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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
June 28 2012 23:30 GMT
#47061
I think the solution is to use more ravens and ghosts

-Raven to stop creep and catch burrow and later use seeker missile.
-Ghost to snipe and EMP on infestors

That's my impression from some terran late game winning compositions in GSL.
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
June 28 2012 23:33 GMT
#47062
On June 29 2012 08:28 NexRex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 08:26 farvacola wrote:
Talk about universal healthcare! PLEASE! I want to hear some Sc2 personality opinions on the matter.

Because this is the State of the United States of America's Healthcare Problems. Can't wait to watch SotUSoAHP. O.o

No, it is obviously State of the Game.......of Life! Yeah man!
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
June 29 2012 00:20 GMT
#47063
On June 29 2012 08:26 farvacola wrote:
Talk about universal healthcare! PLEASE! I want to hear some Sc2 personality opinions on the matter.


wtf... i hope you're trolling.

in any case, good guests! qxc and idra are my favy wavies.
Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
June 29 2012 00:26 GMT
#47064
I bet idra will complain about zerg and no one will give a shit

if qxc says terran is up there will be a shitstorm

granted I don't think there are actually problems in tvz and I don't think qxc will either. but the double standards are astounding across the board.
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Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
June 29 2012 00:26 GMT
#47065
19 mins !
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 00:37:14
June 29 2012 00:36 GMT
#47066
On June 29 2012 09:26 Vari wrote:
I bet idra will complain about zerg and no one will give a shit

if qxc says terran is up there will be a shitstorm

granted I don't think there are actually problems in tvz and I don't think qxc will either. but the double standards are astounding across the board.

Actually, on ITG Idra gave intellectual advice on TvZ.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 00:40:55
June 29 2012 00:40 GMT
#47067
On June 29 2012 09:26 Vari wrote:
I bet idra will complain about zerg and no one will give a shit

if qxc says terran is up there will be a shitstorm

granted I don't think there are actually problems in tvz and I don't think qxc will either. but the double standards are astounding across the board.

Idra has been asked this question enough that it is pretty clear what his answer will be:
- Too early to tell, still need to experiment.
- Terran are having a hard time in tvz (but does may be temporary)
- Many terrans are still using outdated strats like certain hellion openers
- Terrans are too afraid, 4 queens are not that great in a fight, and hellions can often still run by.
- In GSL T are doing better than zerg.

QXC will likely state most of the following if he is like most terrans:
- Tterrans are having a hard time.
- No reliable way to pressure zergs early without doing coinflip that favor zerg. This allows zerg to drone without limit.
- The only option for terran is therefore all-in or very greedy, which zerg can easily prepare for and punish respectively.
- Zerg will get into lategame in advantageous position unless terran outplays zerg, and zerg deathball is still hard to deal with after ghost nerf.
- In GSTL ZvT was 13-0 or something like that.

And there will be a shitstorm no matter what from both sides. There always is in this thread, and in any thread when balance is mentioned, and especially when idra is involved in any way.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 29 2012 00:54 GMT
#47068
I got the same headset that JP just showed! It's awesome...but I don't think it'd be good for gaming since it heats up your ears after a few hours of wearing.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
June 29 2012 00:55 GMT
#47069
I'm happy to see Nony today!!
Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
June 29 2012 00:59 GMT
#47070
On June 29 2012 09:40 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 09:26 Vari wrote:
I bet idra will complain about zerg and no one will give a shit

if qxc says terran is up there will be a shitstorm

granted I don't think there are actually problems in tvz and I don't think qxc will either. but the double standards are astounding across the board.

Idra has been asked this question enough that it is pretty clear what his answer will be:
- Too early to tell, still need to experiment.
- Terran are having a hard time in tvz (but does may be temporary)
- Many terrans are still using outdated strats like certain hellion openers
- Terrans are too afraid, 4 queens are not that great in a fight, and hellions can often still run by.
- In GSL T are doing better than zerg.

QXC will likely state most of the following if he is like most terrans:
- Tterrans are having a hard time.
- No reliable way to pressure zergs early without doing coinflip that favor zerg. This allows zerg to drone without limit.
- The only option for terran is therefore all-in or very greedy, which zerg can easily prepare for and punish respectively.
- Zerg will get into lategame in advantageous position unless terran outplays zerg, and zerg deathball is still hard to deal with after ghost nerf.
- In GSTL ZvT was 13-0 or something like that.

And there will be a shitstorm no matter what from both sides. There always is in this thread, and in any thread when balance is mentioned, and especially when idra is involved in any way.


I'm fine with all of this.

I like QXC in general and I'm glad they have a terran on. I wish though that the show didn't go from complaining about terrans to dismissing terrans to now laughing at terrans wanting to be represented on the show.

I know a lot of it is just joking (incontrol just saying being GM as T didn't count) but it still kind of grates after 2 years.
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
June 29 2012 01:04 GMT
#47071
On June 29 2012 07:06 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I hope, with every fiber of my being, that QXC's only thoughts on balance is that TvZ is evolving and should be perfectly fine.

The sheer insanity that would erupt would give me a hardon that would last for days. I'm praying for this.

Praying as well for this.

No matter what he says, though, I doubt we will see any reduction in whining as JP so optimistically hopes :p
d=(^_^)z
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
June 29 2012 01:12 GMT
#47072
On June 29 2012 09:54 Whole wrote:
I got the same headset that JP just showed! It's awesome...but I don't think it'd be good for gaming since it heats up your ears after a few hours of wearing.

Ahhh I missed that first part, what headset was it?
kommunalka
Profile Joined February 2011
United States550 Posts
June 29 2012 01:24 GMT
#47073
Abacus!! to calculate balance.... nice.
rG
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 01:26:19
June 29 2012 01:25 GMT
#47074
wish geoff would be okay not being in the spotlight for 5 minutes. jjjjjesssus

edit: ok he's being quiet : ) ) ) )
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
June 29 2012 01:27 GMT
#47075
QXC is right, Terran needs something like scan to gain more information.
Skol
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 29 2012 01:29 GMT
#47076
I'm pretty sure this whole discussion is going nowhere.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
IMNasty
Profile Joined February 2012
663 Posts
June 29 2012 01:29 GMT
#47077
abacus thing getting old
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
June 29 2012 01:30 GMT
#47078
Sure, 3 CC is safe. It's hella safe when the zerg is playing greedy too. But if they're going roach/bane all in then it's really hard to hold with another 400 minerals not into bunkers/wall. And even if the zerg is being greedy, they're going to have 80 drones sick creep spread and hive at 10 minutes. It's not like zerg just loses because the terran has 3 CC's -_-
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 29 2012 01:31 GMT
#47079
On June 29 2012 10:30 IMoperator wrote:
Sure, 3 CC is safe. It's hella safe when the zerg is playing greedy too. But if they're going roach/bane all in then it's really hard to hold with another 400 minerals not into bunkers/wall. And even if the zerg is being greedy, they're going to have 80 drones sick creep spread and hive at 10 minutes. It's not like zerg just loses because the terran has 3 CC's -_-


No but he's saying that roach/bane all in won't be happening anytime soon if zerg is going 6 queen build.
When I think of something else, something will go here
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
June 29 2012 01:32 GMT
#47080
On June 29 2012 10:29 Noocta wrote:
I'm pretty sure this whole discussion is going nowhere.

With IdrA involved, there was no other outcome. It's either utterly broken, and his race should never win ever, or you should just give it time.
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