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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
September 03 2010 08:39 GMT
#61
man there really is an iPhone app for everything
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Nimbal
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany26 Posts
September 03 2010 08:53 GMT
#62
On September 02 2010 10:47 noD wrote:
port it to android phones o/

My thoughts exactly :-)

But from the screenshots, it looks nice.
Thaddaeus
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany107 Posts
September 03 2010 10:15 GMT
#63
On September 03 2010 01:52 Nilaus wrote:
Looks great except for one feature: The price tag.

I know that you've put a lot of effort into this and I would probably use such an applicaiton, if it wasn't for the price tag.

There is no way of knowing if the app is worth anything before you shell out the cash. If you made a free app with the limitation that you could only store 5 or so build orders, then you could get people hooked on the free version, which is obviously not enough but does show the feel of the app.

EDIT: It's not that I don't want to pay for it, but there is no reason for a developer to provide a good piece of software when the customer pays up front and you have no follow up sales.


Yes sums it up pretty good.

Especially if you have access to Web solutions via any phone a price of 1,99 is to much from my point of view.
Dont get me wrong. I also buy Apps for 10 € or even 45 € but i "demand" some way to test it priorly and if im going to spend money i need to know thaat the App fullfills my needs.
Another way would maybe be to lower the price to lets say 79 cent (think of the possible audience you can reach with SC2 if you make a good app), or maybe do a promo time where you give the app away for free. After some time and when the app shows off as very good, just establish a price (like 0,79).

Keep up the work and lower the price. It will pay off. Trust me.
im fine :)
Thaddaeus
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany107 Posts
September 03 2010 10:16 GMT
#64
On September 03 2010 01:33 edwin23 wrote:
let me know when this is out for the ipad. i'd try it


Is there any app that runs on an iphone but not an the ipad? Or do you have an IpOd ?
im fine :)
flekoun
Profile Joined September 2010
Czech Republic5 Posts
September 03 2010 11:03 GMT
#65
You are selling this on Apple store??? Are you joking? Do you have copyrights form Bliizard to use their graphics? Please prove you have copyright from Blizzard or you are breaking the laws and you have just simply stolen their graphics. Unbealiveable.
Divine_
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden115 Posts
September 03 2010 11:35 GMT
#66
I'd pay 2 bucks to have this on Android !
Maniac _ DivinE _ deluxE
Drimacus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany92 Posts
September 03 2010 12:27 GMT
#67
It's okay to sell the APP, he's not selling the graphics. He's selling the code/effort of the app.

BTW. There is already an Android Build Order App
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 12:54:16
September 03 2010 12:29 GMT
#68
Woah awesome app, thx a lot! I've been writing BO's to notepad... =P
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saefmate
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom6 Posts
September 03 2010 12:39 GMT
#69
i'd recommend to my friends only if i can try it first
flekoun
Profile Joined September 2010
Czech Republic5 Posts
September 03 2010 12:54 GMT
#70
On September 03 2010 21:27 Drimacus wrote:
It's okay to sell the APP, he's not selling the graphics. He's selling the code/effort of the app.

BTW. There is already an Android Build Order App


You cant be serious. You can not use copyrighted graphics for your commercial purpouses! Even if the program is for free you can't just stole the graphics and use it in your product. I am going to contatct Apple and Blizzard support if the creator of this app dont prove the origin of his graphics.

Its like if I would take all best Metallica songs and put it into my new game.....I am not selling the music I am selling code/effort of the app.....LOL..hilarious.
virusak
Profile Joined December 2009
Czech Republic344 Posts
September 03 2010 13:06 GMT
#71
the app looks nice, but paying without trying pushes me towards not trying at all, also will you upgrade it accordint to sc2 updates so every build times are correct at all times?
Apocalyptic
Profile Joined July 2010
United States131 Posts
September 03 2010 13:12 GMT
#72
On September 03 2010 21:54 flekoun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 21:27 Drimacus wrote:
It's okay to sell the APP, he's not selling the graphics. He's selling the code/effort of the app.

BTW. There is already an Android Build Order App


You cant be serious. You can not use copyrighted graphics for your commercial purpouses! Even if the program is for free you can't just stole the graphics and use it in your product. I am going to contatct Apple and Blizzard support if the creator of this app dont prove the origin of his graphics.

Its like if I would take all best Metallica songs and put it into my new game.....I am not selling the music I am selling code/effort of the app.....LOL..hilarious.



Its true, sadly what the OP is doing is illegal IMO. Still, I think I will spend the $2 to pick this app up, it will be worth it even if no more works goes into this app. It looks great!
"Some people are like a slinky, not really good for anything but they still manage to bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs"
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
September 03 2010 13:16 GMT
#73
Isnt this bordering on cheating?
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
September 03 2010 15:08 GMT
#74
Oh it's definitely illegal to use those images without Blizzard's consent. The question is whether or not this app will make enough money for Blizzard to care to come after the creator for their cut OR if Blizzard thinks this app makes them look bad by possible confusing people into thinking it is a Blizzard product and they have it removed.
DarQraven
Profile Joined January 2010
Netherlands553 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 16:01:53
September 03 2010 16:01 GMT
#75
On September 04 2010 00:08 Zzoram wrote:
Oh it's definitely illegal to use those images without Blizzard's consent. The question is whether or not this app will make enough money for Blizzard to care to come after the creator for their cut OR if Blizzard thinks this app makes them look bad by possible confusing people into thinking it is a Blizzard product and they have it removed.


Let's see. App sells estimated 1000 times, 2000 dollars.
Blizzard/Apple lawyer hourly wage .... nevermind.
Won't get taken down.

That said, while it might be a handy app for practicing BO's that you don't know yet, you'll be better off if you just learn them by heart right away or just write them on a piece of paper.
For $2.00, you can buy two lined college blocks and a 5-pack of ballpoints. That can store more BO's and timings than this app ever will, plus you could hardly argue that it's cheating.

My advice: You need to 'feel' a build order to be succesful with it (to be able to make adjustments on the fly). Hearing an audio cue and working from that is counterproductive.
tehelsper
Profile Joined August 2010
United States19 Posts
September 03 2010 17:26 GMT
#76
On September 03 2010 19:15 Thaddaeus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 01:52 Nilaus wrote:
Looks great except for one feature: The price tag.

I know that you've put a lot of effort into this and I would probably use such an applicaiton, if it wasn't for the price tag.

There is no way of knowing if the app is worth anything before you shell out the cash. If you made a free app with the limitation that you could only store 5 or so build orders, then you could get people hooked on the free version, which is obviously not enough but does show the feel of the app.

EDIT: It's not that I don't want to pay for it, but there is no reason for a developer to provide a good piece of software when the customer pays up front and you have no follow up sales.


Yes sums it up pretty good.

Especially if you have access to Web solutions via any phone a price of 1,99 is to much from my point of view.
Dont get me wrong. I also buy Apps for 10 € or even 45 € but i "demand" some way to test it priorly and if im going to spend money i need to know thaat the App fullfills my needs.
Another way would maybe be to lower the price to lets say 79 cent (think of the possible audience you can reach with SC2 if you make a good app), or maybe do a promo time where you give the app away for free. After some time and when the app shows off as very good, just establish a price (like 0,79).

Keep up the work and lower the price. It will pay off. Trust me.


You'll spend more on coffee today. ;-) A one dollar difference does not make much difference in terms of the number of sales.

Also, It was $.99 for the first two days, and free for the last 12 hours of day two. I could not post on TL yet because I had just made the account.

Also, blame the testing on Apple. Android has a much better "try for 24 hours and get a refund" policy.
tehelsper
Profile Joined August 2010
United States19 Posts
September 03 2010 17:35 GMT
#77
On September 04 2010 01:01 DarQraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 00:08 Zzoram wrote:
Oh it's definitely illegal to use those images without Blizzard's consent. The question is whether or not this app will make enough money for Blizzard to care to come after the creator for their cut OR if Blizzard thinks this app makes them look bad by possible confusing people into thinking it is a Blizzard product and they have it removed.


Let's see. App sells estimated 1000 times, 2000 dollars.
Blizzard/Apple lawyer hourly wage .... nevermind.
Won't get taken down.

That said, while it might be a handy app for practicing BO's that you don't know yet, you'll be better off if you just learn them by heart right away or just write them on a piece of paper.
For $2.00, you can buy two lined college blocks and a 5-pack of ballpoints. That can store more BO's and timings than this app ever will, plus you could hardly argue that it's cheating.

My advice: You need to 'feel' a build order to be succesful with it (to be able to make adjustments on the fly). Hearing an audio cue and working from that is counterproductive.


64 GB phone = 64,000,000 KB
64,000,000 / ~10 KB per build order with notes = 6,400,000

I know the OS and everything takes up space and 64 gigs is more like 55 after conversion and formatting... but I dont know if you wanna write that many build orders down. ;-)
DarQraven
Profile Joined January 2010
Netherlands553 Posts
September 04 2010 00:52 GMT
#78
On September 04 2010 02:35 tehelsper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 01:01 DarQraven wrote:
On September 04 2010 00:08 Zzoram wrote:
Oh it's definitely illegal to use those images without Blizzard's consent. The question is whether or not this app will make enough money for Blizzard to care to come after the creator for their cut OR if Blizzard thinks this app makes them look bad by possible confusing people into thinking it is a Blizzard product and they have it removed.


Let's see. App sells estimated 1000 times, 2000 dollars.
Blizzard/Apple lawyer hourly wage .... nevermind.
Won't get taken down.

That said, while it might be a handy app for practicing BO's that you don't know yet, you'll be better off if you just learn them by heart right away or just write them on a piece of paper.
For $2.00, you can buy two lined college blocks and a 5-pack of ballpoints. That can store more BO's and timings than this app ever will, plus you could hardly argue that it's cheating.

My advice: You need to 'feel' a build order to be succesful with it (to be able to make adjustments on the fly). Hearing an audio cue and working from that is counterproductive.


64 GB phone = 64,000,000 KB
64,000,000 / ~10 KB per build order with notes = 6,400,000

I know the OS and everything takes up space and 64 gigs is more like 55 after conversion and formatting... but I dont know if you wanna write that many build orders down. ;-)


You can draw building placement on paper. HA!
Castaface
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland34 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 01:14:53
September 04 2010 01:05 GMT
#79
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tehelsper
Profile Joined August 2010
United States19 Posts
September 04 2010 01:13 GMT
#80
On September 04 2010 10:05 Castaface wrote:
[image loading]

Check out the whole comic here: http://theoatmeal.com/blog/apps


Haha, one of my friends showed that comic to me the other day. I think it has become my favorite.
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