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Fruitseller (Cool) may change his race in GSL #2 - Page 84

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koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
October 02 2010 19:49 GMT
#1661
On September 30 2010 10:48 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2010 10:43 aztrorisk wrote:
Actually, Cool just owned NLF with ultralisks (practically the same strategy) when Blizzard fixed the bug.


Zerg's main advantage, there are not that many "good" zerg players out there for pros to practice against.


You mean, with the zerglings, banelings, mutas, and infestors sitting on the sidelines?


u say that as if it was a bad thing. rewarding unit diversity in Z late game is pretty awesome imo.
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44137 Posts
October 02 2010 19:51 GMT
#1662
Imagine if Fruitseller played the next GSL as Terran and the next one as Protoss...

+ Show Spoiler +
Winning every GSL as all 3 races should officially make you the best player in the world, right?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
SteveNick
Profile Joined November 2008
United States304 Posts
October 02 2010 20:02 GMT
#1663
I'd say the races are pretty balanced, considering, you know, a Zerg won the GSL. The small nerfs to reapers/battlecruisers/tanks/zealots probably had a bigger snowball impact on the metagame than people give it credit for, considering it was already pretty balanced even before any change.
It's all fun and games until somebody gets 4gated.
AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 20:04:22
October 02 2010 20:04 GMT
#1664
On October 03 2010 05:02 SteveNick wrote:
I'd say the races are pretty balanced, considering, you know, a Zerg won the GSL. The small nerfs to reapers/battlecruisers/tanks/zealots probably had a bigger snowball impact on the metagame than people give it credit for, considering it was already pretty balanced even before any change.


This is exactly why some zerg players didn't want cool to win the GSL.
Just because one player's skill level far exceeded his peers doesn't mean zerg is fine. Look at the other 200 tournaments and see the situation there.
We spend our youth attaining wealth, and our wealth attaining youth.
LeDuck
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany152 Posts
October 02 2010 20:06 GMT
#1665
On October 03 2010 05:04 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2010 05:02 SteveNick wrote:
I'd say the races are pretty balanced, considering, you know, a Zerg won the GSL. The small nerfs to reapers/battlecruisers/tanks/zealots probably had a bigger snowball impact on the metagame than people give it credit for, considering it was already pretty balanced even before any change.


This is exactly why some zerg players didn't want cool to win the GSL.
Just because one player's skill level far exceeded his peers doesn't mean zerg is fine. Look at the other 200 tournaments and see the situation there.


Looks like the troll got you, but do not fear, happens to everyone
Quack
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
October 02 2010 20:11 GMT
#1666
On October 03 2010 05:02 SteveNick wrote:
I'd say the races are pretty balanced, considering, you know, a Zerg won the GSL. The small nerfs to reapers/battlecruisers/tanks/zealots probably had a bigger snowball impact on the metagame than people give it credit for, considering it was already pretty balanced even before any change.


haha Achievement Accomplished bro
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Owarida
Profile Joined April 2010
United States333 Posts
October 02 2010 20:13 GMT
#1667
I quit SC2 months ago..Why play a broken game? Plenty of great balanced games out there to play right now. Only reason people still play is because A) its made by blizzard B) it has "starcraft" in the title. If it were the same game, with diff names of units, diff models, and made by a different company no one would think twice about it. Why? Because its garbage in its current state.

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Gont
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany239 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 20:17:33
October 02 2010 20:16 GMT
#1668
On October 03 2010 05:13 Owarida wrote:
I quit SC2 months ago..Why play a broken game? Plenty of great balanced games out there to play right now. Only reason people still play is because A) its made by blizzard B) it has "starcraft" in the title. If it were the same game, with diff names of units, diff models, and made by a different company no one would think twice about it. Why? Because its garbage in its current state.

actually i agree and i am still playing sc2...the game is fun but without the huge community and the fact that all blizzard games (except WoW) are great i definitely wouldnt play it...

Well i will keep playing it because its mostly fun but no way people will play it for years and years like bw if it stays in its current state (not only balance but mostly the way how boring zerg is after some time)
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
October 02 2010 20:21 GMT
#1669
On October 03 2010 05:13 Owarida wrote:
I quit SC2 months ago..Why play a broken game? Plenty of great balanced games out there to play right now. Only reason people still play is because A) its made by blizzard B) it has "starcraft" in the title. If it were the same game, with diff names of units, diff models, and made by a different company no one would think twice about it. Why? Because its garbage in its current state.


You're influenced too greatly by what other people say.
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
October 02 2010 20:26 GMT
#1670
On October 03 2010 05:04 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2010 05:02 SteveNick wrote:
I'd say the races are pretty balanced, considering, you know, a Zerg won the GSL. The small nerfs to reapers/battlecruisers/tanks/zealots probably had a bigger snowball impact on the metagame than people give it credit for, considering it was already pretty balanced even before any change.


This is exactly why some zerg players didn't want cool to win the GSL.
Just because one player's skill level far exceeded his peers doesn't mean zerg is fine. Look at the other 200 tournaments and see the situation there.


I don't usually partake in balance discussions, but I doubt cool's skill far exceeds those of his peers. If Zerg players spent even half the time they do on forums whining about their race actually trying to improve their play then maybe this wouldn't be a problem.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
fdsdfg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1251 Posts
October 02 2010 20:31 GMT
#1671
On October 03 2010 05:26 Firkraag8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2010 05:04 AssuredVacancy wrote:
On October 03 2010 05:02 SteveNick wrote:
I'd say the races are pretty balanced, considering, you know, a Zerg won the GSL. The small nerfs to reapers/battlecruisers/tanks/zealots probably had a bigger snowball impact on the metagame than people give it credit for, considering it was already pretty balanced even before any change.


This is exactly why some zerg players didn't want cool to win the GSL.
Just because one player's skill level far exceeded his peers doesn't mean zerg is fine. Look at the other 200 tournaments and see the situation there.


I don't usually partake in balance discussions, but I doubt cool's skill far exceeds those of his peers. If Zerg players spent even half the time they do on forums whining about their race actually trying to improve their play then maybe this wouldn't be a problem.


It's not that everyone won't stop whining about the race - it's zerg's style. Zerg's early->midgame is all about trying to recover from your inherent economic/production/unit disadvantage. Zerg has no way to play it safe, wall in, and go for some particular build - or to push an offense and put pressure on the opponent. It's all about not dying.

When a zerg player plays like that for 10 minutes, makes it to late game, and simply gets his 200/200 army slaughtered by the enemy's 200/200 army in ideal circumstances, then goes online and sees all the pros thinking about changing races from zerg... it's very hard to go back and play another game at your A game.
aka Siyko
SwaY-
Profile Joined March 2009
Dominican Republic463 Posts
October 02 2010 20:34 GMT
#1672
SC2 has Wow Syndroma, sure I QQ a lot in my circle of friends but you people take it to some heights. I like how people have the need to come on the forums and say they quit SC2, we care, we really do.
Do it beautifully
NATO
Profile Joined April 2010
United States459 Posts
October 02 2010 20:38 GMT
#1673
So when a Terran or Protoss wins some minor tournament it's because their race is too powerful, but when a Zerg wins the biggest SC2 tournament yet, it's because his skill is orders of magnitudes higher than everyone else?

You guys are ridiculous. This is all political, and you're just repeating bullshit to get your race buffed because you're lazy.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 02 2010 20:49 GMT
#1674
On October 03 2010 05:38 NATO wrote:
So when a Terran or Protoss wins some minor tournament it's because their race is too powerful, but when a Zerg wins the biggest SC2 tournament yet, it's because his skill is orders of magnitudes higher than everyone else?

You guys are ridiculous. This is all political, and you're just repeating bullshit to get your race buffed because you're lazy.


I always find posts like these cute. Do you have any experience playing zerg? I'm not a pro by any stretch of the imagination, but I like to play random races and I'm not really set on any one race. Having said that zerg is my weakest race, whether this has to do with imbalance or simple mechanical differences is up for debate, but don't run your mouth about shit you know nothing about. Ya just look ignant
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
ArtOfRandom
Profile Joined October 2010
United States36 Posts
October 02 2010 20:50 GMT
#1675
On October 03 2010 05:38 NATO wrote:
So when a Terran or Protoss wins some minor tournament it's because their race is too powerful, but when a Zerg wins the biggest SC2 tournament yet, it's because his skill is orders of magnitudes higher than everyone else?

You guys are ridiculous. This is all political, and you're just repeating bullshit to get your race buffed because you're lazy.


Agreed, but you won't get through to them. At this point there are too many people repeating what they've heard, and sheep take great comfort in numbers
Oakstream
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden240 Posts
October 02 2010 20:53 GMT
#1676
i like the fact that pretty much every thread eventually turns into a balance discussion,(and yes, im a zerg) but 1 problem for zerg i think, is that most zerg doesn't know how to play against terran in a decent way,

and i hope you all know that he is not changing, he said in GSL interview with Artosis that because of his success in this tournament he will stay with zerg.
"A lot of times what happens when you get a queen is that you make it."
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
October 02 2010 20:56 GMT
#1677
This thread is primed for destruction.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
October 02 2010 21:05 GMT
#1678
He already said that he will stay Zerg in a interview.

BTW: Amazing, a Zerg player won the GSL
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
October 02 2010 21:15 GMT
#1679
omg. zerg won. zerg is op. nerf zerg. buff toss cuz they didn't make it into the semis.


Anyways, much congrats to Fruitseller. Quite the accomplishment. <3
I get it.
zak
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1009 Posts
October 02 2010 21:31 GMT
#1680
Fruitseller's 2nd reply:
What am I supposed to do when they use 3 dropships and expand all over the map.


lol he sure didnt have a hard time!
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