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Banner in courtesy of who ever made it. Just borrowing it.
So like anyone who has nothing better to do on a Sunday night before class, I just surf the web and check on the latest news (world, gaming or what ever else you do). While I was checking on my esports news I stumbled upon some of the IEM European qualifiers that have been going on (Germany, Netherlands, Belgium and etc.) and eventually was lead to this page on the Intel Extreme Masters site.
http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/europe_sc2_nq/#/masters/season5/europe_sc2_nq/
It has the list of all the players that have qualified for the European Championship and it also says which one of them have to go through qualifying rounds before getting into the EU Championship. So I'll just go ahead and list them here.
Qualified for the European Championship
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Qualification round 2
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Qualification round 1
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Please note that I might have some of the flags or race wrong. Chances are I forgot a player as well. If you see a mistake don't panic just post it and I'll fix it. About the race, I do not know all of these players but I found out about most of them through GosuGamers, VODs and the ESL replays of them.
I do not work for ESL but since I opened this thread I might as well help out if anyone has trouble understanding anything. Some of you might probably wonder WTF the qualification rounds are for. Basically, due to the skill level between some of these countries ("rankings"), they presume that for some players it's much easier to qualify then others. So they give out less slots and also make them work harder to get in to the European Championship, which is where they want to be.
WTF is qualification round 1+2?
+ Show Spoiler +http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/europe_sc2_nq/#/masters/season5/europe_sc2_qr/- The Qualification Round 1 is the first round for international competition. The national representants are decided through National Cups and as they go in to the Qualification Round 1 (QR1), everything is at stake to first move on to QR2, and the goal: the European Championship. - The last battle that 24 players take on is the Qualification Round 2. Half of them are known from the National Ranking, while the other eighteen comes from QR1. Winners here head in to the European Championship of Intel Extreme Masters season 5.
The European Championship will work similar to the American one. Players will go through best-of-3 round robin group stages. Top player advances to the European Championship LAN finals. I think they make #2 play against #3 from a different group to determine who else goes I kinda forgot about this part.
F.A.Q.
+ Show Spoiler +Why were so many Terran invited?They were not invited. They qualified. Why are there so many Terran?I don't know and I don't care. Terran?NO! I count 6 zergs. You made a mistake, there must be more?-_-" No. Well maybe. UPDATE #1: Yes I did make a mistake. Ourk is not Zerg. He plays Terran. MorroW already qualified for the global finals, why is he there?Money, sex and glory. No TLO? WHAT!He did not play in the qualifiers. Why no Koreans?It's the Intel Extreme Master European Championship. You figure it out. How were these seeds determined?Important thing to know is that ESL seeds by country and not player. They have a ranking to decide that which can be found here - http://www.esl-world.net/masters/country_ranking_season_5/Is that the real Draco?Yes. That is ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/pl.png) Krzysztof " Draco" Nalepka himself. Is SaJer LucifroN?No. He just happens to be a Terran player who is also from Spain who plays for Team Wizards.
The first thread I have ever created on TL.net. Hopefully it's a good one and I look forward to contributing more to this community. I know some of you will be shocked after seeing the all the players that qualify but please try not to derail the thread into a flame wars and have it closed.
- GenoZStriker
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Pretty sure Ourk plays Terran, so make that 5 Zerg and 27 Terran.
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lol nice FAQ 
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United Arab Emirates492 Posts
On September 13 2010 14:03 cuppatea wrote:
Pretty sure Ourk plays Terran, so make that 5 Zerg and 27 Terran.
Yes, he does play Terran.
God bless the Terran talent pool (not being sarcastic  ).
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netherlands & belgium had tvt finals
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ahaha nice FAQ.
nice write up, good to see some old names popping up.
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I think Skyhigh would throw a party if this was the racial lineup for a starleague.
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Sick player pool guys. Gonna see some awesome awesome games with a lot of variety.
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TLO is in korea, cmon guys don't ask stupid questions... Hopefully he makes ro8 or ro4, that would be nice (If he won it would be also nice, but very optimistic)
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first of all, thanks for the write-up, the esl rules had me confused for a while, and their site is a mess to navigate on.
Second: lolled hard at the skyhigh comment :')
And yes, that is a shit-ton of terran's. And it makes me kind of sad as a zerg.
In the currently qualified we have 2 zerg's in total. None in the first round
And 3 in the second round.
I have never heard of these guys in the second round before, and seeing that they have to win there, and then go trough a 24 player field with a lot of strong names I really don't expect any of them to actually qualify.
So that means that the zerg hope of getting a good place for a zerg in IEM is basicly on the back of dimaga (<3 dimaga, hope you do well).
For the rest, ugh, this is not good for sc2 (and yes I don't care what the reason is, for all I care all the EU p&z sucks, and the T's are really just that good), going into a big event like this, having a PvT now and then with some minor PvP/ZvT/ZvP (wich will only be a couple of games) and then 80% of the other games being a TvT mirror will be extremely boring imo.
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Holy shit, there are far too many Terran players.
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lol at the race distribution. Not gonna watch this tournament.
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Yeah, I'm not looking forward to a shit ton of TvTs.
Fix this fucking game.
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anyone know if IEM are going to hold an asian championship?
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This is how every tournament looks in europe right now. Top 8 is generally made up of only terrans with the exception of DIMAGA and Socke who sometimes manages to place high.
After a while of following the EU scene you get kinda fed up with TvT's.
There is alot of really strong terrans in europe and they are dominating right now.
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DeMusliM has to qualify  Would have thought he'd have been qualified already.
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oh man, devastating results in the Austrian qualifier, despite winning the winner's bracket, bioboyAT was unable to defeat xEi in the grand finals. Terrible news as I've heard that bioboyAT rocks!
As a side note, I feel like I want to take Russia and Norway aside and have a pep talk, what happened guys? You're the land of so many BW and War3 greats, but I only see a couple of names i recognize in the qualifier brackets, tell those kids to start playing
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Gonna watch this till dimaga gets knocked out, hopefully it will be at finals
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On September 13 2010 14:03 cuppatea wrote:
Pretty sure Ourk plays Terran, so make that 5 Zerg and 27 Terran.
Yeah I was going to say the same thing I am pretty sure his zerg wouldn't qualify
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27 Terran
5 Zerg
13 Protoss
1 Random
Wonder how many T will qualify for global finals.
We'll see so many TvT games then ><
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wow, almost no Z and, even weirder - not that many Protoss....
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On September 13 2010 18:00 kickinhead wrote:
wow, almost no Z and, even weirder - not that many Protoss....
You're surprised at the lack of Protoss?
Protoss gets absolutely smashed by Terran.
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too many terrans...thats not funny anymore
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Does anyone know the actual global distribution of players to races?
Maybe this is representable to the persentage of players to race.
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Is the Draco the real Draco? Thought he lost interest in computer games :d ?
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25 terrans ? Seriously ?
Terran should be banned from tournaments until they are fixed.
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Funny to see, the Norwegian quali finals are played tonight at 17.00 CEST?
Knutzi (Protoss) Vs Skruf (Zerg)
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England2662 Posts
I think you can assume that SaJer is Lucifron and DeathAngel is NightEnd.
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On September 13 2010 20:42 Flicky wrote:
I think you can assume that SaJer is Lucifron and DeathAngel is NightEnd.
since when did nightend switch to z ;p
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- Fixed Ourk's race from Zerg to Terran.
SaJer is not LucifroN. He is a totally different person. Plays for team Wizard.
NightEnd lost in the first round of the qualifiers.
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This thread is going to end in a big "QQ Terran's OP"-fest...
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The EU is Terran central -_-;;.
Even so, looking forward to it so go Dimaga, Ourk and Demus (even though you play Terran I forgive you for being such a nice guy!)
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Norway is so weak at e-sports, it's appalling.
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Well, since Dimaga and Socke are the only interesting players playing I guess I'll have tons of time for doing useful stuff instead of following this terran championship!
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OMG. Look at all those terrans :[
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On September 13 2010 18:29 chrisolo wrote:
Is the Draco the real Draco? Thought he lost interest in computer games :d ?
Yeah. It's him.
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England2662 Posts
On September 13 2010 20:52 GenoZStriker wrote:
- Fixed Ourk's race from Zerg to Terran.
SaJer is not LucifroN. He is a totally different person. Plays for team Wizard.
NightEnd lost in the first round of the qualifiers.
Well who the hell are these guys and how did they get straight seeded into the finals. I've never heard of either of them and my forte on Liquipedia is knowing who players are.
If they just waddled through their country's qualification and got seeded on the Back of one successful player from their country... I dunno, that doesn't sound right.
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ESL seeds by country and not player. The countries have a rank based on their achievements at ESL.
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On September 13 2010 21:09 Flicky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 20:52 GenoZStriker wrote:
- Fixed Ourk's race from Zerg to Terran.
SaJer is not LucifroN. He is a totally different person. Plays for team Wizard.
NightEnd lost in the first round of the qualifiers. Well who the hell are these guys and how did they get straight seeded into the finals. I've never heard of either of them and my forte on Liquipedia is knowing who players are. If they just waddled through their country's qualification and got seeded on the Back of one successful player from their country... I dunno, that doesn't sound right.
What do you mean by straight seeded into the finals?
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England2662 Posts
On September 13 2010 21:17 nam nam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 21:09 Flicky wrote:On September 13 2010 20:52 GenoZStriker wrote:
- Fixed Ourk's race from Zerg to Terran.
SaJer is not LucifroN. He is a totally different person. Plays for team Wizard.
NightEnd lost in the first round of the qualifiers. Well who the hell are these guys and how did they get straight seeded into the finals. I've never heard of either of them and my forte on Liquipedia is knowing who players are. If they just waddled through their country's qualification and got seeded on the Back of one successful player from their country... I dunno, that doesn't sound right. What do you mean by straight seeded into the finals?
They're seeded straight into the European Championships.
On September 13 2010 21:16 GenoZStriker wrote:
ESL seeds by country and not player. The countries have a rank based on their achievements at ESL.
Right, and Spain and Romania's ranks are basically entirely held up by Lucifron and NightEnd.
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On September 13 2010 21:19 Flicky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 21:17 nam nam wrote:On September 13 2010 21:09 Flicky wrote:On September 13 2010 20:52 GenoZStriker wrote:
- Fixed Ourk's race from Zerg to Terran.
SaJer is not LucifroN. He is a totally different person. Plays for team Wizard.
NightEnd lost in the first round of the qualifiers. Well who the hell are these guys and how did they get straight seeded into the finals. I've never heard of either of them and my forte on Liquipedia is knowing who players are. If they just waddled through their country's qualification and got seeded on the Back of one successful player from their country... I dunno, that doesn't sound right. What do you mean by straight seeded into the finals? They're seeded straight into the European Championships.Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 21:16 GenoZStriker wrote:
ESL seeds by country and not player. The countries have a rank based on their achievements at ESL. Right, and Spain and Romania's ranks are basically entirely held up by Lucifron and NightEnd.
Maybe it's my inability to comprehend English, but didn't they qualify for it? I'm not really following what you are wanting say with it.
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How \ where \ when \ what the norwegian qualifier ?
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On September 13 2010 21:09 Flicky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 20:52 GenoZStriker wrote:
- Fixed Ourk's race from Zerg to Terran.
SaJer is not LucifroN. He is a totally different person. Plays for team Wizard.
NightEnd lost in the first round of the qualifiers. Well who the hell are these guys and how did they get straight seeded into the finals. I've never heard of either of them and my forte on Liquipedia is knowing who players are. If they just waddled through their country's qualification and got seeded on the Back of one successful player from their country... I dunno, that doesn't sound right.
Who are they? Random terran scrubs with 60apm and no multitasking coming out of nowhere.
+ Show Spoiler +Let's keep telling ourselves there's nothing wrong with the game. There will surely be new tricks and strategies in the future to differentiate good players from bad. + Show Spoiler +And they will magically appear out of nowhere
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On September 13 2010 21:39 LaLuSh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 21:09 Flicky wrote:On September 13 2010 20:52 GenoZStriker wrote:
- Fixed Ourk's race from Zerg to Terran.
SaJer is not LucifroN. He is a totally different person. Plays for team Wizard.
NightEnd lost in the first round of the qualifiers. Well who the hell are these guys and how did they get straight seeded into the finals. I've never heard of either of them and my forte on Liquipedia is knowing who players are. If they just waddled through their country's qualification and got seeded on the Back of one successful player from their country... I dunno, that doesn't sound right. Who are they? Random terran scrubs with 60apm and no multitasking coming out of nowhere. + Show Spoiler +Let's keep telling ourselves there's nothing wrong with the game. There will surely be new tricks and strategies in the future to differentiate good players from bad. + Show Spoiler +And they will magically appear out of nowhere
The romanian guy is playing Zerg, what now?
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This is gonna be fucking boring shit. 9/12 terrans, this is getting stupid.
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On September 13 2010 21:44 Pekkz wrote:
This is gonna be fucking boring shit. 9/12 terrans, this is getting stupid.
Yepp. I'm actually looking forward to seing a cup where there is room for say 5 of each race + 1 to make it possible.
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At this point I am for strongly nerfing Terrans just so players switch back to other races and we can watch some more interesting tournaments. Do not even care about balance, just give us back all kind of MU during tournaments, not mostly TvT or TvP or TvZ in all games.
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Watching only TvX over and over in every tournament is getting really boring, really fast.
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The influx of terran is so unattractive XD
Good luck to all the players, I'm rooting for dimaga let's go zerg!.
Edit: hope lalush doesn't get banned for his post
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On September 13 2010 21:35 GenoZStriker wrote:He's asking why they were given direct seed in the championship and not the qualification rounds. Unfortunately I don't exactly know how ESL does their seeding for SC2 but they have a ranking to decide that. http://www.esl-world.net/masters/country_ranking_season_5/
Seems a pretty random way of allocating player spots considering its a 1v1 game.. maybe if it was an international team pro-league or something that would work out ok, but as everyone is playing for themselves and country makes no difference in this I can't figure at all why that's the way they do it.
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Nice post !
Seems like you have forgotten iD.TuZeR (french terran) in QR1 though.
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The worst part is that the 1.1 wont address any heavy improvement in TvsXXX matches, so we are gonna be stuck for at least another month suffering borings TvsX tournaments.
And I really dislike the idea of heavy nerf terran and remove valid strategies, cause then terran will be bored to play aswell.
For example, most of the games you see Bioball whole time, if they nerf tanks, then it will be more strange to see mech games.
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gonna watch all the games where a Z or a P is still in the tourney and playing matches...
after that there is nothing more to see. esl / blizzard can go figure what went wrong
thats so sad actually...
PS: congratz Ts now you all can have your most hated matchup TvTs all the way lol. everyone hates to play vs T even Ts themselves lmao.
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It kinda feels to me when I'm playing that ZvT is balanced... except that what I'm doing is 10x harder and that I'll never be able to beat a terran of equal skill.
I think this is the problem.
edit: Oh ya, GOGO DIMAGA!
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On September 13 2010 22:40 Tamotab wrote:
Nice post !
Seems like you have forgotten iD.TuZeR (french terran) in QR1 though.
Thank you. Yes I did indeed forgot him and have added him to the list.
- Added TuZeR (French Terran) to the list of players in QR1
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The race distribution is funny and sad at the same time. As I've said before, blizzard would hit with their heads on the walls until they fixed imbalances, mainly to do with terran. Let's see how much head beating they will do until they decide to fix them.
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IS DRACO PLAYING SC2?? oh god OH DEAR GOD
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Is it a terran championship ?
Seriously, the player pool is so good, hope to be able to watch that or get a hold of the replay.
(I almost got happy to see some random player but it's just spot still open )
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GOD DAMN I HATE TERRAN.
TvT can be interesting but with such a stacked pool that is just painful.
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I won't be watching, terrible race composition
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I guess i'm the only one really enjoying TvT on a high level 
(gonna rewatch Take's Homestory Cup for Demuslim vs BratOK after this)
Looking forward to see awesome matches in this tournament!!!
edit: aww vod not up
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Not only does imbalance make the game less fun and more frustrating to play, but it also makes it incredibly boring to watch. TvX matchup will get extremely boring after a while. Luckily, Terran has the most options out of all the races as far as doing cool and interesting builds that are viable. Hmmm maybe that's why they're represented so much.
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I think alot of imba early game play from terran can be fixed with better maps, also maybe the patch will come out before the next qualifers so that will give our friendly zerg players a better chance to compete.
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hey look, an other tournament i will not have to bother watching.
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Atleast tvt is balanced right? =]
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Nah, marauders are too good in TvT as well. :D
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Ah finally we'll get to see some high quality PvZ..
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They better make dam sure the "non-Terran" races don't knock each other out.
I wanna see the most biased seeding ever.
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look on the bright side, tvt is the best designed mirror mu (altough after watching so much tvt lately id enjoy watching the other mus more simply because its starting to get too much~ )
wasnt the patch coming this month?
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On September 14 2010 00:50 MorroW wrote:look on the bright side, tvt is the best designed mirror mu (altough after watching so much tvt lately id enjoy watching the other mus more simply because its starting to get too much~ )
Then explain your 83 minutes draw with Brat_ok @ Homecup
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Ok. So one Terran and a Zerg are joining the fight.
- Added SjoW from Sweden and Skruf from Norway to the list of players in qualification round 1
The last chance qualifiers is being played right now and is down to LucifroN, ThorZain, Dark.Force and HasuObs/NightEnd. Only one will qualify.
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Standings:
+ Show Spoiler +Lucifron is already in the final waiting for the winner of Hasuobs vs. Darkforce.
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On September 14 2010 00:50 MorroW wrote:look on the bright side, tvt is the best designed mirror mu (altough after watching so much tvt lately id enjoy watching the other mus more simply because its starting to get too much~ ) wasnt the patch coming this month?
GL for the tourney.
Btw, would you be so kind of tell us if you think that 1.1 patch will address the issues?
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I actually wonder about that to.
People talk about the 1.1 patch that will be like a god-send thing that will balance the MU's completely.
The only thing that I see is that it got harder for Protoss early game.
And in ZvT
A siege tank with +1 will always one shot lings + blings, wich are basicly the only unit affected by the change in that MU (and ye hydra's, but come on, hydra's in ZvT?).
But would be nice to hear someone good his opinion on this :p
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On September 14 2010 05:03 Icx wrote:
I actually wonder about that to.
People talk about the 1.1 patch that will be like a god-send thing that will balance the MU's completely.
The only thing that I see is that it got harder for Protoss early game.
And in ZvT
A siege tank with +1 will always one shot lings + blings, wich are basicly the only unit affected by the change in that MU (and ye hydra's, but come on, hydra's in ZvT?).
But would be nice to hear someone good his opinion on this :p
no1 thinks 1.1 will change anything....
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On September 14 2010 05:04 kickinhead wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2010 05:03 Icx wrote:
I actually wonder about that to.
People talk about the 1.1 patch that will be like a god-send thing that will balance the MU's completely.
The only thing that I see is that it got harder for Protoss early game.
And in ZvT
A siege tank with +1 will always one shot lings + blings, wich are basicly the only unit affected by the change in that MU (and ye hydra's, but come on, hydra's in ZvT?).
But would be nice to hear someone good his opinion on this :p no1 thinks 1.1 will change anything....
IdrA does....
It's the logical beginning of balancing the game. Sort out the early game then we can see what happens to the midgame.
On same maps Zergs will be able to go hatch first again... this is a BIG difference.
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I think if we're going to have the round of 16 be all TvTs we should disallow usage of the following units:
- Marauder
- Siege Tank
- Battlecruisers
Would make the matchups far more fun. Imagine someone going Raven and get HSM and actually using it for the greater good.
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So... when does this IEM start?
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StarCraft II
Deadline National Qualifier: September 12th
International QR1: 20th - 26th September
International QR2: 4th - 17th October
Regular Season starts: October 25th
Regular Season ends: November 28th
Relegation starts: December 6th
Relegation ends: December 19th
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Semi-OT, but has anyone noticed how there's almost a regional divide of races right now?
EU events seems to have an overwhelming # of Terran players
NA events have a very strong Protoss representation
Korea has a strong zerg population (actually more myth than fact, but still)
Kinda interesting how it's developing.
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Some semi-old school names on this list. Draco, GoOdy, NTT. All represented their countries in WCG Brood War in the past if i remember correctly.
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- Added HasuObs to the list of players in the qualification round 1. He won the last chance qualifiers cup after beating LucifroN in the finals.
I guess the list of final now and these are the players we will be seeing in the European Championship.
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On September 13 2010 21:09 Flicky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 20:52 GenoZStriker wrote:
- Fixed Ourk's race from Zerg to Terran.
SaJer is not LucifroN. He is a totally different person. Plays for team Wizard.
NightEnd lost in the first round of the qualifiers. Well who the hell are these guys and how did they get straight seeded into the finals. I've never heard of either of them and my forte on Liquipedia is knowing who players are. If they just waddled through their country's qualification and got seeded on the Back of one successful player from their country... I dunno, that doesn't sound right.
wizards.SaJeR is an old school BW spanish player who started to play Sc2 after launch, and he is doing pretty impresive lately
wizards.Ethan is the new blood of spanish rts players
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On September 13 2010 21:39 LaLuSh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 21:09 Flicky wrote:On September 13 2010 20:52 GenoZStriker wrote:
- Fixed Ourk's race from Zerg to Terran.
SaJer is not LucifroN. He is a totally different person. Plays for team Wizard.
NightEnd lost in the first round of the qualifiers. Well who the hell are these guys and how did they get straight seeded into the finals. I've never heard of either of them and my forte on Liquipedia is knowing who players are. If they just waddled through their country's qualification and got seeded on the Back of one successful player from their country... I dunno, that doesn't sound right. Who are they? Random terran scrubs with 60apm and no multitasking coming out of nowhere. + Show Spoiler +Let's keep telling ourselves there's nothing wrong with the game. There will surely be new tricks and strategies in the future to differentiate good players from bad. + Show Spoiler +And they will magically appear out of nowhere
It's true. You never see a Zerg "talent". Only DIMAGA can compete with EU Terrans because his skill level is much higher than the Terrans. It shouldn't have to be like that.
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On September 13 2010 18:18 Cranberries wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 18:00 kickinhead wrote:
wow, almost no Z and, even weirder - not that many Protoss.... You're surprised at the lack of Protoss? Protoss gets absolutely smashed by Terran.
It cracks me up how P players whine about PvT.
To Z players, you look like a fool.
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Such a great list of players
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On September 14 2010 09:14 Fantistic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 18:18 Cranberries wrote:On September 13 2010 18:00 kickinhead wrote:
wow, almost no Z and, even weirder - not that many Protoss.... You're surprised at the lack of Protoss? Protoss gets absolutely smashed by Terran. It cracks me up how P players whine about PvT. To Z players, you look like a fool.
take a look at GSL and how many of each race are out
its not a proof for terran beeing imba, but actually its hard to find _any_ statistic that doesnt favor T
whether its tournament wins by race
ladderranking
number of t/z/p in tournaments that requires qualification
and much more
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Here is hoping Socke and Dimaga do well as i consider them to be the most exciting SC2 players around
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Jesus, so many Terrans. I hope the zergs do well just to spit in the face of this overwhelming terran imbalance.
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