• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:34
CEST 22:34
KST 05:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?59Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)8Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!40Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL: II Winner Will Earn a Spot at HSC 30! Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) September World Ranking: herO leads, Serral climbs
Tourneys
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly SC2 INu's Battles#20 [BO.9] 2026 GSTL Announcement Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 Brood War in Budapest ! WORTEX 2026 BW Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV EVE Corporation [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4206 users

New Ladder Rating For New Race?

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 Next All
Kyandid
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada124 Posts
September 05 2010 20:31 GMT
#1
Does anyone else think you should have the same 5-qualifying-rounds every time you test out a new race?

I'm by no means a good player. I just hit diamond as terran and wanted to explore the other races a little bit more, but the only option I have right now is either playing blind at a diamond level with a new race (whch will get me crushed) or playing uncoordinated custom games against people from all skill levels.

If we can't smurf at all, this option should atleast exist, imo.
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
September 05 2010 20:32 GMT
#2
I do find it kind of weird that it doesn't separate your T,P,Z,R stats. It makes a lot more sense. I'd be playing a lot of protoss and zerg right now if it weren't tied to my 1v1 rating.
Moktira is da bomb
Laggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States385 Posts
September 05 2010 20:35 GMT
#3
Agreed, I feel that Blizzard should put back the old accounts system except they are all connected to your main account if that makes any sense.
D on iccup stands for diamond in SC2
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
September 05 2010 20:35 GMT
#4
With the way the matchmaker works you'll get crushed a minimal number of times. It gives you easier and easier opponents the longer a losing streak goes on, so you'll find your new level quite quickly.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 20:37:15
September 05 2010 20:35 GMT
#5
It's a statistic. Your 1v1 rating should really not make you choose to only play 1 race. Just play and enjoy.
Life is Good.
tok
Profile Joined April 2010
United States691 Posts
September 05 2010 20:36 GMT
#6
I think they should just allow you to leave a division if you don't want to be in it any more allowing you to try to qualify maybe once every week or so.
HeyitsClay
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada336 Posts
September 05 2010 20:36 GMT
#7
yeah i got this problem, is say just suck it up and learn quick haha but its a tricky thing some people would love diff stats for each race while others wana have em all combine still
ColorsOfRainbow
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany354 Posts
September 05 2010 20:39 GMT
#8
On September 06 2010 05:35 Alou wrote:
It's a statistic. Your 1v1 rating should really not make you choose to only play 1 race. Just play and enjoy.



its just more that i think he means that on diamant he have just NO chance and NO fun play other then his mainrace so he cant play other race for fun just vs underbronze customgames enemys
Meldrath
Profile Joined June 2010
United States620 Posts
September 05 2010 20:39 GMT
#9
I have suggested this several times about people who wanted to play 1v1's with off race implementing seperate ratings for each race wouldnt be very hard.
slap me I must be dreaming another "imba" arugment! fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
September 05 2010 20:43 GMT
#10
On September 06 2010 05:35 Alou wrote:
It's a statistic. Your 1v1 rating should really not make you choose to only play 1 race. Just play and enjoy.



Yeah, thats not really the problem. If he plays twice as many games mainrace as offrace, his games offrace will be way too hard and his mainrace will be way too easy. Neither will be very fun.
White-Ra fighting!
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
September 05 2010 20:45 GMT
#11
On September 06 2010 05:35 Alou wrote:
It's a statistic. Your 1v1 rating should really not make you choose to only play 1 race. Just play and enjoy.

First of all, not everyone can just enjoy and play as you would. It's different for everyone and this change actually makes sense because it shows you your win% with each race and if implemented well, your XvX matchup % which is not only bragging rights if you care but actually shows you how well you're doing in certain matchups.

Second of all, if a person qualifies for diamond but is atrocious at the other races, it would let them ease into different races instead of intentionally losing a bunch of games that are not even competitive in order to go lower.
Moktira is da bomb
ShoeFactory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States186 Posts
September 05 2010 20:47 GMT
#12
If this was possible, I would let my friends play on my account on an off race if they didn't want to pay for the game.

I think this is the reason why blizzard doesn't want to implement it.
Tonttu
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 20:54:08
September 05 2010 20:47 GMT
#13
Same system as it was in Wc3
Separate stats with win/loss/% for each race+random

It works just fine.
I don't care if I have 20-60 with Terran or whatsoever and 100-10 with Zerg
People would mainly just look your main race stats anyway for your "skill"

But what comes for separate ladders for each race, I don't like it :/ It may cost your ladder ranking, but whatever.. :&

So. Stats for each race should be separated, nothing else
Though I like the idea of separate 1v1 2v2 3v3 etc stats
Naama, the #1 Conductor! | Slayers, Fnatic and Mouz | Naama, MMA and ForGG |
sircuddles
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada91 Posts
September 05 2010 20:52 GMT
#14
I find it a bit weird. If I play Terran and stick with Terran to hit Diamond and then decide I want to try Zerg I'm forced to not ladder because clearly I wouldn't be a Diamond level Zerg having never played the race before.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 20:54:29
September 05 2010 20:53 GMT
#15
It is actually better playing blind at the Platinum and Diamond level with a new race. If you're playing Bronze or even Gold players, chances are you'll wreck them just because you have superior mechanics, like keeping your money down. In lower Diamond, you'll be able to practice well, and lose because you were beaten, not win because your opponent is weak.
There is no one like you in the universe.
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
September 05 2010 20:54 GMT
#16
On September 06 2010 05:47 Tonttu wrote:
Same system as it was in Wc3
Separate stats with win/loss/% for each race+random

It works just fine.
I don't care if I have 20-60 with Terran or whatsoever and 100-10 with Zerg
People would mainly just look your main race stats anyway for your "skill"

But what comes for separate ladders for each race, I don't like it :/ It may cost your ladder ranking, but whatever.. :&

So. Stats for each race should be separated, nothing else


Then you get abusers who purposely go 0-100 games with their worst race, to lower their rating, and go 100-0 with their best race bashing newbs.

Its fine how it is, if you want to learn a new race, thats what the 8 hour timecard things are for, otherwise just suck it up and play. I played 30 terran solo games, then 10 random, then now 50+ toss.. who cares.
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
September 05 2010 20:57 GMT
#17
On September 06 2010 05:53 vica wrote:
It is actually better playing blind at the Platinum and Diamond level with a new race. If you're playing Bronze or even Gold players, chances are you'll wreck them just because you have superior mechanics, like keeping your money down. In lower Diamond, you'll be able to practice well, and lose because you were beaten, not win because your opponent is weak.

Yeah this definitely helped when I started playing some Zerg. Knowing when the attacks come (from competent people), and getting to try out countering decent unit compositions is pretty valuable. Still got absolutely stomped at first but you learn plenty.
Bhaalgorn
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia214 Posts
September 05 2010 20:59 GMT
#18
On September 06 2010 05:36 tok wrote:
I think they should just allow you to leave a division if you don't want to be in it any more allowing you to try to qualify maybe once every week or so.

Not sure how newer players would take it if they would constantly get stomped by more experienced players. Don't try to claim people wouldn't do that because you know it would happen and in quite large numbers.



Why not play with friends if you want to try out a different race and not ruin your ratings/be pitted against people who know their race and you don't.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 05 2010 21:49 GMT
#19
Completely agree that you should have separate statistics depending on what race you play.
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
September 05 2010 21:51 GMT
#20
I'd welcome that...
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 26m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech172
JuggernautJason94
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 17565
Shuttle 629
Hyuk 97
firebathero 86
HiyA 62
Pusan 26
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
White-Ra 8
Dota 2
capcasts82
League of Legends
Doublelift1725
Other Games
gofns22275
Grubby2659
fl0m1889
summit1g1278
Beastyqt592
shahzam412
mouzStarbuck241
XaKoH 227
KnowMe216
dupreeh123
ArmadaUGS114
C9.Mang0112
IndyStarCraft 91
Trikslyr52
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1096
StarCraft 2
angryscii 16
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 49
• Azhi_Dahaki35
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV604
Other Games
• imaqtpie1279
• Shiphtur243
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 26m
Rogue vs Cure
Replay Cast
4h 26m
Big Brain Bouts
13h 26m
Garitos vs ArT
Lambo vs Percival
TriGGeR vs ByuN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 13h
OSC
1d 15h
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
1d 18h
Mixu vs TBD
Spirit vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
Patches Events
1d 19h
OSC
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs Shuttle
BeSt vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Leta vs ggaemo
Jaedong vs Queen
GSL
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
Escore
6 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-02
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.