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Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 39

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NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1601 Posts
September 29 2010 01:44 GMT
#761
Cannon Wall - Why not spine crawler push? Understandably when you main base if further away this will not work. Perhaps instead build and cancle a hatchery for the creep to prevent this. It does cost 75 minerals, but saves you from being walled.

You address that there aren't that many zergs in the RO8, RO16, ect, but how many where there in the RO64 or in the Qualifiers? Probably a similar ratio. You must make zerg fun to play.

Why is zerg considered so underpowered? Instead Terran is most definitly overpowered.
-Analyze this with the WLR of Terran in non mirror match ups verse Zerg or even Protoss in non mirror match ups.
-Clearly from that you can see they are OP.
TheWoodLeagueAllstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
September 29 2010 01:46 GMT
#762
Also sotg on the road with hop in hop out guests would be something truely awesome, if such a thing can be arranged :D
Bunker rushing is the way to a mans heart <3
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
September 29 2010 01:48 GMT
#763
On September 29 2010 10:42 Frack wrote:
Also i had an idea for a new segment for the end of the show, its something which has been done on a very very popular uk sports show called "Fighting talk". Its called "defend the indefensible" and the concept is as it sounds, 2 people are pared up and have to defend a notion, even if they disagree with it and the host decides who wins. I think this would play well to the comedy of Incontrol, Day9 and Tyler where the have to defend a concept they dont agree with just to see if they can rationalise it.

For example

Incontrol you have 30 seconds to defend the notion "Warp Gate is imbalanced, it should be removed from the game"

Artosis you have 30 seconds to defend the notion "Zerglings are too powerful early game, they should be 1 supply per ling and speed boost should be hive tech"


Might be kind of awkward but I'm willing to try. Geoff does this every now and then in vent, jokingly of course.
Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP
TheWoodLeagueAllstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
September 29 2010 01:51 GMT
#764
The aforementioned show "Fighting talk" is a pure comedy show so it translates well there, whether it will to this im genuinely not sure, but i think all of the guests are very capable of making it work if they are all in on the joke, it takes a step back from actual balance discussion to sort of poke fun at the game as a whole and make ludicrous claims. The good part about the segment on fighting talk is that the guys do take it seriously, which is half the fun, having Artosis argue zerg is imba or Incontrol saying the zealot nerf was too generous to protoss and should be extended is something i think could generate some good humour if they throw themselves into it :D.
Bunker rushing is the way to a mans heart <3
delo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States333 Posts
September 29 2010 01:53 GMT
#765
JP/INcontrol/Nony/Day9 - I love this show and I think I'm not going to be able to cope well without a new episode every week, therefore I'm donating. Special note, JP - nice attempt at incorporating the Puckett lightening round. See you in Dallas.
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
September 29 2010 01:57 GMT
#766
On September 29 2010 10:53 delo wrote:
JP/INcontrol/Nony/Day9 - I love this show and I think I'm not going to be able to cope well without a new episode every week, therefore I'm donating. Special note, JP - nice attempt at incorporating the Puckett lightening round. See you in Dallas.

Puckett lightning* round? What's that?
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ScarletKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States691 Posts
September 29 2010 02:00 GMT
#767
If the podcast were to be shorter it would have to be on more days. If it were 1 hour it would rather it be bi-weekly rather than once a week. As it stands now with length and occurrence it's pretty balanced.
Looks like I picked the wrong week the quit sniffing glue
Meeprawr
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia13 Posts
September 29 2010 02:05 GMT
#768
On September 29 2010 10:51 Frack wrote:
The aforementioned show "Fighting talk" is a pure comedy show so it translates well there, whether it will to this im genuinely not sure, but i think all of the guests are very capable of making it work if they are all in on the joke, it takes a step back from actual balance discussion to sort of poke fun at the game as a whole and make ludicrous claims. The good part about the segment on fighting talk is that the guys do take it seriously, which is half the fun, having Artosis argue zerg is imba or Incontrol saying the zealot nerf was too generous to protoss and should be extended is something i think could generate some good humour if they throw themselves into it :D.

You have to stop treating gamers like real life celebrities

Celebrities talk and make appearances for a living, they would have comedic value or be good at lightning rounds when given the chance. Gaming personalities like day9 are good at talking, geoff sounds naturally outgoing even without the commentator background.

The idra/psy lightning round was the most painful and awkward 10 minutes in the entirety of the sotg series.
TheWoodLeagueAllstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
September 29 2010 02:05 GMT
#769
1:30 could work i think, but biweekly is a scheduling nightmare waiting to happen :D, im probably too cautious a folk though.

Im coming across as mr negative im sure, i should depart at this point, its 3am im far too critical :D
Bunker rushing is the way to a mans heart <3
delo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States333 Posts
September 29 2010 02:07 GMT
#770
On September 29 2010 10:57 itmeJP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 10:53 delo wrote:
JP/INcontrol/Nony/Day9 - I love this show and I think I'm not going to be able to cope well without a new episode every week, therefore I'm donating. Special note, JP - nice attempt at incorporating the Puckett lightening round. See you in Dallas.

Puckett lightning* round? What's that?

Ok, maybe I'm wrong then. I just assumed there might have been a connection there, since it seems like it's a part of almost every MLG Friday Night pre-game broadcast.
TheWoodLeagueAllstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
September 29 2010 02:08 GMT
#771
On September 29 2010 11:05 Meeprawr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 10:51 Frack wrote:
The aforementioned show "Fighting talk" is a pure comedy show so it translates well there, whether it will to this im genuinely not sure, but i think all of the guests are very capable of making it work if they are all in on the joke, it takes a step back from actual balance discussion to sort of poke fun at the game as a whole and make ludicrous claims. The good part about the segment on fighting talk is that the guys do take it seriously, which is half the fun, having Artosis argue zerg is imba or Incontrol saying the zealot nerf was too generous to protoss and should be extended is something i think could generate some good humour if they throw themselves into it :D.

You have to stop treating gamers like real life celebrities

Celebrities talk and make appearances for a living, they would have comedic value or be good at lightning rounds when given the chance. Gaming personalities like day9 are good at talking, geoff sounds naturally outgoing even without the commentator background.

The idra/psy lightning round was the most painful and awkward 10 minutes in the entirety of the sotg series.

Im unsure we are on the same page sir :o, infact im not so sure what side you are on? Are you saying Geoff and Artosis say couldnt take a light hearted look at themselves and their races and just take the piss a bit? Everyone on the show so far has seemed really affable and willing to take the mick at given opportunities.
Bunker rushing is the way to a mans heart <3
Meeprawr
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia13 Posts
September 29 2010 02:17 GMT
#772
On September 29 2010 11:08 Frack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 11:05 Meeprawr wrote:
On September 29 2010 10:51 Frack wrote:
The aforementioned show "Fighting talk" is a pure comedy show so it translates well there, whether it will to this im genuinely not sure, but i think all of the guests are very capable of making it work if they are all in on the joke, it takes a step back from actual balance discussion to sort of poke fun at the game as a whole and make ludicrous claims. The good part about the segment on fighting talk is that the guys do take it seriously, which is half the fun, having Artosis argue zerg is imba or Incontrol saying the zealot nerf was too generous to protoss and should be extended is something i think could generate some good humour if they throw themselves into it :D.

You have to stop treating gamers like real life celebrities

Celebrities talk and make appearances for a living, they would have comedic value or be good at lightning rounds when given the chance. Gaming personalities like day9 are good at talking, geoff sounds naturally outgoing even without the commentator background.

The idra/psy lightning round was the most painful and awkward 10 minutes in the entirety of the sotg series.

Im unsure we are on the same page sir :o, infact im not so sure what side you are on? Are you saying Geoff and Artosis say couldnt take a light hearted look at themselves and their races and just take the piss a bit? Everyone on the show so far has seemed really affable and willing to take the mick at given opportunities.

All the regular hosts could. But if you think psy was 'affable' you might of been listening to the wrong cast.

I'm saying guests will not always be comfortable to do impromtu speech, unlike the regulars who know what they are up against, and would be prepared for such a situation.
Karthane
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1183 Posts
September 29 2010 02:58 GMT
#773
It's so discouraging to hear that IdrA may be switching races...sigh.
Spaceball
Profile Joined November 2007
United States213 Posts
September 29 2010 03:22 GMT
#774
Another good episode, Incontrol and Day9 are hilarious. I thought Idra was a pretty good guest too... its always great to have someone on who isn't shy about sharing their opinions. Psy seemed out of place, but I'm not sure if there was really room for him on the show why Idra/Incontrol/Day9 dominating like they do.

Also, the lightning round segment was bad. It was the only part of the podcast that was painful to listen to and I wouldn't be opposed to just dropping it altogether in the future. If you do keep it, try to make it more starcraft related because the random questions were pretty cringe worthy. Other than that it was a good show though, I look forward to the next episode!
jdwashere
Profile Joined September 2010
United States62 Posts
September 29 2010 03:36 GMT
#775
Yes idra is great to have on. He is completely no bullshit, and his game knowledge can only stacked against artosis. Hope to see him on more.
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
September 29 2010 03:40 GMT
#776
iNcontroL's explanation of Artosis was pretty informative. Thx bro!
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 04:16:08
September 29 2010 04:15 GMT
#777
I can agree with the fewer guests thing but not too much fewer. I think 4 total is pretty solid, maybe 5.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Systemkaos
Profile Joined May 2010
United States41 Posts
September 29 2010 04:20 GMT
#778
On September 29 2010 12:40 Misanthrope wrote:
iNcontroL's explanation of Artosis was pretty informative. Thx bro!


never laughed so hard randomly. I have people looking at me now. Trying to explain it just doesnt work when they dont play SC2
Shakes
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia557 Posts
September 29 2010 04:24 GMT
#779
I don't feel like the number of guests was necessarily a problem, I do feel like if you're going to have a guest on you should tailor the episode somewhat to them. Psy isn't a guy involved in the pro-gaming scene, so it's really not surprising when the podcast turned that way he had very little to say. I assumed with him being on this episode would focus on the game itself rather than e-sports.

I guess having IdrA on as well kind of created a conflict there, maybe having the two one hour episodes, one with Psy and one with Idra would have worked? It would also have solved the length issue, and if you staggered the release, probably would have helped the server bandwidth (plus if the Psy episode didn't go into e-sports you could release it 3 days later and it wouldn't lose any relevance).
airety
Profile Joined July 2010
United States63 Posts
September 29 2010 05:32 GMT
#780
I think from listening to ArenaCast, I know that JP's podcasts focus on e-sports. It's not that they won't talk about things that aren't relevant to e-sports, it's just that it's a small part of the podcast. This is partly due to JP's position (he works for MLG, the top American esports company) and the fact that the panel is made up of serious pro gamers/casters (Day9 was a BW champ, Tyler was the best non-Korean in the world a few years ago, inControl was once the best BW player in Florida.)

Thinking about that, Psy probably wasn't the best guest to have. Not that he isn't smart, intelligent, or couldn't have anything to add, but when the talk was focused on GSL etc. you could tell it was going over his head. Idra has been a great guest, so has Artosis. I was going to say that you should really try and get an American Zerg next cast, but let's widen that to North American/English speaking Zerg. Slush?
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