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Khrane
United States127 Posts
The 1 marine + 2 marauder + 1 reaper push from 1 barracks. You already have barely enough time to get out the zealot and stalker, and have to pull probes to hold it off, so now it'll be even harder to hold. At least we know this isn't a complete set of notes, so there's still hope. | ||
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Aquafresh
United States824 Posts
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
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Superouman
France2195 Posts
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Augury
United States758 Posts
The BC nerf was definitely needed, the only real counter was with air units. Zealot change was very unexpected though. Not sure how that will play out. Reaper/Bunker changes seem good, I'd really have liked a change to make salvage only return 80-90% of the cost though. Just seems dumb making them essentially free. | ||
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nodule
Canada931 Posts
On August 28 2010 02:13 KingRajesh wrote: Blizzard being Blizzard unfortunately, it's not the fact that siege tanks hit REALLY hard, it's the fact that you can make a line of them, and the corresponding splash damage plus them all firing at the same time destroys units. And also, what set of light, unarmored units do Zerg have to "perform better against siege tanks"? The Zergling? Hydras? | ||
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Amestir
Netherlands2126 Posts
Also, yeah Blizzard we really want chat channels  | ||
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Mrbustanut
121 Posts
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koppik
United States676 Posts
On August 28 2010 02:17 ProTosS4EveR wrote: Ram made ultralisks worse against planetary fortresses. Ultras base attack did around the same dps as the ram attack, but also has a 33% splash at a range of 2. So, now the ultra will be doing a little less dps against the pf, but it'll also be hitting some scvs most of the time.Ok, so now ultralisk without ram, how zerg will be taking down planetary fortresses? | ||
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Doko
Argentina1737 Posts
Do tanks deal full splash to zergling swarms? that value seems very... precise | ||
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FantaFunL
Belgium71 Posts
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On August 28 2010 02:13 KingRajesh wrote: Blizzard being Blizzard unfortunately, it's not the fact that siege tanks hit REALLY hard, it's the fact that you can make a line of them, and the corresponding splash damage plus them all firing at the same time destroys units. And also, what set of light, unarmored units do Zerg have to "perform better against siege tanks"? The Zergling? Bunker build time needs to be 40 seconds IMO. Zerglings and Hydras will be more viable against Tanks now I guess. Lings will no longer get one shot until tanks are upgraded and Hydras will be able to tank muchos hits. Guess this makes it important that you cover your tank line with blue flame Hellions. | ||
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mikell
Australia352 Posts
Zealot change seems a little unnecessary, warpgate was necessary but seriously, 38 seconds for a zealot seems kind of ridiculous if you think about it, even in smaller maps, as zerg I don't find a 2 gate push hard at all to fend off. Also thank god for the desert oasis change, although now Terrans will have a humungous choke for spamming tanks on, not that it matters now they're nerfed . wtb cliff nerf patch. | ||
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Thunderflesh
United States382 Posts
Given the siege tank nerf, the ultra damage nerf is appropriate; they tore through ground armored units just a little too well. | ||
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ltortoise
633 Posts
Indeed. Going from 2-shotting hydras to 3-shotting hydras is a pretty significant difference. | ||
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On August 28 2010 02:19 vyyye wrote: This is interesting to say the least.. The tank nerf is quite severe, but odds are TvT might turn out a bit more bio centric now? Hm, interesting. it already is mostly rauder+tanks on most maps. | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On August 28 2010 02:19 InToTheWannaB wrote: "Zealot rushes are currently too powerful at various skill levels" ? Who gives a rats ass if a silver level player can't deal with a zealot rush? I'm zerg and never really had that big of a problem stoping zealot rushs. Hell I dont see pro matchs where protoss players are winning massive amounts of games with proxy zealot rushs too. I can't say I understand that change to much. The siege tank change seems cool. Maybe now zerglings and zealots could be useful vs them. I like most of the other changes as well from the look of things. Blizzard gives a rats arse as even silver league players are customers. Yeah, I don't agree with it. But they want low level players to buy the following expansions as well, not just the competitive ones. Similar to the Forge change, proxy cannon rushes wasn't really a problem below platinum. | ||
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