ffa (assuming you're in diamond, joining a ffa is pretty much a guaranteed win) and assuming about a 50% winrate for actual competitive games:

6000 1v1 + 6000 team games + 800 ffa + 750 co-op + 300 custom = 13850 games played

13850 / 77 days since release = 179.8 games per day

From a time perspective, it seems pretty much impossible. Unless he attempted cheesing practically every game, the ranked ladder games along are too much time.

15 minutes per 1v1 game * 6000 = 90000
15 minutes per team game * 6000 = 90000
15 minutes per ffa game * 800 = 6000
4 minutes per custom * 300 = 1200
4 minutes per co-op game * 750 = 3000
Total times spent in games =190200 minutes = 3170 hours = 132 days

But wait, that's almost twice as long as the game has actually been out. This heavily implies some kind of exploit, 4v4 game dropping, win trading, account sharing, etc. We haven't even taken into account all of the other achievements as well. Not as large of a time investment, but getting all the campaign, challenge, exploration, and combat achievements was probably a couple days dedicated work too.

On October 12 2010 02:29 Deathstar wrote:


Where did you pull 15 minutes from? This guy is grinding. If he cheeses and the cheese fails, he's most likely going to leave the game and not waste time.

On October 12 2010 02:32 Offhand wrote:


If you cut 1v1 and team games down to 8 minutes, you still have this guy playing SC about 100% of the time. Things like sleep, food, etc aren't even considered.

EDIT: Nor are we counting things like time spent in matchmaking queue, load times, drops or disconnects, etc.

On October 11 2010 21:54 Sanguinarius wrote:
wow, thats pretty impressive. I am pacing myself to get the 3k wins in about 3-4 years.

EDIT: I just checked his achievements. He got 400 FFA wins in 3 days. Thats crazy.

On October 12 2010 02:32 Offhand wrote:


If you cut 1v1 and team games down to 8 minutes, you still have this guy playing SC about 100% of the time. Things like sleep, food, etc aren't even considered. Almost all of his team wins are in 2v2, so it's likely he found another guy willing to grind that out.

EDIT: Nor are we counting things like time spent in matchmaking queue, load times, drops or disconnects, etc.

On October 12 2010 03:15 Inori wrote:

You're forgetting that the time it shows in match results is ingame time, which is 33% faster than IRL.

On October 12 2010 03:15 Inori wrote:

You're forgetting that the time it shows in match results is ingame time, which is 33% faster than IRL.

On October 12 2010 03:06 blagoonga123 wrote:
I like how people are trying to cheapen his achievement by saying "IT DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING LOL." If you think about it, neither does your rating, at least until you hit like 2000+.

On October 12 2010 03:18 Kaptein[konijn] wrote:


There's a difference between playing to actually become good at a game and just going through the motions to receive the ultimate nerd achievement. And by "going through the motions", I really mean having no, absolutely NO life at all. This guy probably doesn't know what a vagina looks like. He's so nerdish that even porn sites reject him.

Utterly pathetic, but if he wants to waste his time, more power to him..

On October 11 2010 18:38 cabarkapa wrote:

just means he probably isn't doing the joining team games and leaving right away or the worker rushes in 1v1 bronze

On October 12 2010 03:17 Offhand wrote:


Everything I did was calculated in real time not game time.

you say it like it's hard ROFL

On October 12 2010 03:26 Inori wrote:

Then you can cut all the times in like half. I dunno at what level you're playing, but at 1500 diamond LONG games take about 15 mins IRL. Average is 5-7. Cheese is about 3 mins, maybe faster.

On October 12 2010 03:34 Reborn8u wrote:
Congrats!! That took some serious dedication to starcraft, something to be admired!

On October 12 2010 03:37 Draconicfire wrote:
Well for team games, couldn't he just join a game, leave, and re-queue? You'd rack up wins pretty fast like that I would think.

On October 12 2010 03:34 Offhand wrote:

What league are you in where long games are 15 minutes?

Then you can cut all the times in like half. I dunno at what level you're playing, but at 1500 diamond LONG games take about 15 mins IRL. Average is 5-7. Cheese is about 3 mins, maybe faster.

On October 12 2010 03:39 Inori wrote:


Take a wild guess.

15 minutes IRL is about 22-25 minutes in-game (in match results, what have you), which is long for an average ladder game.

On October 12 2010 03:41 Offhand wrote:


8 minutes realtime is still too long.

+ Show Spoiler +

On October 12 2010 03:46 Inori wrote:

Stop thinking you're the smartest one around.
8 minutes for an average ladder game where you don't aim for a win asap (cheese or not), not minimum. That and the fact that he can leave as soon as he senses a loss will cut down A LOT in your calculations.

On October 12 2010 03:23 TOloseGT wrote:


No matter how good you are it's ultimately useless in the grand scheme of things. He chose to go after an attainable goal and did it, what's your goal? Win the GSL?

One man's junk is another man's treasure. What I find utterly pathetic is your ill-founded contempt.

On October 12 2010 03:48 L wrote:
Well, then how's about you add the time he spends shitting eating and sleeping into your calculations.

I have a feeling that they will add A LOT.

On October 12 2010 03:49 Offhand wrote:


Some numbers would help your argument. Until then, I'll continue looking at my own calculations which clearly point to some foul play here.

Also, you keep lowering the playtime for an "average" game. It's getting pretty laughable.

On October 12 2010 03:19 Chained wrote:
This is stupid, the max amount of achievements is 4960? wtf lol

On October 12 2010 03:46 Inori wrote:

Stop thinking you're the smartest one around.
8 minutes for an average ladder game where you don't aim for a win asap (cheese or not), not minimum. That and the fact that he can leave as soon as he senses a loss will cut down A LOT in your calculations.


/Edit: if you'd actually do some research, then you would've seen that he massed join-leave games in different team games http://sc2ranks.com/kr/305393/잉여 so that also cuts down in calculations.

On October 12 2010 03:58 Inori wrote:

Are you a troll?

What more numbers do you need? Do some research? Actually look up the guys info before accusing him of something and/or making a fool out of yourself on the forums? Your calculations can be cut in like 3/4th without even assuming that he cheesed 24/7.

I dunno, maybe at 700 diamond it's a turtle fest and average games really do take 15 minutes+, I wouldn't know. Although cheese is still cheese, shouldn't take any longer.

On October 11 2010 19:09 phaded wrote:
He doesn't have the Collector's Edition Feat of Strength. Not quite the perfect score

On October 12 2010 02:16 jjl wrote:
He is missing the collector's edition achievement (feat of strength), haha.

On October 12 2010 03:46 Inori wrote:

/Edit: if you'd actually do some research, then you would've seen that he massed join-leave games in different team games http://sc2ranks.com/kr/305393/잉여 so that also cuts down in calculations.

On October 12 2010 04:07 DoomsVille wrote:
Relax Inori. I don't see why you think he is mass joining/leaving games in team games. In all his 3v3/4v4 groups he has > 50% win rate (which obviously won't happen if you're just joining/leaving). Most of his 2v2 teams are > 50% as well. The majority of his team wins come from a single 2v2 partner (where he has 4k games played). And look at my calculations. I assume a BARE MINIMUM of 4 minutes per game and show that this is only possible with 8 hours of sleep and SC2 every single other second of his life since the game came out.

It's just not likely.

EDIT: looks like his 2v2 partner in crime almost has 4960 himself. Just needs a little over 100 more achievement points.

On October 12 2010 04:03 Mastermind wrote:

Yup, I will always have one up on this guy

On October 12 2010 04:20 Deathstar wrote:


The collector's edition achievement gives 0 points. It's worthless.

On October 12 2010 04:02 Offhand wrote:


You have an opinion, I have math. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, even if yours is wrong.

Go to the start menu and hit "all programs" you'll find a folder there named "accessories". Hit the calculator option and get to it.

On October 11 2010 18:37 backtoback wrote:


you say it like it's hard ROFL

On October 12 2010 05:52 NeXiLe wrote:
Am I the only one that things they should made all those achievements add up to 5000, not 4960?

On October 12 2010 05:41 Pobearo wrote:
This guy really likes starcraft. A lot.

On October 12 2010 05:52 NeXiLe wrote:
Am I the only one that things they should made all those achievements add up to 5000, not 4960?

On October 12 2010 06:19 Combine wrote:

Yeah. Quite a random number to end on.

On October 12 2010 06:01 Phanekim wrote:
did he do this legitly?

On October 14 2010 03:51 Chocobo wrote:
Terranist: he does deserve the achievements, but it just goes to show you how stupid and pointless achievements really are. Top players have like 100 achievement points, a high achievement score is nothing more than proof of too much time to waste + some level of completionist OCD.

On October 14 2010 04:17 Chocobo wrote:
Depends on how you define "deserve". The achievement says "get the wins", not "get the wins plus the following restrictions:". In a literal sense they have achieved what is required.

It's understandable why some people would call it not legit. But some people would call worker rushing unfair... some would even call 6 pooling cheating. Where do you draw the line? You can't go by opinion... the rules have to be set by the game itself. Have it disallow wins if you leave too early or whatever.

On October 13 2010 22:46 TheMafia wrote:
http://tcpm.mrlazyinc.com/?m=news&nid=56

Thats what i think about that....

On October 12 2010 04:23 Jyvblamo wrote:

I find this post very funny haha.

On October 12 2010 00:35 Joetoney wrote:
Does it say he got the FFA 400 achievement on 10.10.2010 and then the 800 achiev on 10.11? in one day?

On October 11 2010 18:38 Bair wrote:
He will enjoy his 5 minutes of feeling good and move on to his next OCD-induced hobby.

On October 14 2010 06:46 DoubleLariat wrote:
Maybe someone can clear this up for me actually, is it possible to have an account logged into multiple machines at once to multi box?

I know this will probably invite trolls, but I'm just a skeptic... being in law does that to you.

On October 11 2010 19:15 MICHELLE wrote:


It's much more hard on the korean server than on the US server....

On October 11 2010 18:38 Bair wrote:
He will enjoy his 5 minutes of feeling good and move on to his next OCD-induced hobby.

On October 14 2010 05:10 BlasiuS wrote:


worker-rush/6-pool can easily be beaten.

When someone in your 4v4 game leaves your team within the first 5 seconds...there's nothing you can do, your team is now at a disadvantage.

Are you saying that if you intentionally leave a 4v4 game at the very beginning, that you "deserve" credit for the win if the team wins? Uh....of course not. Anyone reasonable would define "deserve" as "get by NOT abusing/exploiting the system". People who start & leave 20+ 4v4 games per hour to get wins are clearly abusing/exploiting the system. Now of course they're not going to get banned or anything. But in my eyes (and 99% of the community) these people clearly don't deserve the wins they get from win-farming.

Not sure how you're even making an argument against this o_O

And btw Blizzard has stated they will fix this by not giving you a win if you join & quickly leave a game: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/777597897?page=2#32