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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On September 22 2010 09:00 yoplate wrote: I think this so called "bug" will help late game zerg, as the attack priority on SCVs is ridiculously low. Now expansions are snipable as zerg even if it has a PF. If you lower the range of the splash to 1 or something that only repairing SCVs get hit it helps aswell, doesn't it? | ||
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VanGarde
Sweden755 Posts
Shortsighted people like to point out that a PF costs 550/150. It doesn't. It costs that PLUS 250-300 minerals every 30 seconds or however long it takes for an orbital command to gain 50 energy. The longer a PF is up the more expensive it gets. So when you are getting a PF you pretty much have to determine if it is worth the ridiculous amount of lost income to get that extra defense. Now previously this has been the case for bases that are likely to come under a lot of attack because the fact that you can repair your PF means that the cost effectivity remains pretty balanced. Yes you loose income all the time over a long period of time but the repairability also means that you can retain the building over a long period of time. It seems to me that this nerf will not quite accomplish anything real as with most of blizzards changes. The PF will be weaker but this won't prevent terrans from throwing excess money into PF's in the middle of the map. Instead it will remove the nuance of picking PF or OC for normal expansions because it will always only really be worth getting the OC. So the game is dumbed down yet again. | ||
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Teddyman
Finland362 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/T5AQC.jpg) As you can see, it's not going to hit the SCVs that are on a mineral patch. It probably takes a single ultra 20 seconds to kill all the workers mining if the other player doesn't react at all. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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WniO
United States2706 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9110 Posts
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TheOGBlitzKrieg
United States346 Posts
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Disastorm
United States922 Posts
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United States107 Posts
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Kare
Norway786 Posts
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On September 22 2010 08:56 SpaceYeti wrote: And no, Terrans should be able to repair a factory/barracks/starport/CC/whatnot that's being attacked from the other side without it meaning SCV death in 1.5 seconds. They can. Except against one expensive unit. What's the problem with that? Blizzard clearly want Ultras to be good at chomping up a base, they said as much. I agree that repair is absurdly strong at the moment, but the answer is nerfing repair rates, not making Ultra's damage everything is a radius 5-6x the size of the ultra itself. And what, might I ask, Protoss players supposed to do against mass repair PF?  Storm does fine. Not everyone has to deal with them identically well. No, this is definitely going to be patched. Why? Other than it looking kinda odd there's no reason whatsoever to think it will be. | ||
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SpaceYeti
United States723 Posts
On September 22 2010 09:01 clusen wrote: If you lower the range of the splash to 1 or something that only repairing SCVs get hit it helps aswell, doesn't it? That screws the ultra against smaller units then, like marines.  I hope they fix it but in such as way that doesn't gimp the ultra against other units. | ||
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Navious
Canada4 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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tacrats
476 Posts
what looks more dumb? 20 scvs and a PF owning a whole zerg army or ultralisks cleaving scvs that repair it? hmmm | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
 And wow how long it took people to fully realize the preliminary announcement meant huge ultra buff. Now, off to killing fields of supply depots, warpgates next to each other etc. If you aim well, you can hit 2-3 buildings at once.Yes, ultra heaven baby. Tanks are weaker now, but Terrans still need to make them, because of the ultras etc. Joy for the Zerg! The patch has come! Ta-ta-ta.. edit: Of course, this particular AoE behavior will be fixed. It's just not how the attack is supposed to work. It should be a circle that affects the target and anything within it, not a circle starting from the target; and even less, adding the target radius to the AoE radius. Sloppy implementation. If they leave it, then imagine how this affects multiple buildings. Two CC/PF/OC next to each other? Man, just one ultra can then deal more damage than a nuke. It will be fixed. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
It looks like it calculates damage from one Ultra hitting the PF and applies the splash area in a circle around the PF. Clearly fualty programming if it's even real ... did someon try this out? | ||
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Antares777
United States1971 Posts
On September 22 2010 07:47 Seam wrote: Indeed. I knew that the splash would buff Ultras vs buildings, but holy shit lol. Edit: OMG ZERGLING ICON I HAS! Ultra > anything on the ground. Literally. This is a good thing for Zerg. ...I don't have the zergling icon... | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On September 22 2010 09:03 SpaceYeti wrote: That screws the ultra against smaller units then, like marines. I hope they fix it but in such as way that doesn't gimp the ultra against other units.That's why I said earlier that Ultras will most likely get a new attack vs buildings, it would fix both. Sorry I didn't include it on the other post, this thread gets filled fast and many posts overlooked I guess. | ||
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BeefAvenger
Canada54 Posts
balance talk aside, it doesn't make any sense | ||
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