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FearDarkness
Profile Joined February 2009
United States519 Posts
September 05 2010 22:48 GMT
#41
It's also a good idea just in case Blizzard feels overconfident with their ladder system that they invite the top 3 from every division or top 100 rating for a tourney or something stupid.
Can't spell Voidrays without Idra
sircuddles
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada91 Posts
September 06 2010 03:36 GMT
#42
There's really no reason to not have multiple ladders for multiple races. Your skill level as X race is not going to be the same as Y race, ergo you should get a different ranking. Not sure how anyone could actually argue against this being implemented. If it already was, there certainly wouldn't be a 'Same ladder ranking for all races?' thread.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-06 17:06:28
September 06 2010 17:06 GMT
#43
This thread needs more love
Vysage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States117 Posts
September 06 2010 17:43 GMT
#44
I strongly agree with this feature. It doesn't even have to be a separate account; simply separate your points/ranks by races. When you'd select your race for 1v1 ladder matches, your league thing would change accordingly. Maybe adding some info to your profiles that shows records of all race progress. I'd still rather another account, but if that won't ever be implemented, I can see this working out.
Seraph.yongweihua
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada224 Posts
September 06 2010 17:45 GMT
#45
I also agree with seperate stats for seperate races. Blizz will never do this, but still, it's a good idea.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
September 06 2010 17:48 GMT
#46
It does kinda suck. I want to try out laddering with P/Z but since my offraces are so bad I wouldn't be able to play good games at my main race level.
Hunch
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada336 Posts
September 06 2010 17:50 GMT
#47
though i agree with this i also agree that playing the game is playing all 3/4 races, not just 1 or 1/3 of the game.
I have a Hunch.770
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 06 2010 18:03 GMT
#48
It really isn't so bad. If you're in plat doing well, you'll be playing vs mostly diamonds. If you have a losing streak of like 5 games, you'll start playing vs other plats, then golds, and then even Silvers. You should be able to get to an even match even with your worst race after just a few losses.
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vOddy
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden402 Posts
September 06 2010 18:05 GMT
#49
I agree with the original post. Switchinig to Zerg was fucking painful T_T my winrate is down to 53%, and in the beginning it cost me about 200 - 300 points.
"You generate awesomeness. It just flows from you."
fiskrens
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden196 Posts
September 06 2010 18:09 GMT
#50
How about a poll?

I do agree though. I would play a lot more ladder games as other races and generally have more fun if they implemented this.
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
September 06 2010 18:10 GMT
#51
yes, i think so 100%

and if ur say, a highly ranked player in diamond say, 1400 pts. within ur first 10-20 games of playing a new race u would already be facing players who are a fair challenge. ive made new accounts with trial keys and cracked out 15 games in a day, and by the end of the day i was facing 1100+ diamond players on a fresh account with only 15 games played
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
September 06 2010 18:13 GMT
#52
On September 07 2010 03:05 vOddy wrote:
I agree with the original post. Switchinig to Zerg was fucking painful T_T my winrate is down to 53%, and in the beginning it cost me about 200 - 300 points.


and so what?

What does it matter if you lose several hundred points when you switch races...the ladder rankings don't really matter as it stands.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
leve15
Profile Joined August 2010
United States301 Posts
September 06 2010 18:16 GMT
#53
noobs pick their race anyways, who cares?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 06 2010 18:20 GMT
#54
The timing of this thread is exactly the issue Im having right now...
I've had a 66% win rate as zerg until I got 50... now i want to do the same with protoss, but the level is too damn high for someone blind, as you said.
A good suggestion is to practice mechanics and macro and stuff in 2v2s, not ruining your stats. Watch a few replays, and start soloing.
This helps, but isn't the solution. I went 0/7 with toss, MAJOR losing streak, now I'm 5/12, so if you really care about rating, best not switch as of now.
Twaxter
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada190 Posts
September 06 2010 18:22 GMT
#55
I`d like that, but its not there.

I want to play all 3 races, but if I play random on diamond, I will get screwed.
Lose and Learn
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
September 06 2010 18:24 GMT
#56
On September 07 2010 03:13 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 03:05 vOddy wrote:
I agree with the original post. Switchinig to Zerg was fucking painful T_T my winrate is down to 53%, and in the beginning it cost me about 200 - 300 points.


and so what?

What does it matter if you lose several hundred points when you switch races...the ladder rankings don't really matter as it stands.


It DOES matter. Just because you want to have some fun playing your off races doesn't mean you want to have to lose a bunch of one sided games to finally play people that are your off race level. Then when you want to play your main you have to battle back up through people way beneath your skill?

That is not a good system at all.
volkar
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany27 Posts
September 06 2010 18:24 GMT
#57
There is an easy way to do this ...

play 2v2/3v3/4v4 with your off race ... won't make u as good as ur main race but
u won't fall deep, if this is your concern. I was plat terran switched to toss few weeks ago for 4v4, dropped to gold in 1v1 as toss and now with a litte practice i am plat again and doing fine.

And i know 2v2/3v3/4v4 game dynamics are very different to 1v1, but it'll help u get started.
GagnarTheUnruly
Profile Joined July 2010
United States655 Posts
September 06 2010 18:32 GMT
#58
I also wish there was a separate ranking (at least hidden) for each race. It would be nice to be able to play off-race and not get face stomped, or dropping your MMR so low that you crush with your good race. Besides, I care about my ranking. I want to be able to get into diamond with my good race, and I'll ruin my chances if I start playing off-race or random.
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
September 06 2010 18:36 GMT
#59
On September 06 2010 07:33 lindn wrote:
solution to the problem:

1. get a pracc partner
2. pracc with him
3. ???
4. start playing league matches with that race once you feel comfortable with them.

i myself don't care about rating since all it does is put me in games against people of equal skill. played a bunch o terran games and it went fine as long as i knew what to do


I dunno, the guys who I practice with would play 1-2 games with me at most before moving onto something else, thus you need a shit ton of practice partners to actually get any decent practicing time. Custom games just don't work for practice purposes thanks to blizzard going all social on bnet 0.2 and I'm sure this won't change anytime soon. So yeah, we need this different-ladder-for-each-race idea implemented ASAP.
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cHaNg-sTa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1058 Posts
September 06 2010 18:48 GMT
#60
1. Play Random
2. Play Random more
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!!
Jaedong <3 HOOK'EM HORNS!
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