-Raven to stop creep and catch burrow and later use seeker missile.
-Ghost to snipe and EMP on infestors
That's my impression from some terran late game winning compositions in GSL.
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
June 28 2012 23:30 GMT
#47061
-Raven to stop creep and catch burrow and later use seeker missile. -Ghost to snipe and EMP on infestors That's my impression from some terran late game winning compositions in GSL. | ||
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farvacola
United States18839 Posts
June 28 2012 23:33 GMT
#47062
On June 29 2012 08:28 NexRex wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2012 08:26 farvacola wrote: Talk about universal healthcare! PLEASE! I want to hear some Sc2 personality opinions on the matter. Because this is the State of the United States of America's Healthcare Problems. Can't wait to watch SotUSoAHP. O.o No, it is obviously State of the Game.......of Life! Yeah man! | ||
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3075 Posts
June 29 2012 00:20 GMT
#47063
On June 29 2012 08:26 farvacola wrote: Talk about universal healthcare! PLEASE! I want to hear some Sc2 personality opinions on the matter. wtf... i hope you're trolling. in any case, good guests! qxc and idra are my favy wavies. | ||
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Vari
United States532 Posts
June 29 2012 00:26 GMT
#47064
if qxc says terran is up there will be a shitstorm granted I don't think there are actually problems in tvz and I don't think qxc will either. but the double standards are astounding across the board. | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
June 29 2012 00:26 GMT
#47065
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PardonYou
United States1360 Posts
June 29 2012 00:36 GMT
#47066
On June 29 2012 09:26 Vari wrote: I bet idra will complain about zerg and no one will give a shit if qxc says terran is up there will be a shitstorm granted I don't think there are actually problems in tvz and I don't think qxc will either. but the double standards are astounding across the board. Actually, on ITG Idra gave intellectual advice on TvZ. | ||
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
June 29 2012 00:40 GMT
#47067
On June 29 2012 09:26 Vari wrote: I bet idra will complain about zerg and no one will give a shit if qxc says terran is up there will be a shitstorm granted I don't think there are actually problems in tvz and I don't think qxc will either. but the double standards are astounding across the board. Idra has been asked this question enough that it is pretty clear what his answer will be: - Too early to tell, still need to experiment. - Terran are having a hard time in tvz (but does may be temporary) - Many terrans are still using outdated strats like certain hellion openers - Terrans are too afraid, 4 queens are not that great in a fight, and hellions can often still run by. - In GSL T are doing better than zerg. QXC will likely state most of the following if he is like most terrans: - Tterrans are having a hard time. - No reliable way to pressure zergs early without doing coinflip that favor zerg. This allows zerg to drone without limit. - The only option for terran is therefore all-in or very greedy, which zerg can easily prepare for and punish respectively. - Zerg will get into lategame in advantageous position unless terran outplays zerg, and zerg deathball is still hard to deal with after ghost nerf. - In GSTL ZvT was 13-0 or something like that. And there will be a shitstorm no matter what from both sides. There always is in this thread, and in any thread when balance is mentioned, and especially when idra is involved in any way. | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
June 29 2012 00:54 GMT
#47068
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
June 29 2012 00:55 GMT
#47069
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Vari
United States532 Posts
June 29 2012 00:59 GMT
#47070
On June 29 2012 09:40 rasnj wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2012 09:26 Vari wrote: I bet idra will complain about zerg and no one will give a shit if qxc says terran is up there will be a shitstorm granted I don't think there are actually problems in tvz and I don't think qxc will either. but the double standards are astounding across the board. Idra has been asked this question enough that it is pretty clear what his answer will be: - Too early to tell, still need to experiment. - Terran are having a hard time in tvz (but does may be temporary) - Many terrans are still using outdated strats like certain hellion openers - Terrans are too afraid, 4 queens are not that great in a fight, and hellions can often still run by. - In GSL T are doing better than zerg. QXC will likely state most of the following if he is like most terrans: - Tterrans are having a hard time. - No reliable way to pressure zergs early without doing coinflip that favor zerg. This allows zerg to drone without limit. - The only option for terran is therefore all-in or very greedy, which zerg can easily prepare for and punish respectively. - Zerg will get into lategame in advantageous position unless terran outplays zerg, and zerg deathball is still hard to deal with after ghost nerf. - In GSTL ZvT was 13-0 or something like that. And there will be a shitstorm no matter what from both sides. There always is in this thread, and in any thread when balance is mentioned, and especially when idra is involved in any way. I'm fine with all of this. I like QXC in general and I'm glad they have a terran on. I wish though that the show didn't go from complaining about terrans to dismissing terrans to now laughing at terrans wanting to be represented on the show. I know a lot of it is just joking (incontrol just saying being GM as T didn't count) but it still kind of grates after 2 years. | ||
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elmizzt
United States3309 Posts
June 29 2012 01:04 GMT
#47071
On June 29 2012 07:06 I_Love_Bacon wrote: I hope, with every fiber of my being, that QXC's only thoughts on balance is that TvZ is evolving and should be perfectly fine. The sheer insanity that would erupt would give me a hardon that would last for days. I'm praying for this. Praying as well for this. No matter what he says, though, I doubt we will see any reduction in whining as JP so optimistically hopes :p | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
June 29 2012 01:12 GMT
#47072
On June 29 2012 09:54 Whole wrote: I got the same headset that JP just showed! It's awesome...but I don't think it'd be good for gaming since it heats up your ears after a few hours of wearing. Ahhh I missed that first part, what headset was it? | ||
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kommunalka
United States550 Posts
June 29 2012 01:24 GMT
#47073
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3075 Posts
June 29 2012 01:25 GMT
#47074
edit: ok he's being quiet : ) ) ) ) | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10660 Posts
June 29 2012 01:27 GMT
#47075
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
June 29 2012 01:29 GMT
#47076
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IMNasty
663 Posts
June 29 2012 01:29 GMT
#47077
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
June 29 2012 01:30 GMT
#47078
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
June 29 2012 01:31 GMT
#47079
On June 29 2012 10:30 IMoperator wrote: Sure, 3 CC is safe. It's hella safe when the zerg is playing greedy too. But if they're going roach/bane all in then it's really hard to hold with another 400 minerals not into bunkers/wall. And even if the zerg is being greedy, they're going to have 80 drones sick creep spread and hive at 10 minutes. It's not like zerg just loses because the terran has 3 CC's -_- No but he's saying that roach/bane all in won't be happening anytime soon if zerg is going 6 queen build. | ||
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TheGrimace
United States929 Posts
June 29 2012 01:32 GMT
#47080
On June 29 2012 10:29 Noocta wrote: I'm pretty sure this whole discussion is going nowhere. With IdrA involved, there was no other outcome. It's either utterly broken, and his race should never win ever, or you should just give it time. | ||
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