EPTLooks cool and useful, but don't zergs usually move their banelings instead of A-moving ?
"Stalife Drops" - micro trick in tvz - Page 8
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cArn-
Korea (South)824 Posts
Looks cool and useful, but don't zergs usually move their banelings instead of A-moving ? | ||
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TheDna
Germany577 Posts
His last attack was a pretty big mistake just like not scouting at all and not getting anymore mutas. Attack moving banelings was just the tip of the iceberg mistake. This trick could backfire big time if your medivacs get picked off by mutas. Also competent opponents will only attack in such a spot if they can well afford to "loose" alot of blings for marauders or even thors. That being said i guess its kind of a nice trick with ur type of macro playstyle. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
Still props for the quick thinking. | ||
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freshiie22
Canada132 Posts
Like stop being HATERS | ||
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Galleon.frigate
Canada721 Posts
On September 06 2010 10:25 Voyager I wrote: Having watched the replays, I noticed something else. If you can catch the Zerg army without AA (either because he doesn't have any, as in the case of the 2nd replay, or simply because his Mutas are off harassing somewhere else), what's to stop you from simply flying some Medivacs right over them and dropping Marauders directly onto his Banelings? Idle Banelings will auto-attack, so you could get him to waste a lot of units if isn't focusing on his army and doesn't know what's coming. For people asking why this is better than simply having Marauders in front: The answer is splash damage. It takes 7 Banelings to kill a Marauder, but if you have all of your Marauders clumped up in the front of your army, the splash damage will ensure that the Baneling:Marauder ratio will be much lower than that. When you drop, the Marauders land one at a time, eliminating splash damage and maximizing the number of Banelings absorbed. This is what is really to be learned here! people like to mass their banes, and you can drop them anywhere they are as long as there is little aa there. Muta's will be active and if you can pull this off you know you can push right out. | ||
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shalafiend
United States62 Posts
so he shared his micro trick with the community- you should give him props to that although him outright asking for his micro trick to be named stalifes drops sounds like a douche move to me- you need to earn respect/win some tournaments then ask. anyways- concerning everyones arguement that most people MOVE their banelings- instead of A-moving them, please read the ops post again. Use the marauders as forcefields. It buys you time to move your marine force out of the way of the banelings. This is a micro trick people, it does not mean it will win you the game outright; it just MIGHT give you an advantage if you pull it off properly. Sacrificing 4 marauders to "bio forcefield"/ stand in front of a ball of roling banelings in order to stim your marines and run away seems like a pretty good tradeoff to me. Generally- ling/bling/infestor play does not have hydras to snipe your medivac (mutas are generally dead by that time). However cool this trick may be- I believe having marauders in front of your army to tank/block banes will be more effective/easier to micro. Good zerg players have ling/blings to flank- which offers a good opportunity for this trick to be used- given that medivacs are generally in the back. Or just go mech, turtle, cut the map in half with mass siege tanks- while keeping the pressure up w/ constant harass/drops. | ||
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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Voyager I
United States260 Posts
On September 06 2010 12:44 Alou wrote: Fan of Stalife. Although I'm not a fan of naming drops after people. I just can't see a year from now someone doing this and a caster saying "Oh and here comes the Stalife drop"... You need a name that rolls off the tongue for that to be honest. Meh w/e. Cute trick. Life Bomb? | ||
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MarF
Canada156 Posts
On September 06 2010 12:39 shalafiend wrote: give the guy a break so he shared his micro trick with the community- you should give him props to that although him outright asking for his micro trick to be named stalifes drops sounds like a douche move to me- you need to earn respect/win some tournaments then ask. Stalife has won many tournaments... and he was A on iccup ladder Just to clarify because it seems a lot of people haven't heard of him... Stalife is a god | ||
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
You drop it and it causes a big boom. | ||
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KingV
United States97 Posts
Why so much BM, so many people are bringing up new techniques and they don't get this much flaming | ||
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Kinks
Canada17 Posts
On September 06 2010 12:52 Tsagacity wrote: "Marauder bomb" should be the obvious thing to call it--just like "zealot bomb" or "baneling bomb" You drop it and it causes a big boom. In honor of my brother from another mother giving his life to save us, I would propose we name this the "brother bomb" | ||
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ThE.SparkZ
United States381 Posts
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On September 06 2010 12:44 Alou wrote: You need a name that rolls off the tongue for that to be honest. Just like mandelbauming workers? Personally I think naming naming any move after a player is dumb. Are you going to start White-Ra-ing your proxy stargate? Or one base HuK-ing? Maybe we could start TLO-ing battlecruisers... I think this whole thread has gotten completely silly. Yes, it is a sweet micro trick and big props to the OP for working this out. However, at the end of the day it's a micro trick that is only useful in specific instances. I think an 8+ page thread about what to call it and rampant flaming of a good player is stupid. Sure the OP may have been a bit over assertive in suggesting that we name it after him, but if you don't like it then don't call it that. Though I do recommend that we call it one base HuK-ing.... | ||
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PangO
Chile1870 Posts
" Stalife Bomb " ? | ||
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GeorgeForeman
United States1746 Posts
On September 06 2010 13:03 ThE.SparkZ wrote: Congrats on something that was discovered in brood war. GOOD JOB. Ya, those baneling were a bitch back in BW. OP- Nice find! It's certainly not a hard counter for banlings (as so many previous posters have gone out of their way to point out), but it's a nice way to counter irresponsible players and generally make zergs micro a bit more. Not sure about the results at the highest level of play, but for most of us ladder-dwellers, I'm sure we'll find it useful. I've always been of the opinion that the biggest weakness of the mass-reaper openings is that there's no logical transition beyond mass bio, which banlings will generally beat for cost. I'll try adding the stalife drop to my arsenal and see how it goes. Thanks! | ||
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djcube
United States985 Posts
It's a bit condescending to name a tactic, which isn't even completely original in its roots, after yourself, when even progamers didn't do this type of thing in bw. I mean, you don't hear anyone calling muta stacking, "Shark stacking." Obviously we hear things like "bisu build," "fantasy build," "flash build," etc, but these are just names that *foreigner* fans have labeled. You don't hear Korean commentators using these names at all. | ||
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starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
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CheAse
Canada919 Posts
Stalife is probably the most modest, nice guy i've ever met. Hes the last person who deserves all of these angry nerds hate. | ||
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