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On September 22 2010 09:06 VanGarde wrote: A fix would had been something in between. Who in their right mind will sacrifice 25 scv's that will die to splash in a few seconds? You simply won't repair PF's ever now against ultras. You will have to run and sack the expo instantly. This is called a "counter". It's like when my scouting stalker sees a marauder and runs like a girl. Most things have counters in this game.
Lovin' these Terran tears.
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This is blasphemy! , this is madness!
i dont understund this seriously 1 million zerglings vs a planetary +scv will lose (the zerglings will lose...) but 1 ultra will rape every scv+planetary? this doesnt make sense in any world. I agree, planetary+scv needs to be nerfed to zerg (or zerg needs to be buffed) but this is just madness
oh and zerg players oh god you guys are annoying all you do is QQ about TvZ is imbalanced in everysense and when they make a nonsense change like this all you say is "love terran tears" when you are the ones who have been crying all these months (im not talking about all of you obviously but most zergs are like this)
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On September 22 2010 09:11 Pekkz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2010 09:02 Kare wrote: This is obviously a bug, if not, im outta sc2 Terran tears is too sweet, cya!
Perks, I'm all for balance, but did you see what happened there?
The ultras had splash to like range 6. That's a little excessive, even for a badass tier 3 unit.
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It's so silly that the splash origniates from the target rather than just being in front of the Ultra. MAKES NO SENSE!
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On September 22 2010 09:12 Yaotzin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2010 09:06 VanGarde wrote: A fix would had been something in between. Who in their right mind will sacrifice 25 scv's that will die to splash in a few seconds? You simply won't repair PF's ever now against ultras. You will have to run and sack the expo instantly. This is called a "counter". It's like when my scouting stalker sees a marauder and runs like a girl. Most things have counters in this game. Lovin' these Terran tears.
If it works like that, you're going to be shedding protoss tears in PvZ soon enough :D.
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For one, I think people are VASTLY overestimating the strength of PFs. We already had an answer, it was called Mutas, Fungal Growth, Infested Terran Spam, baneling drops....
I mean, yes, PFs are strong. They weren't as strong as people we making them out to be, and certainly not as strong as THIS! lol
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You terrans QQ'ing know how fast you can kill a hive with the same amount of stimmed marauders compared to those ultras? Just pull away your workers much like we have to do when you have banshees, helions, thor drops, marauder drops, viking lands and cliffed tanks. seriously l2p
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God, I love how all Zergs flock to this thread claiming how Terrans are OP and that they're all just ignorant in not recognizing clear balance issues ... and then watch this VOD and pretend it's fine.
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On September 22 2010 09:13 Saechiis wrote: God, I love how all Zergs flock to this thread claiming how Terrans are OP and that they're all just ignorant in not recognizing clear balance issues ... and then watch this VOD and pretend it's fine. Undefended expansion gets taken down by a handful of units. Clear balance issue here.
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On September 22 2010 09:15 ohN wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2010 09:13 Saechiis wrote: God, I love how all Zergs flock to this thread claiming how Terrans are OP and that they're all just ignorant in not recognizing clear balance issues ... and then watch this VOD and pretend it's fine. Undefended expansion gets taken down by a handful of units. Clear balance issue here.
Handful of units costing 900/600 and 18 supply lululul
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On September 22 2010 09:13 IamTheWhiteGuy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2010 09:12 Yaotzin wrote:On September 22 2010 09:06 VanGarde wrote: A fix would had been something in between. Who in their right mind will sacrifice 25 scv's that will die to splash in a few seconds? You simply won't repair PF's ever now against ultras. You will have to run and sack the expo instantly. This is called a "counter". It's like when my scouting stalker sees a marauder and runs like a girl. Most things have counters in this game. Lovin' these Terran tears. If it works like that, you're going to be shedding protoss tears in PvZ soon enough :D. Nope. They're still weak to strong ranged units (immortals, archons etc), and of course they can't shoot up.
I have no problem with Zerg having a dangerous drop to pull on me.
It's just silly Terrans who think they should be able to defend an expo with 1 building that consider this broken.
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On September 22 2010 09:13 Saechiis wrote: God, I love how all Zergs flock to this thread claiming how Terrans are OP and that they're all just ignorant in not recognizing clear balance issues ... and then watch this VOD and pretend it's fine. Hey, don't lump all of us together like that. I know this is stupidly IMBA, and I guarantee many MANY other Zergs resent your statement.
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On September 22 2010 09:13 Whomp wrote: You terrans QQ'ing know how fast you can kill a hive with the same amount of stimmed marauders compared to those ultras? Just pull away your workers much like we have to do when you have banshees, helions, thor drops, marauder drops, viking lands and cliffed tanks. seriously l2p
Clearly the issue isn't that fact the PF dies, the issue is that all scv's die to invisible splash damage. And ofcourse Zerg pulls all drones, they can't repair so hanging around to watch the fireworks isn't of much use -_-'
@SpaceYeti: except you ^^ Generalising is easier than to look up all guilty people
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On September 22 2010 09:13 Whomp wrote: You terrans QQ'ing know how fast you can kill a hive with the same amount of stimmed marauders compared to those ultras? Just pull away your workers much like we have to do when you have banshees, helions, thor drops, marauder drops, viking lands and cliffed tanks. seriously l2p
Ye, its hilarious. Terran has 5 ways to harass a expansion. Zerg had ZERO ways to harass terran expo with PF. Now there is a tier 3 unit that can do it, and all terrans here scream imbalance, its so god damn funny
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On September 22 2010 09:13 Saechiis wrote: God, I love how all Zergs flock to this thread claiming how Terrans are OP and that they're all just ignorant in not recognizing clear balance issues ... and then watch this VOD and pretend it's fine.
terran tears are so fucking delicious...
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On September 22 2010 09:13 Saechiis wrote: God, I love how all Zergs flock to this thread claiming how Terrans are OP and that they're all just ignorant in not recognizing clear balance issues ... and then watch this VOD and pretend it's fine.
You should give this patch some time, I mean it's barely out worldwide, and people are already claiming that x/y is overpowered/broken. Seriously just wait and see what are the consequences in-game before crying imbalance.
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On September 22 2010 09:12 Yaotzin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2010 09:06 VanGarde wrote: A fix would had been something in between. Who in their right mind will sacrifice 25 scv's that will die to splash in a few seconds? You simply won't repair PF's ever now against ultras. You will have to run and sack the expo instantly. This is called a "counter". It's like when my scouting stalker sees a marauder and runs like a girl. Most things have counters in this game. Lovin' these Terran tears.
I played the game and uploaded the video - it was the very first game right after the patch was done. I think the T player just didn't realize the change and "repair the PF" was his standard response (which worked pre-patch)
I think something like this is good, but the splash in the video is way too big.
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Ok guys
think about this a moment
What happens when a zerg has no army at their expo, and a terran sends 6 thors to it?
With ultras, at least one will die
with Thors? full hp all around
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On September 22 2010 09:18 Pekkz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2010 09:13 Whomp wrote: You terrans QQ'ing know how fast you can kill a hive with the same amount of stimmed marauders compared to those ultras? Just pull away your workers much like we have to do when you have banshees, helions, thor drops, marauder drops, viking lands and cliffed tanks. seriously l2p Ye, its hilarious. Terran has 5 ways to harass a expansion. Zerg had ZERO ways to harass terran expo with PF. Now there is a tier 3 unit that can do it, and all terrans here scream imbalance, its so god damn funny  Really? Zero? Do you play this game? Please don't make Zerg look bad.
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Pretty nuts. We'll see how this plays out in the long run though.
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