EPTOfficial State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 2355
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yawnoC
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IMoperator
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On June 29 2012 10:31 blade55555 wrote: No but he's saying that roach/bane all in won't be happening anytime soon if zerg is going 6 queen build. Stephano goes 2 base roach almost every game and can put a ton of pressure on the terran and kill a lot of SCV's and then he just expands behind it. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On June 29 2012 10:33 IMoperator wrote: Stephano goes 2 base roach almost every game and can put a ton of pressure on the terran and kill a lot of SCV's and then he just expands behind it. Yes he does, that proves my point though. That is when he is not doing the 6 queen build. That's an aggressive approach and you can't go 6 queens into roach/bane all in. I know stephano does that, but again not the 6 queen build which is what terrans say is so strong. | ||
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IMoperator
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On June 29 2012 10:33 yawnoC wrote: couldn't the move out with 5 marines situation qxc is talking about be used to force the zerg to make units they dont want to since they see it and have enough time to react? They don't want to do it at first but if you kill those 5 marines there goes your pressure for 5+ minutes allowing the zerg to do whatever the fuck. | ||
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pdd
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Noocta
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IMoperator
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On June 29 2012 10:34 blade55555 wrote: Yes he does, that proves my point though. That is when he is not doing the 6 queen build. That's an aggressive approach and you can't go 6 queens into roach/bane all in. I know stephano does that, but again not the 6 queen build which is what terrans say is so strong. Ok but won't the zerg scout with OL's and see if the terran is going super heavy defense and then not attack and just take a third base? And then all those bunkers/depots etc. would be wasted money. It's not like you have to do a roach bane all in every game if you open gas. If he scouts 3 CC, go all in. If he scouts you 2 basing, take a 3rd base and defend it. | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
On June 29 2012 10:35 IMoperator wrote: I am not talking about using the 5 marines. I am talking about feigning pressure.They don't want to do it at first but if you kill those 5 marines there goes your pressure for 5+ minutes allowing the zerg to do whatever the fuck. | ||
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PardonYou
United States1360 Posts
On June 29 2012 10:36 pdd wrote: Don't get why Idra wants Terran to turtle up for the late game when Zerg's late game is even more brutal than its midgame. It's all part of his plan...to win. | ||
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pdd
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Tantaburs
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Ghostpvp
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IMoperator
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On June 29 2012 10:38 yawnoC wrote: I am not talking about using the 5 marines. I am talking about feigning pressure. They have queens bro, they'll make like 6 lings max because queens are just so good. 5 marines isn't very much pressure. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On June 29 2012 10:41 Tantaburs wrote: terran has a 23% win rate in TvZ in GSTL this season. That is not doing okay Nah but the past week they are starting to do better then they were even 2 weeks ago. A lot more terrans won tvz this week (and no matter how many terrans say zerg just sucked which is a typical response lol) then the past couple weeks. On June 29 2012 10:41 IMoperator wrote: They have queens bro, they'll make like 6 lings max because queens are just so good. 5 marines isn't very much pressure. Doesn't matter forcing 6 lings is still nice lol that's 3 less drones early game. | ||
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JoeSchmoe
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IshinShishi
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
On June 29 2012 10:41 IMoperator wrote: You obviously have no idea what I am saying and didn't understand what qxc said on that show so I am just not going to respond to you.They have queens bro, they'll make like 6 lings max because queens are just so good. 5 marines isn't very much pressure. | ||
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MrCon
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Race Stats (non-mirrors): TvZ: 4-13 (23.5%) [ Games ] ZvP: 17-14 (54.8%) [ Games ] PvT: 9-6 (60%) [ Games ] http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/leagues/2867_2012_Global_StarCraft_2_Team_League_Season_2 If you look at the TvZ game list and see which zerg beat which terran, this is even more depressing. | ||
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IMoperator
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On June 29 2012 10:44 yawnoC wrote: You obviously have no idea what I am saying and didn't understand what qxc said on that show so I am just not going to respond to you. Wtf are you trying to say? The zerg won't make 30 fucking lings to beat 5 marines. I responded to your point, you're just not smart enough to realize it. | ||
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IMoperator
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On June 29 2012 10:41 blade55555 wrote: Nah but the past week they are starting to do better then they were even 2 weeks ago. A lot more terrans won tvz this week (and no matter how many terrans say zerg just sucked which is a typical response lol) then the past couple weeks. Doesn't matter forcing 6 lings is still nice lol that's 3 less drones early game. Or they could just make 1 spine crawler... | ||
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