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Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
October 06 2010 08:44 GMT
#21
Time heals all wounds, but a bad reputation sticks...
Bartundar
iDoMiNaTe2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
288 Posts
October 06 2010 08:48 GMT
#22
Sorry, but Testie was caught hacking numerous of times it seem he got caught every patch until like 1.13. Yeah of course he didn't need it but he lied about hacking for years

People who just hack and hack over and over again cannot be trusted so please vote no people like hung / fleem
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
October 06 2010 08:50 GMT
#23
On October 06 2010 17:44 Barundar wrote:
Time heals all wounds, but a bad reputation sticks...

As Seth would say "People don't forget"
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Strelok
Profile Joined January 2006
Ukraine320 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 10:03:37
October 06 2010 09:02 GMT
#24
On October 06 2010 16:59 Vernom wrote:
Well Strelok, we know why you opened this thread. You were beated by one of those "sc/bw's hackers" you mention.

I can understand your rage but you have to know their past actions at another game doesnt imply they are still doing that at sc2. Some of us was a "retard" (hacking/bm/abuse/more things) at one time of our past gaming life and most of those are rehabilited.

I know that was pretty stupid by them at sc/bw but a new game means a new life until they are caught doing the same.


Please don't tell me about lose, i had fun by playing offrace - protoss. But i was really raged to see - that hacker - i talk about Executor now - is back as nothing was happened. This guy runied a big number of competitons and even didn't excuse. That's why i flamed him in the beginning of the game by calling "retarded hacker", not in the end, where i didn't say a single word. And yes, right now - Walen, his manager in LRM ( i deleted the thing i wrote - because i have no proofs) - writes to blizzard to ban me for nomanner. We'll see how it goes.
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
October 06 2010 09:13 GMT
#25
I don't know. I have no BW background but in Wc3 there were so many hackers it's no even funny. And most of them had the attitude to never stop doing so.

So you probably have to distinguish between players... which is problematic.

Hacking is just so damn retarded. I mean most of the hackers don't even feel like they got an unfair advantage out of it, it's ridiculous.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
October 06 2010 09:17 GMT
#26
On October 06 2010 18:02 Strelok wrote:
Walen, his manager in LRM, who knew about his hacks and always tried to get him to non-antihack server to play - writes to blizzard to ban me for nomanner. We'll see how it goes.


and if that succeded, the biggest shitstorm would accure

"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
standalone
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway73 Posts
October 06 2010 09:21 GMT
#27
On October 06 2010 18:13 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Hacking is just so damn retarded. I mean most of the hackers don't even feel like they got an unfair advantage out of it, it's ridiculous.


I guess one would have to lie to oneself to be able to hack. Because if hacks didn't provide an unfair advantage they would be pointless. xD

If someone told me that they hacked, and then told me that it didn't give them an unfair advantage, I would definitely question why they even use hacks if that's true.
Fuck my overlord life
anfionn
Profile Joined September 2010
Ireland28 Posts
October 06 2010 09:27 GMT
#28
Somewhat offtopic,
playing enemy territory, occasionally you would encounter guys with aimbots etc.
They would run around killing everything until the whole server ragequit.(or kick of course)

Hackers ruin games, they take away the gg.

Anyway, Im not big on forgiveness without contrition, but given they can just set up a new account under whatever name they want, Im not going to lose sleep on this
How did I defeat the killbots, simple, I sent wave after wave of my own men
MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
October 06 2010 09:43 GMT
#29
On October 06 2010 18:02 Strelok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 16:59 Vernom wrote:
Well Strelok, we know why you opened this thread. You were beated by one of those "sc/bw's hackers" you mention.

I can understand your rage but you have to know their past actions at another game doesnt imply they are still doing that at sc2. Some of us was a "retard" (hacking/bm/abuse/more things) at one time of our past gaming life and most of those are rehabilited.

I know that was pretty stupid by them at sc/bw but a new game means a new life until they are caught doing the same.


Please don't tell me about lose, i had fun by playing offrace - protoss. But i was really raged to see - that hacker - i talk about Executor now - is back as nothing was happened. This guy runied a big number of competitons and even didn't excuse. That's why i flamed him in the beginning of the game by calling "retarded hacker", not in the end, where i didn't say a single word. And yes, right now - Walen, his manager in LRM, who knew about his hacks and always tried to get him to non-antihack server to play - writes to blizzard to ban me for nomanner. We'll see how it goes.


Ask yourself a few questions please.
Was there any reason to openly BM Executor in the game you were playing against him or was it just you raging over the past ?
Did Executor hack the game you were playing when you insulted him ?
Why didnt you refuse to play against a former hacker ?
Why didnt you just kept your mouth shut and complained after the match ?

you behaved prematurely and deserve to get punished for it.
I hope you dont get banned but you shouldnt BM ppl ingame no matter what they did in the past.
By BM i mean insulting other players btw ^^.
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sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
October 06 2010 09:53 GMT
#30
On October 06 2010 18:43 MetalSlug wrote:
I hope you dont get banned but you shouldnt BM ppl ingame no matter what they did in the past.


I disagree

normally (in reallife) there are authorities who take care of ppl who break the law/etc.; obviously this isn't the case in battle.net/sc2 since blizz doesn't really care about maphackers, they just randomly (temp-)ban the most obvious stuff once in a while

therefore since there is no "authority" to punish these kind of ppl, it's up to us to make them feel that they are not welcome in this game - in every possible manner
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
some_noob
Profile Joined August 2010
160 Posts
October 06 2010 09:55 GMT
#31
Yes, we should. Everyone deserves another chance
Vernom
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Spain374 Posts
October 06 2010 09:56 GMT
#32
On October 06 2010 18:53 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 18:43 MetalSlug wrote:
I hope you dont get banned but you shouldnt BM ppl ingame no matter what they did in the past.
therefore since there is no "authority" to punish these kind of ppl, it's up to us to make them feel that they are not welcome in this game - in every possible manner

Did they hack at SC2?

And a "lack" of punishment by the authority doesnt mean you can punish them because you dont like them.
Strelok
Profile Joined January 2006
Ukraine320 Posts
October 06 2010 10:04 GMT
#33
On October 06 2010 18:43 MetalSlug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 18:02 Strelok wrote:
On October 06 2010 16:59 Vernom wrote:
Well Strelok, we know why you opened this thread. You were beated by one of those "sc/bw's hackers" you mention.

I can understand your rage but you have to know their past actions at another game doesnt imply they are still doing that at sc2. Some of us was a "retard" (hacking/bm/abuse/more things) at one time of our past gaming life and most of those are rehabilited.

I know that was pretty stupid by them at sc/bw but a new game means a new life until they are caught doing the same.


Please don't tell me about lose, i had fun by playing offrace - protoss. But i was really raged to see - that hacker - i talk about Executor now - is back as nothing was happened. This guy runied a big number of competitons and even didn't excuse. That's why i flamed him in the beginning of the game by calling "retarded hacker", not in the end, where i didn't say a single word. And yes, right now - Walen, his manager in LRM, who knew about his hacks and always tried to get him to non-antihack server to play - writes to blizzard to ban me for nomanner. We'll see how it goes.


Ask yourself a few questions please.
Was there any reason to openly BM Executor in the game you were playing against him or was it just you raging over the past ?
Did Executor hack the game you were playing when you insulted him ?
Why didnt you refuse to play against a former hacker ?
Why didnt you just kept your mouth shut and complained after the match ?

you behaved prematurely and deserve to get punished for it.
I hope you dont get banned but you shouldnt BM ppl ingame no matter what they did in the past.
By BM i mean insulting other players btw ^^.


I don't this thread to become a topick about me against Executor, so i won't answer your question to give a new food for discussions.
TheOnlyOne
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany155 Posts
October 06 2010 10:10 GMT
#34
Well if the guy is cheating at a "real" tournament, and repeats doing that, everyone will stop to trust this player, no matter what.

However, if the "cheat" is a MapHack just in normal games, who cares if they are willing to spend another "game key" doing that, it "somehow" supports the game aswell (strangely).


So the two extremes might be clever to seperate aswell instead of the black/white answers.
MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
October 06 2010 10:23 GMT
#35
On October 06 2010 18:53 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 18:43 MetalSlug wrote:
I hope you dont get banned but you shouldnt BM ppl ingame no matter what they did in the past.


I disagree

normally (in reallife) there are authorities who take care of ppl who break the law/etc.; obviously this isn't the case in battle.net/sc2 since blizz doesn't really care about maphackers, they just randomly (temp-)ban the most obvious stuff once in a while

therefore since there is no "authority" to punish these kind of ppl, it's up to us to make them feel that they are not welcome in this game - in every possible manner


He could have disagreed to play someone with a hacker reputation and everyone would have agreed with him but he choose to insult his opponent instead which is just plane wrong and premature.

I have another question: Should player who insult fellow players ingame be allowed to participate in tournaments ?
MKP | Maru | Nada | Boxer | Supernova | Keen
Burban
Profile Joined August 2010
48 Posts
October 06 2010 10:24 GMT
#36
I truely hate hackers so I vote for NO. I hate everything about them, everything they represent in real life is for me disgusting. Yea its just a game tho. But the concept is the same for the BIG cheaters that you see on TV. Despicable human beings.

The likes of TT1 should still be hated. I find it disturbing that this .. guy (tryin to be polite) is somewhat rehabilitated..
SpaceYeti
Profile Joined June 2010
United States723 Posts
October 06 2010 10:31 GMT
#37
The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
Behavior is a function of its consequences.
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 10:58:38
October 06 2010 10:33 GMT
#38
Strelok mentioned the 'famous' German player Selector. Just to give you an impression of how a repeat offender behaves, here the history in short as far as I can remember it.

Selector was present in the (German) community for many years. He got caught _at least_ once every year. Every time he was caught, he would rally up his new found friends and use their reputation as shields, make them argue for his cause and claim to have tried hacking "just in this single game". After receiving a ban, he would smurf into a somewhat respected Clan and do it all over again. He even switched from Protoss to Terran just to disguise himself and it did not stop him from hacking. He got invited to ToT (one of the most important and respected BW Clans outside of SK), only because he knew (Wiki)Mondragon IRL. Mondi risked his reputation to help restore Selector's - soon he was caught hacking again.

IMO, repeat offenders should receive no welcome at all. Ban them as soon as you find out who they are. Selector might be the extreme, but every other repeat offender showed the same characteristics.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 10:36:36
October 06 2010 10:36 GMT
#39
On October 06 2010 17:48 iDoMiNaTe2.0 wrote:
Sorry, but Testie was caught hacking numerous of times it seem he got caught every patch until like 1.13. Yeah of course he didn't need it but he lied about hacking for years

People who just hack and hack over and over again cannot be trusted so please vote no people like hung / fleem


Twice.
Once by my own screen shot.
A second time by Eriador.
That's two. It was done in 2002.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
SunCow
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden7 Posts
October 06 2010 10:42 GMT
#40
On October 06 2010 19:36 MYM.Testie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 17:48 iDoMiNaTe2.0 wrote:
Sorry, but Testie was caught hacking numerous of times it seem he got caught every patch until like 1.13. Yeah of course he didn't need it but he lied about hacking for years

People who just hack and hack over and over again cannot be trusted so please vote no people like hung / fleem


Twice.
Once by my own screen shot.
A second time by Eriador.
That's two. It was done in 2002.



are you back for sc2 nick?

By the way just to stay on topic, i voted "NO" just because its so hard since so many famous players go caught and never mannered up.
fejes..fejes.
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