EPTI also felt robbed of a proper final...I'm sorry but the concept that a final can be played with a player having a defecit or set advantage is not a proper final...
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Affluenza
United Kingdom214 Posts
I also felt robbed of a proper final...I'm sorry but the concept that a final can be played with a player having a defecit or set advantage is not a proper final... | ||
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MisterPuppy
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phamou
Canada193 Posts
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cornwell1961
Afghanistan56 Posts
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
On August 29 2010 22:34 kickinhead wrote: The Players weren't as good as in the IEM and there were too many boring MU's like PvP. Also, there were nearly no Zergs... I liked the commentary, also the ones by HD and Husky and I didn't mind the more LAN-like rather than big Showmatch-Style approach... Indeed there weren't any zergs, but I don't think you can blame the organizers for that. Although most people hated it, I think it was nice to have 4 commentators switching between games. | ||
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Avrithor
United States41 Posts
- HD/Husky have been debated to death on TL, suffice it to say that HD's admission that he plays 1 ladder game per week sums up my thoughts on that. - I think the map introduction videos were a fantastic idea. Obviously everyone on this site knows what's up with the maps but considering you have lots of Halo players, Tekken players, etc and would like to reach out to a wider audience, I think this is something you need to keep up. However, the Blizzard maps are fairly terrible and IMO bringing in some better maps would make for a much better event. The iCCup mapmaking team is doing good work, unless your partnership with Blizzard stipulates you must use official maps only I would take a look at that. - JP, your makeup in particular looked strange on the stream. It seemed like you were too pale and possibly wearing lipstick. Maybe have your makeup people adjust for next time. :3 - Quality of the free stream was fine once it worked, I had no issues seeing what was going on. The only issue was the in-game being too dark on day 1, but it seemed like that was fixed on day 2. - More interviews! Along with switching up the casting pair, having whoever wasn't casting down on the floor talking to the players made it truly seem like you were all a pro casting team and not just SC nerds who got invited to yak into headsets. And of course it's great to hear from the players. - At some point once there's a solid history of SC2 events, you may consider nerding out enough to put up player stats before/after matches similar to how OSL broadcasts do it. For example you could show last 10 games and W/L% before the game (TLPD has this data), and resources/units killed/average APM/etc after the game. | ||
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debasers
737 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
Group stages followed by singel elimination is the way to go. Why does MLG use double elimination? | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
Please JP, would love to hear the stats about the event when you guys get them. Heard the alerts stream talking about the SC2 stream being one of the most successful MLG streams of all time. Would love to hear the stats about approx how many HD passes, views, in-person ticket passes that the SC2 community was able to suck up. Want to be even more proud of our community! Good work MLG and ggs! | ||
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DarkspearTribe
568 Posts
On August 29 2010 22:37 Affluenza wrote: I hate the format...double elimination is poor format. I also felt robbed of a proper final...I'm sorry but the concept that a final can be played with a player having a defecit or set advantage is not a proper final... Every format has it's cons and pros. Get over it | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
Some way of getting rid of the bad players before casting would be nice too. That sounds asshole-ish but there's no fun in watching some random vs a good player. Some way of cutting the field in half right away would do wonders for the quality of games I think, rather than random player vs good player, then random players clogging up the loser bracket. | ||
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Ohdamn
Germany765 Posts
On August 29 2010 22:13 mortar wrote: I felt the HD stream wasn't really worth it. Quality wasn't as good as I hoped for. (I'm aware of the preview.) QFT the ingame quality...wtf... it was SOO dark the difference between non-HD and HD was too little also the quality difference between ingame and the rest was just HUGE it seemed like HD only worked for the commentator/interview stuff and as soon as it goes ingame...omg for 10$ that's just...bad anyone else noticed that? | ||
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shrinkmaster
Germany947 Posts
* More interviews and overall more event coverage. * HD stream is expensive (10$ for weekend, esl had 10€(?) for one month). Would have still purchased, but i won' spend money if i can only watch half of the games, because i can't stand some of your casters. For deep ingame and out of game analysis HD and Huskey's skills are lacking and other casters also provide better entertainment imho. Day9 and JP were great! * Looser bracket is just bad * More data on the players would be great to show before the actual games. Like Win/Loss percentage, Matchup history etc. Of couse this would only be doable when more SC2 events were played. * I liked the commercials at IEM a lot more than your commercials. More gaming related commercials or movie trailers etc would be great. | ||
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Fzero
United States1503 Posts
1) I don't think it is beyond the capabilities of MLG to have someone conducting interviews with players in off/non-tournament hours. Playing some of those videos during the "vamp" time would be much more desirable than watching the MLG logo or hearing commentators say how they're still waiting on players to join. Obviously don't get rid of the commentator vamp time, but alternation would be great. 2) I'm looking for the tournament directors to let us watch *most* of the high profile matchups. There were several instances of us watching big name vs no-name matches when it was an outright stomp. I really enjoyed the few instances when we cut into a series in progress to see the final game in the possibility of an upset. I know it is hard to coordinate, but the viewers want to see the players they are fans of. 3) People were laughing about the map preview of Xel'Naga Caverns (especially you Day!), but that was great. Seriously. That's so professional to have that prepared for each map. Another way to improve would be to have some overlays / interface during the pre-game with statistics and player information. Think TSL or Proleague style here. I loved the tournament.. definitely made me a fan of Socke who I had rarely watched before. I'm really sad that my favorite players are Dimaga and Socke and I play Terran, but that's the case! | ||
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SolHeiM
Sweden1264 Posts
I changed to my laptop because it has widescreen, and it was still unwatchable in fullscreen mode because the sides were cropped off. Eventually I found a way to watch it in VLC, but I shouldn't really have to go through all that trouble to watch a stream because you can't configure it properly, should I? | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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Terrakin
United States1440 Posts
On August 29 2010 22:45 debasers wrote: I really think that if HD and Husky want to make it a job, they need to study more starcraft. They said so many crap during the games... I agree, they need to get more experience, then they should do live events. Just because you have a good voice doesn't make you a good caster. | ||
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de1irium
United States121 Posts
-- Downtime between matches was too much, IMO. I realize there needs to be time to recap and run commercials, and that's cool, but it seemed like the commentators were stalling a lot. There's enough legitimate time between matches that there should be no reason the players for the next match to be streamed aren't ready to go right as the current match is wrapping up. -- Production was a bit on the weak side. Transitions were often very awkward. And at one point your camera guys were killing time by panning around to a bunch of chubby nerds literally laying around (were there no chairs in the spec area??). I won't pretend to have a solution for a situation like that ... I realize it happens sometimes, and I realize it's the first time you guys have run SC2 so there are going to be hiccups. But a little more polish going forward would be cool. Visualize the brackets and/or the match results (maps played, who won which, etc...). Recap some of the other results that went on while the streamed match happened. -- 480p "HD?" You might be able to fool the halo kids with that, but come on. We're PC gamers.  Give me a 720p 30fps stream and I'd cough up the $10 in a second! Ghetto street fighter tournaments can manage it for free, I'm sure MLG can make it happen behind a paywall.-- On the topic of the stream quality, it was really dark. A little extra contrast/saturation can go a long way, but this was a bit too much. (No, it's not my monitor.) But ultimately the tourney went off without any major hangups (that I noticed), so props for that. Looking forward to seeing what the future brings for NA SC2! | ||
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warshop
Canada490 Posts
- It would also be nice to get replays and/or VODs of the matches that we couldn't see. I feel we missed some of the best matches and that really sucks. - As Avrithor pointed out, more interviews would be nice. It would be nice to meet the players, put a face on the name Other than that, great casts, great games. | ||
bRuTaL!!
Finland588 Posts
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