• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:34
CEST 11:34
KST 18:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension3Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7
StarCraft 2
General
Why doesnt SC2 scene costream tournaments Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Who will win EWC 2025? Heaven's Balance Suggestions (roast me)
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Soulkey Muta Micro Map? BW General Discussion [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2025 ACS Season 2 Qualifier [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET CSL Xiamen International Invitational
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 604 users

Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 2641

Forum Index > SC2 General
54608 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2639 2640 2641 2642 2643 2731 Next
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 03:55:26
April 05 2013 03:43 GMT
#52801
With regard to potential development of an "eSports hub"... keep in mind that MLG is a partner in the WCS, and MLG is headquartered in NYC and was trying to build a studio in Columbus, OH.

A hub SHOULD be in Cali, but keep in mind the above.

Also, incoming post from Enders in three... two...
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
April 05 2013 03:44 GMT
#52802
I dunno about this talk of streaming---

People can do other stuff than just play game after game. Some of the stuff that TB does with Axiom is a good example of original stream content that doesn't compromise strats.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
April 05 2013 03:46 GMT
#52803
I'd like to know something about Chinese players if people know anything. Do the Chinese pros care / what will they do ?

Hope it's included in the SEA discussion.
butter
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States785 Posts
April 05 2013 04:07 GMT
#52804
What's the point of inviting very knowledgeable people onto a show where you ask them about stuff they don't know about
TL should have a minigame where you have to destroy some rocks before you can make a new post – DentalFloss
DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
April 05 2013 04:15 GMT
#52805
We need a team of MIT physicists to figure this shizzle out lol
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 05 2013 04:27 GMT
#52806
Artosis pretty much nails it.

The new UI needs to be more distributed across the screen, too much is clustered on the left and there needs to be a supply count at the top. The supply count in the game gets hard to see sometimes even in 720p.

I could do without the unit/structure box on the right as well, but that's something I can live with.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
April 05 2013 04:33 GMT
#52807
On April 05 2013 13:07 butter wrote:
What's the point of inviting very knowledgeable people onto a show where you ask them about stuff they don't know about


because then you get people saying WHY DIDN'T YOU TALK ABOUT THIS AND WHY DIDN'T YOU ASK ABOUT IT WITH THE GUESTS.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
April 05 2013 04:46 GMT
#52808
While Moonglade was giving his shout outs and talking about fishing, I heard a chant inside my head... it was all "Aussie Aussie Aussie!!"
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
April 05 2013 04:49 GMT
#52809
Great show, love all the guests and JP...they get along well and bring up good points.
MGHova
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada274 Posts
April 05 2013 06:00 GMT
#52810
JP are you going to post the mp3 anytime soon?
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 05 2013 09:38 GMT
#52811
It's up on youtube btw, you can find it...



That's the new one right?
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 10:32:30
April 05 2013 10:30 GMT
#52812
The show was great, especially the WCS section. Many people in the forums are getting too sidetracked on some details to see the huge potential to change things to the better for everyone. The guests are the ones that are affected by the changes and they talk about all the moves the actors of the scene can do now.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
April 05 2013 15:39 GMT
#52813
On April 05 2013 12:43 felisconcolori wrote:
With regard to potential development of an "eSports hub"... keep in mind that MLG is a partner in the WCS, and MLG is headquartered in NYC and was trying to build a studio in Columbus, OH.

A hub SHOULD be in Cali, but keep in mind the above.

Also, incoming post from Enders in three... two...

Haven't watched the episode yet but why Cali? NYC is very accessible by everyone. Columbus would also be good because it is prolly cheaper to operate there. Either way travel will be expensive. And mlg Columbus events have been super awesome.
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
April 05 2013 16:17 GMT
#52814
On April 05 2013 12:44 caradoc wrote:
I dunno about this talk of streaming---

People can do other stuff than just play game after game. Some of the stuff that TB does with Axiom is a good example of original stream content that doesn't compromise strats.

Some pros have commented in the past about how playing games on stream doesn't achieve the same level of practice as playing off stream. Streaming, in and of itself, can be taxing for those who aren't used to streaming every moment of their gaming/training sessions. It's not just about revealing new strategies. I've tried streaming before, and it just feels different than when I'm playing without streaming (probably because I wasn't used to it). Subconsciously, you're always taking into consideration that people are watching you play, and that may just be enough to make you play a little off. Additionally, you feel obligated to interact with viewers in between, or even during, matches.
Uracil
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany422 Posts
April 05 2013 16:26 GMT
#52815
A bit of a subpar show compared to usual. They were a little bit to misinformed about a lot of stuff in the WCS discussion.
Dreamhack the only international tournament for example. They got corrected by chat but that shouldn't be happening when the topic is kind of important.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 05 2013 16:31 GMT
#52816
On April 06 2013 01:17 wongfeihung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 12:44 caradoc wrote:
I dunno about this talk of streaming---

People can do other stuff than just play game after game. Some of the stuff that TB does with Axiom is a good example of original stream content that doesn't compromise strats.

Some pros have commented in the past about how playing games on stream doesn't achieve the same level of practice as playing off stream. Streaming, in and of itself, can be taxing for those who aren't used to streaming every moment of their gaming/training sessions. It's not just about revealing new strategies. I've tried streaming before, and it just feels different than when I'm playing without streaming (probably because I wasn't used to it). Subconsciously, you're always taking into consideration that people are watching you play, and that may just be enough to make you play a little off. Additionally, you feel obligated to interact with viewers in between, or even during, matches.


Just pull a Jaedong and off race the entire time. He plays protoss and its super amusing. More pro's should try this as a way for them to put in those brand building hours while not giving anything away. After all, Idra playing Protoss would be the best thing ever.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 05 2013 16:34 GMT
#52817
On April 06 2013 01:26 Uracil wrote:
A bit of a subpar show compared to usual. They were a little bit to misinformed about a lot of stuff in the WCS discussion.
Dreamhack the only international tournament for example. They got corrected by chat but that shouldn't be happening when the topic is kind of important.


It was a great show and the hosts are not the sources for all WCS knowledge in the entire world. They, in fact, cannot know all things as once and that is why they have to look things up or seek information from the chat. You need to ratchet down your expectations to something a bit more reasonable.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Uracil
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany422 Posts
April 05 2013 17:11 GMT
#52818
On April 06 2013 01:34 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 01:26 Uracil wrote:
A bit of a subpar show compared to usual. They were a little bit to misinformed about a lot of stuff in the WCS discussion.
Dreamhack the only international tournament for example. They got corrected by chat but that shouldn't be happening when the topic is kind of important.


It was a great show and the hosts are not the sources for all WCS knowledge in the entire world. They, in fact, cannot know all things as once and that is why they have to look things up or seek information from the chat. You need to ratchet down your expectations to something a bit more reasonable.

I still think it was good show but there is always room for improvement. And if we look at the "competitors" like Lo3 and the the GDStudio then we that they getting their infos right. That is just a weakness that Sotg has sometimes and the result of the lack of well informed guy like Slasher or Adebisi. Sotg is a great show and has strong points like balance discussion. Something that neither Lo3 or TheGDstudio could pull of.But the show would even better if they could fix that weakness.
Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
April 05 2013 17:15 GMT
#52819
On April 06 2013 01:31 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 01:17 wongfeihung wrote:
On April 05 2013 12:44 caradoc wrote:
I dunno about this talk of streaming---

People can do other stuff than just play game after game. Some of the stuff that TB does with Axiom is a good example of original stream content that doesn't compromise strats.

Some pros have commented in the past about how playing games on stream doesn't achieve the same level of practice as playing off stream. Streaming, in and of itself, can be taxing for those who aren't used to streaming every moment of their gaming/training sessions. It's not just about revealing new strategies. I've tried streaming before, and it just feels different than when I'm playing without streaming (probably because I wasn't used to it). Subconsciously, you're always taking into consideration that people are watching you play, and that may just be enough to make you play a little off. Additionally, you feel obligated to interact with viewers in between, or even during, matches.


Just pull a Jaedong and off race the entire time. He plays protoss and its super amusing. More pro's should try this as a way for them to put in those brand building hours while not giving anything away. After all, Idra playing Protoss would be the best thing ever.

Problem in doing that is that its essentially wasted practice time that isn't R&R. When you are competing against KeSPA type teams its a nontrivial loss.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 05 2013 17:17 GMT
#52820
On April 06 2013 02:15 Fischbacher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 01:31 Plansix wrote:
On April 06 2013 01:17 wongfeihung wrote:
On April 05 2013 12:44 caradoc wrote:
I dunno about this talk of streaming---

People can do other stuff than just play game after game. Some of the stuff that TB does with Axiom is a good example of original stream content that doesn't compromise strats.

Some pros have commented in the past about how playing games on stream doesn't achieve the same level of practice as playing off stream. Streaming, in and of itself, can be taxing for those who aren't used to streaming every moment of their gaming/training sessions. It's not just about revealing new strategies. I've tried streaming before, and it just feels different than when I'm playing without streaming (probably because I wasn't used to it). Subconsciously, you're always taking into consideration that people are watching you play, and that may just be enough to make you play a little off. Additionally, you feel obligated to interact with viewers in between, or even during, matches.


Just pull a Jaedong and off race the entire time. He plays protoss and its super amusing. More pro's should try this as a way for them to put in those brand building hours while not giving anything away. After all, Idra playing Protoss would be the best thing ever.

Problem in doing that is that its essentially wasted practice time that isn't R&R. When you are competing against KeSPA type teams its a nontrivial loss.


Player's don't stream for fun. They stream for ad revenue and to put up viewer minutes for their sponsors. It is time spent supporting the team by interacting with the fan.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Prev 1 2639 2640 2641 2642 2643 2731 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 26m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech66
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 1649
Larva 613
actioN 495
firebathero 257
Dewaltoss 249
BeSt 219
Leta 156
PianO 154
ToSsGirL 106
Soma 96
[ Show more ]
Bonyth 73
Backho 45
Sacsri 30
Shinee 30
NotJumperer 11
Noble 10
Sharp 9
Dota 2
ODPixel694
XcaliburYe609
XaKoH 587
canceldota117
League of Legends
JimRising 499
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K5178
Super Smash Bros
Westballz61
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor187
Other Games
SortOf162
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2398
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH255
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2199
League of Legends
• Jankos883
Other Games
• WagamamaTV268
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
26m
Online Event
6h 26m
BSL 2v2 ProLeague S3
8h 26m
Esports World Cup
2 days
ByuN vs Astrea
Lambo vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
Solar vs Zoun
SHIN vs Reynor
Maru vs TriGGeR
herO vs Lancer
Cure vs ShoWTimE
Esports World Cup
3 days
Esports World Cup
4 days
Esports World Cup
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
6 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
6 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
[ Show More ]
FEL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

2025 ACS Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

BSL 2v2 Season 3
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Xiamen Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
Underdog Cup #2
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.