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link0
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1071 Posts
October 06 2010 10:42 GMT
#41
What's the story with ajtls/lastshadow? When when/where was he caught?
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link0
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1071 Posts
October 06 2010 10:43 GMT
#42
On October 06 2010 19:36 MYM.Testie wrote:
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On October 06 2010 17:48 iDoMiNaTe2.0 wrote:
Sorry, but Testie was caught hacking numerous of times it seem he got caught every patch until like 1.13. Yeah of course he didn't need it but he lied about hacking for years

People who just hack and hack over and over again cannot be trusted so please vote no people like hung / fleem


Twice.
Once by my own screen shot.
A second time by Eriador.
That's two. It was done in 2002.


Man I remembered playing against you in 2on2 all the damn time.
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quarkle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom92 Posts
October 06 2010 10:44 GMT
#43
The maphack or variations on it suck but a lot of players using it aren't strong players so at least you got a bit of a chance. Still not cool though.
What really gets my goat is the drophack.
I nearly uninstalled sc2 as a result of being dropped either as soon as the game starts or just when i am about to kick arse.
There really isn't any defence from it.
I am from the uk and have noticed a strong pattern in its usuage.
During school hours or after 11pm when all the kiddies are offline i am relatively safe and only get dropped about 10% of the time.
Last night I played 10 games between 6pm and 8pm resulting in 6 drops
Really blizzard need to sort something out about it and at least change their system.


For example if you get dropped as the game starts the points deducted should be halfed.
Also blizzard themselves should have some detection software in place that automatically bans anyone who has won more than 50% of their games as a result of player drops.
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
October 06 2010 10:45 GMT
#44
Everyone who is stupid enough to hack on important tournaments with alot of people following deserves lifetime ban. Because if you think its OK to hack then, you will hack again.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
October 06 2010 10:45 GMT
#45
If they're playing legit now and not cheating I have no problem with them whatsoever, regardless of their past.
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iDoMiNaTe2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
288 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 10:50:33
October 06 2010 10:45 GMT
#46
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
October 06 2010 10:46 GMT
#47
On October 06 2010 18:43 MetalSlug wrote:
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On October 06 2010 18:02 Strelok wrote:
On October 06 2010 16:59 Vernom wrote:
Well Strelok, we know why you opened this thread. You were beated by one of those "sc/bw's hackers" you mention.

I can understand your rage but you have to know their past actions at another game doesnt imply they are still doing that at sc2. Some of us was a "retard" (hacking/bm/abuse/more things) at one time of our past gaming life and most of those are rehabilited.

I know that was pretty stupid by them at sc/bw but a new game means a new life until they are caught doing the same.


Please don't tell me about lose, i had fun by playing offrace - protoss. But i was really raged to see - that hacker - i talk about Executor now - is back as nothing was happened. This guy runied a big number of competitons and even didn't excuse. That's why i flamed him in the beginning of the game by calling "retarded hacker", not in the end, where i didn't say a single word. And yes, right now - Walen, his manager in LRM, who knew about his hacks and always tried to get him to non-antihack server to play - writes to blizzard to ban me for nomanner. We'll see how it goes.


Ask yourself a few questions please.
Was there any reason to openly BM Executor in the game you were playing against him or was it just you raging over the past ?
Did Executor hack the game you were playing when you insulted him ?
Why didnt you refuse to play against a former hacker ?
Why didnt you just kept your mouth shut and complained after the match ?

you behaved prematurely and deserve to get punished for it.
I hope you dont get banned but you shouldnt BM ppl ingame no matter what they did in the past.
By BM i mean insulting other players btw ^^.

Oh. Pour executor. Can you give me his contact info? I wonna... BM him too.
MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
October 06 2010 10:58 GMT
#48
On October 06 2010 19:46 Cheerio wrote:
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On October 06 2010 18:43 MetalSlug wrote:
On October 06 2010 18:02 Strelok wrote:
On October 06 2010 16:59 Vernom wrote:
Well Strelok, we know why you opened this thread. You were beated by one of those "sc/bw's hackers" you mention.

I can understand your rage but you have to know their past actions at another game doesnt imply they are still doing that at sc2. Some of us was a "retard" (hacking/bm/abuse/more things) at one time of our past gaming life and most of those are rehabilited.

I know that was pretty stupid by them at sc/bw but a new game means a new life until they are caught doing the same.


Please don't tell me about lose, i had fun by playing offrace - protoss. But i was really raged to see - that hacker - i talk about Executor now - is back as nothing was happened. This guy runied a big number of competitons and even didn't excuse. That's why i flamed him in the beginning of the game by calling "retarded hacker", not in the end, where i didn't say a single word. And yes, right now - Walen, his manager in LRM, who knew about his hacks and always tried to get him to non-antihack server to play - writes to blizzard to ban me for nomanner. We'll see how it goes.


Ask yourself a few questions please.
Was there any reason to openly BM Executor in the game you were playing against him or was it just you raging over the past ?
Did Executor hack the game you were playing when you insulted him ?
Why didnt you refuse to play against a former hacker ?
Why didnt you just kept your mouth shut and complained after the match ?

you behaved prematurely and deserve to get punished for it.
I hope you dont get banned but you shouldnt BM ppl ingame no matter what they did in the past.
By BM i mean insulting other players btw ^^.

Oh. Pour executor. Can you give me his contact info? I wonna... BM him too.


i dont even know who that guy is...
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 11:07:52
October 06 2010 11:07 GMT
#49
i presonally wouldnt trust anyone who has ever hacked in any game, at any times. Hacking is like stealing. If you stole once, you are a thief
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Chanted
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway1001 Posts
October 06 2010 11:14 GMT
#50
I think that most of these guys have allready been given there second chance, doesnt really matter what game that chance was given in ( as long it is a competetive game) they should be banned for life. Giving them one chance is debatable, giving them more then 1 chance, thats just stupid. They are destroying the fun for all of us, and especially when there is tournements with prizes, it would just suck to have cheaters ruin it.

BAN THE HACKERS !

Many sports have been ruined by people cheating (like cycling using illegal substances like epo and such ) have ruined the sport for alot of people. I think 6 out of the 8 last winners of Tour de France have been caught using illegal supplements, Lance Armstrong is still debatable, since he has beaten all of the people who did use illegal supplements, but never been caught. Now peoples trust in the sport and the athletes is somewhat ruined. People come back after their 2 year suspension and act like nothing happened, kinda sickening.
TibblesEvilCat
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom766 Posts
October 06 2010 11:15 GMT
#51
i cheated for the single player, but multiplayer there no point :D mostley cause losing with a hack is lol
Live Fast Die Young :D
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32075 Posts
October 06 2010 13:41 GMT
#52
fuck yes, the community is entirely too tolerant of immature jackasses
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Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
October 06 2010 13:44 GMT
#53
On October 06 2010 03:25 BlasiuS wrote:
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On October 06 2010 03:18 TadH wrote:
but with a new game comes new trust, or so I would think.


explain this please. If a hacker constantly cheats, he's not going to suddenly stop cheating when a new game comes out -_-

When trust is destroyed, it takes a long time to get it back. Hackers should never be given a warm welcome, period. IMO I'll never 100% trust a proven hacker, but if they can go 1-2 years without hacking, then at that point maybe the trust-building can begin again.

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On October 06 2010 03:20 superbabosheki wrote:
There are a ton of known hackers/abusers playing right now, lastshadow comes to mind. Everyone gets a second chance, that's life. Thread will probably be closed.. soon.


nobody likes him. But a counter-example is DIMAGA, who is a proven abuser, yet everyone pretty much adores him.


What do you mean, an "abuser"? And when has he done this? I don't know anything about this (not saying its not true, just interested to know more)
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
October 06 2010 13:45 GMT
#54
On October 06 2010 20:07 Geo.Rion wrote:
i presonally wouldnt trust anyone who has ever hacked in any game, at any times. Hacking is like stealing. If you stole once, you are a thief


well, if you steal once and prove later on that you've learned from your mistakes - ok

but if you continuously steal and - worse - have never shown any sign of regret....then that's bad, very bad; ppl like TT1 or ajtls have (or at least seem to have) left their dark past behind them and have lived up to the expectation of the community; totally different
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 13:59:36
October 06 2010 13:52 GMT
#55
On October 06 2010 16:45 Butigroove wrote:
This thread just made me think of LastShadow, although he was more into the map part and not the hacking. My god everything that dude does just makes me chuckle inside to no end.

My thoughts exactly. When I heard he was in the SC2 scene and making results I was all O_O because he caused such hilarious drama back in the day for chronic lying and map-rigging.

EDIT: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=63802 for new-comers unaware of the history.

On topic: the community clearly does not approve of hacking. The only possible benefit of former hackers competing is their becoming successful and providing epic games. Testie has accomplished this, but I feel he is the exception, not the rule. Furthermore, we must weigh the sacrifice of sportsmanship against the benefits of spectating a handful more players.

The community has always dealt with underhanded practices in a rather ad hoc fashion. We are not governed by any single dictator organization, so it will be some time till punishments are codified or unified.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 14:05:23
October 06 2010 14:00 GMT
#56
On October 06 2010 19:36 MYM.Testie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 17:48 iDoMiNaTe2.0 wrote:
Sorry, but Testie was caught hacking numerous of times it seem he got caught every patch until like 1.13. Yeah of course he didn't need it but he lied about hacking for years

People who just hack and hack over and over again cannot be trusted so please vote no people like hung / fleem


Twice.
Once by my own screen shot.
A second time by Eriador.
That's two. It was done in 2002.


I hope whatever personal problems you have resolve (or have resolved) favorably, and you would definitely have a fan in me if you came back to Broodwar or started playing Starcraft 2.

I used to feel differently about hackers. I thought that if you hacked, you deserved to be permanently kicked out from the Starcraft community. But now, my one criterion for accepting past hackers is "has the hacker played well in a LAN where cheating was impossible?" If he has, I don't care if he hacked before that LAN or since.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't raise a stink if blizzard banned them. And I understand that some online tournaments are very important to some players, and those players would be cheated if they were hacked against in those tourneys. So if the hacker is banned from those tournaments as well, that would make sense to me. But do I care that the player hacked? No. Lots of people say Starcraft is their favorite game because of the classy, manner, tight-knit community. I get that some people find that important, but to me it's a joke. I like the game, and I like good players playing game. If I want class, I'll watch some rich white guy on a horse use a cane to hit a little white ball through an arch (a sport which very well may not exist anywhere but in my mind as a a representation of privilege).

So hack away. Get caught hacking multiple times. Repeatedly lie about it -- or revel in the fact that you do it, and laugh at the money you won because of it. Show yourself to be a pathological cheater -- if you're skilled, I want you in the GSL.
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
October 06 2010 14:20 GMT
#57
doenst make much sense imo. somehow this remebers me on the movie "minority report". yeah they hacked, maybe every single game they did in sc1 but that doesnt mean they will do this in a DIFFERENT game.
if you want to ban ex sc1 hackers from tourneys you additionally have to ban wc3 hackers, cs hackers and so on...

they all got their punishment in the game in that they used hacks and they will get punished in this game if they start using hacks.
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
Kaz.
Profile Joined October 2010
United States69 Posts
October 06 2010 14:45 GMT
#58
Hackers ruin games. There's plenty of hilarious ways to mess with people and have fun without hacking. For people who hack repeatedly, if nothing changes then nothing changes and there shouldn't be any kind of welcome back
Attitude is forever
c0rn1
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany146 Posts
October 06 2010 14:56 GMT
#59
The appropriate way how to deal with cheaters/hackers:

=>


that should teach em!
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. " (Albert Einstein)
TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
October 06 2010 14:59 GMT
#60
I think we should look at haypro, caught hacking with obvlivion and cheated only once at Dreamhack, he rehabilitated and came out stronger and better than ever.. we should all learn from this !
Bergkamp ftw!
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