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Hi guys, I don't think I've seen any terran players do this little trick in tvz. So I'd like to name it after myself. (I always wanted to have some move named after me :D)
In midgame tvz, when terran goes mmm, zerg goes infestor, ling, banelings, mutalisks. Usually, the marines do the most damage with their high dps. But banelings are extremely effective against marines. The marauders need to soak up damage, but it can be hard to pull off when infestors fungal growth you and can't micro marines back.
Basically in "Stalife drop", you load up marauders in medivacs and drop them in between lings/banelings so the marines can kill the zerglings, while the marauders soak up the damage from banelings. This really punishes zergs who do not micro properly with banelings. as well as marauders forming a wall (acting as force fields to split up zerg army).
I have uploaded two replays that magnifies the effectiveness of the "Stalife drops".
PS. if someone could kindly make a youtube video of this little micro trick, it'd be great ! :D
EDIT: Advantage of using this micro:
- marauders act as force fields in between the zerglings and the banelings, splitting up zerg's army.
- once the marauders are dropped, they target the banelings, and with concussive shells, they slow down the banelings, further splitting the army for easy kills with marines.
- zerg players do not know you have marauders in your medivacs, it'll certainly catch some zerg players off guard
- yes, I realize "90% of zergs would not 1a and move them", but with the slow down of banelings, it certainly makes a huge different in battles. (see my replay vs bubba for game-deciding battle)
Note that this is better than having marauders as a wall in front of your army because marauders will shoot zerglings and slow them down, NOT the banelings.
EDIT #2:
To those who mentioned fungal growth'ing the medivacs, normally the top zergs would not FG the medivacs unless they're clumped with marines. FG do cost 75 energy and it's WAY more useful to use them on marines than on medivacs. If infestors do FG the medivacs, then they'll have less or no energy to FG your marines, thus enabling you to kite the zergling/banelings.
I appreciate the people giving constructive criticism, questioning the usefulness and exactly how this will prove effective. This really does work and perhaps I'm not at the top level, but it surely worked at 1300+ diamond level.
I do realize the name is not so easy to say it fast. How about Stalife's "star drops"? so you guys don't have to add in my name, and "star drops" sound little better :D
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It seems pretty difficult to do when you could just position your marauders in front of the marines
Edit: Since he had the air, could you load marine up instead of dropping marauders if he tried to overlord drop your marines?
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Really creative nice find!! These stalife drops could play a huge part of tvz baneling vs marines.
I'll be trying to use this strat in my tvz =)
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Can you load things into medivacs when you are fungal growthed? Could you pick up your marines that are immobilized when the banelings start rolling through? Similar to what you're doing except pick up marines instead of drop marauders. I don't play zerg or terran so I don't know these things. Just wondering.
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You can't load things in medivac when they're fungal growthed. That's what makes fungal growth that much stronger.
It's not the same as putting marauders in front. An analogy would be putting force fields in front of the zerglings, and in between the zerglings/banelings.
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On September 05 2010 11:17 stalife wrote:
You can't load things in medivac when they're fungal growthed. That's what makes fungal growth that much stronger.
It's not the same as putting marauders in front. An analogy would be putting force fields in front of the zerglings, and in between the zerglings/banelings.
Ok thanks for the answer. Good to know.
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Ya it worked well on me  I wasn't paying attention and all my banelings just kamikazeed on his marauders. It's easy to avoid if you just pay attention and micro ur banelings but if you're like me and just 1a sometimes then it def works well 
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i love how you are trying to promote yourself with this joke of a micro trick. please stop while your ahead, and any zerg that has an even the smallest bit of micro is going to be able to avoid this. but if you play in a lower league, anything is possible- even a mother ship rush.
Basically i just don't understand why you would want to keep your medivacs out of position and healing range of your army....
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On September 05 2010 11:36 Ramiel wrote:
i love how you are trying to promote yourself with this joke of a micro trick. please stop while your ahead, and any zerg that has an even the smallest bit of micro is going to be able to avoid this. but if you play in a lower league, anything is possible- even a mother ship rush.
Basically i just don't understand why you would want to keep your medivacs out of position and healing range of your army....
Without the BM, i also don't understand this "trick."
Why don't you just keep your marauders standing in front of your marines? What is the point of loading them up and then dropping them..
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On September 05 2010 11:36 Ramiel wrote:
i love how you are trying to promote yourself with this joke of a micro trick. please stop while your ahead, and any zerg that has an even the smallest bit of micro is going to be able to avoid this. but if you play in a lower league, anything is possible- even a mother ship rush.
Basically i just don't understand why you would want to keep your medivacs out of position and healing range of your army....
Because if his units are dead, they can't be healed?
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Yeah Stalife, why don't you get into a real league and then come back to the boards?
Oh wait...
Pretty cool, and OF COURSE it can be microed around. Micro tricks are to give you an advantage and force your opponent to micro as well as or better than you.
Edit: If the zerg doesn't A-move his banelings, it won't work as well, but still adds extra congestion to the banelings trying to get through.
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On September 05 2010 11:36 Ramiel wrote:
i love how you are trying to promote yourself with this joke of a micro trick. please stop while your ahead, and any zerg that has an even the smallest bit of micro is going to be able to avoid this. but if you play in a lower league, anything is possible- even a mother ship rush.
Basically i just don't understand why you would want to keep your medivacs out of position and healing range of your army....
stfu clown, Stalife is the most mannered guy ever. also, mothership rushes work against top level players.
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On September 05 2010 11:36 Ramiel wrote:
i love how you are trying to promote yourself with this joke of a micro trick. please stop while your ahead, and any zerg that has an even the smallest bit of micro is going to be able to avoid this. but if you play in a lower league, anything is possible- even a mother ship rush.
Basically i just don't understand why you would want to keep your medivacs out of position and healing range of your army....
you know that's a pretty rude comment. That aside, yea zvt is a hard matchup at the moment for more reason than tanks and reapers.
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nice trick, but honestly, you should get over yourself. most micro tricks don't get named after anyone specific--Fazing was, but thats just because there's not really a good shorthand to describe that action, and his name lends itself naturally to something like that. You didn't see Psy asking that people call magic boxing "psy boxing" did you? Nobody named muta stacking after anyone in BW, even though obviously someone had to come up with it first.
and honestly, if you do want something named after you, pick a screenname that lends itself more naturally to being turned into a verb. "Stalifing" or whatever really doesn't roll off the tongue.
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On September 05 2010 11:41 awesomoecalypse wrote:
nice trick, but honestly, you should get over yourself. most micro tricks don't get named after anyone specific--Fazing was, but thats just because there's not really a good shorthand to describe that action, and his name lends itself naturally to something like that. You didn't see Psy asking that people call magic boxing "psy boxing" did you? Nobody named muta stacking after anyone in BW, even though obviously someone had to come up with it first.
and honestly, if you do want something named after you, pick a screenname that lends itself more naturally to being turned into a verb. "Stalifing" or whatever really doesn't roll off the tongue.
Ehhhh, Drewbie drops are named after drewbie. Psy didnt first post about psy boxing he's the one that brought it to peoples attention after someone else posted a thread and it didn't get remarked on until Idra used it.
Whats wrong with coming up with a cool idea and saying hey this was fun maybe remember me when you try it.
EDIT: at the guy below me hit D for unload all and click on the medivac, you have to hit D and click on each medivac individually but that's how you do.
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how do you drop units while moving in a medivac i see everyone do it but i dunno how
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On September 05 2010 11:42 illumination wrote:how do you drop units while moving in a medivac i see everyone do it but i dunno how
right click where you want the medivac to go
with the medivac selected, left click the units out and they should drop while the medivac continues to fly towards its destination
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Almost all zerg players use the move command on banelings rather than a move though. And I don't think the medvac can heal your units while it's moving and dropping.
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On September 05 2010 11:44 billyX333 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2010 11:42 illumination wrote:how do you drop units while moving in a medivac i see everyone do it but i dunno how right click where you want the medivac to go with the medivac selected, left click the units out and they should drop while the medivac continues to fly towards its destination
Read my edit please it's wayyyyyy easier than that save yourself a lot of time and effort.
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On September 05 2010 11:45 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2010 11:44 billyX333 wrote:On September 05 2010 11:42 illumination wrote:how do you drop units while moving in a medivac i see everyone do it but i dunno how right click where you want the medivac to go with the medivac selected, left click the units out and they should drop while the medivac continues to fly towards its destination Read my edit please it's wayyyyyy easier than that save yourself a lot of time and effort.
thank you kind sir i think that method may be better than just plain unloading in certain situations
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