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ronpaul012
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
April 19 2012 03:37 GMT
#43361
I have to admit, I'm not a big fan of TB's casting. But I did like him on the show last night, so I went out and checked out his channel. Cool dude. He may not be my favorite caster, but it's nice to see somebody who does so much of what he loves.
I'm a gooner.
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
April 19 2012 04:25 GMT
#43362
On April 19 2012 12:37 ronpaul012 wrote:
I have to admit, I'm not a big fan of TB's casting. But I did like him on the show last night, so I went out and checked out his channel. Cool dude. He may not be my favorite caster, but it's nice to see somebody who does so much of what he loves.

Seconded. I'm not a huge TB fan in terms of his casting, but the man himself is brilliant and he did a pretty excellent job on SotG this week. Loved the show guys, keep it up!

P.S.
We miss you InControl!
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
Voltimand
Profile Joined July 2011
United States29 Posts
April 19 2012 04:31 GMT
#43363
I hope they can get TB on more if one of the pillars can't make it on the show that week. He had some great insight on the things that Adam said on the show and it's nice to have someone on the show who has insight on the business side of esports.
one-one-one
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden551 Posts
April 19 2012 14:54 GMT
#43364
For the love of god!

Get a Terran representative on Sotg! Every Sotg.

So annoying that you always miss the terran perspective of things cos no one has anything to say.
Like recently when the Blizzard developer update was discussed and the changes to terran were discussed only briefly while zerg and protoss changes were discussed in way more detail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BFY4R7IIP4#t=1710s
herbie
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
140 Posts
April 19 2012 14:57 GMT
#43365
On April 19 2012 23:54 one-one-one wrote:
For the love of god!

Get a Terran representative on Sotg! Every Sotg.

So annoying that you always miss the terran perspective of things cos no one has anything to say.
Like recently when the Blizzard developer update was discussed and the changes to terran were discussed only briefly while zerg and protoss changes were discussed in way more detail.


Clearly blizzard has no idea in hell what to do with Terran, there are no "changes" just a load more bad ideas. The picture for the other races is much more clear.
one-one-one
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden551 Posts
April 19 2012 15:05 GMT
#43366
On April 19 2012 23:57 herbie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 23:54 one-one-one wrote:
For the love of god!

Get a Terran representative on Sotg! Every Sotg.

So annoying that you always miss the terran perspective of things cos no one has anything to say.
Like recently when the Blizzard developer update was discussed and the changes to terran were discussed only briefly while zerg and protoss changes were discussed in way more detail.


Clearly blizzard has no idea in hell what to do with Terran, there are no "changes" just a load more bad ideas. The picture for the other races is much more clear.


That was only one example!

I have seen this happen a stupidly large amount of times.
I don't even watch Sotg regularly but everytime I happen to tune in I'm pissed off by the very same fact.
A bunch of fucking protoss and zerg plaerys being completely ignorant about the terran perspective.

Am I the only one angered by this?

I don't mean to whine. If it wasn't like this I would watch every episode cos I think the concept is awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BFY4R7IIP4#t=1710s
Fabozi
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
April 19 2012 15:07 GMT
#43367
Loved the appearance of TB you should bring him on more often.
FatkiddsLag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States413 Posts
April 19 2012 15:11 GMT
#43368
On April 20 2012 00:05 one-one-one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 23:57 herbie wrote:
On April 19 2012 23:54 one-one-one wrote:
For the love of god!

Get a Terran representative on Sotg! Every Sotg.

So annoying that you always miss the terran perspective of things cos no one has anything to say.
Like recently when the Blizzard developer update was discussed and the changes to terran were discussed only briefly while zerg and protoss changes were discussed in way more detail.


Clearly blizzard has no idea in hell what to do with Terran, there are no "changes" just a load more bad ideas. The picture for the other races is much more clear.


That was only one example!

I have seen this happen a stupidly large amount of times.
I don't even watch Sotg regularly but everytime I happen to tune in I'm pissed off by the very same fact.
A bunch of fucking protoss and zerg plaerys being completely ignorant about the terran perspective.

Am I the only one angered by this?

I don't mean to whine. If it wasn't like this I would watch every episode cos I think the concept is awesome.


If you don't watch regularly then you probably shouldn't assume so much. Also they do give s lot of insight into Terran. If you're that butt hurt go watch inside the game. You and painuser can go have a moment together.
FatkiddsLag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States413 Posts
April 19 2012 15:11 GMT
#43369
On April 20 2012 00:05 one-one-one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 23:57 herbie wrote:
On April 19 2012 23:54 one-one-one wrote:
For the love of god!

Get a Terran representative on Sotg! Every Sotg.

So annoying that you always miss the terran perspective of things cos no one has anything to say.
Like recently when the Blizzard developer update was discussed and the changes to terran were discussed only briefly while zerg and protoss changes were discussed in way more detail.


Clearly blizzard has no idea in hell what to do with Terran, there are no "changes" just a load more bad ideas. The picture for the other races is much more clear.


That was only one example!

I have seen this happen a stupidly large amount of times.
I don't even watch Sotg regularly but everytime I happen to tune in I'm pissed off by the very same fact.
A bunch of fucking protoss and zerg plaerys being completely ignorant about the terran perspective.

Am I the only one angered by this?

I don't mean to whine. If it wasn't like this I would watch every episode cos I think the concept is awesome.


If you don't watch regularly then you probably shouldn't assume so much. Also they do give s lot of insight into Terran. If you're that butt hurt go watch inside the game. You and painuser can go have a moment together.
one-one-one
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden551 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 15:24:12
April 19 2012 15:23 GMT
#43370
On April 20 2012 00:11 FatkiddsLag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 00:05 one-one-one wrote:
On April 19 2012 23:57 herbie wrote:
On April 19 2012 23:54 one-one-one wrote:
For the love of god!

Get a Terran representative on Sotg! Every Sotg.

So annoying that you always miss the terran perspective of things cos no one has anything to say.
Like recently when the Blizzard developer update was discussed and the changes to terran were discussed only briefly while zerg and protoss changes were discussed in way more detail.


Clearly blizzard has no idea in hell what to do with Terran, there are no "changes" just a load more bad ideas. The picture for the other races is much more clear.


That was only one example!

I have seen this happen a stupidly large amount of times.
I don't even watch Sotg regularly but everytime I happen to tune in I'm pissed off by the very same fact.
A bunch of fucking protoss and zerg plaerys being completely ignorant about the terran perspective.

Am I the only one angered by this?

I don't mean to whine. If it wasn't like this I would watch every episode cos I think the concept is awesome.


If you don't watch regularly then you probably shouldn't assume so much. Also they do give s lot of insight into Terran. If you're that butt hurt go watch inside the game. You and painuser can go have a moment together.


Can you not read?
I said that I observe the very same thing every time I watch an episode. And this has happened 10+ times.

I also don't like that you seem to not be very concerned about how important this is judging by the painuser comment.

What if Sotg had been run by a bunch of terrans during the beta? Neither of them acknowledging how OP their race is.
That would annoy you, I'm sure about it.

It is very offensive to hear a couple of tosses on the show talking about lategame PvT and complaining that the protoss army is worse than a terran army in an offensive position. And this happens at a time when every terran from bronze to GSL winner level has huge problems with TvP in the lategame.

Terrans are very under represented as casters and as participants on shows like Sotg.
And then people wonder why there are almost no terrans on the ladder anymore ... sigh.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BFY4R7IIP4#t=1710s
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 19 2012 15:51 GMT
#43371
MLG...
If they thought extended series was good to begin with, why would they remove it just because it's guaranteed to kick in because of the format?

"Oh no, this rule will have to be used. Quick, remove it!"
sjh
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada136 Posts
April 19 2012 15:53 GMT
#43372
I really liked TB on the show, clear and poignant questions, good comments. Please invite him back!
Ceterum ceseo Protatem esse delendam
shadowboxer
Profile Joined November 2010
United States224 Posts
April 19 2012 16:00 GMT
#43373
On April 20 2012 00:51 hugman wrote:
MLG...
If they thought extended series was good to begin with, why would they remove it just because it's guaranteed to kick in because of the format?

"Oh no, this rule will have to be used. Quick, remove it!"


It has to do with the extended series causing games to be cut short in a tournament that's already pretty small compared to an actual MLG, whether or not its a good rule doesn't apply. If every series past a certain point is already 2-0 and its a best of 3 then they have an extremely short tournament which is bad for viewers, sponsors and ultimately all of MLG.

"Hear that? That's God laughing at your plans."
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
April 19 2012 16:11 GMT
#43374
On April 20 2012 00:51 hugman wrote:
MLG...
If they thought extended series was good to begin with, why would they remove it just because it's guaranteed to kick in because of the format?

"Oh no, this rule will have to be used. Quick, remove it!"

lol why do you make fun of it when you don't understand it? your joke is kind of embarrassing in light of the fact that it doesn't make sense :o
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Scootaloo
Profile Joined January 2012
655 Posts
April 19 2012 17:03 GMT
#43375
I find it amusing how terrans are whining about imbalance in TvP when the most of the highest level tournaments still have terrans and the occasional zerg being the only races to take a finals.

The entire problem here is blizzards terrible policy to try to balance the game for both pro's and grandmothers in retirement homes looking for a change from their usual bingo.
Also their horrible "This race first" idea, Browder himself stated terran is the only race that actually feels finished, implying the others are shallow simplistic husks of what they should be, something which I find it hard to disagree with.
On pro levels terran has so many different strategies it can whip out and even more important, stop any effective scouting, as a result of this, in the name of 'balance' certain strategies from zerg and toss have to be extremely strong (collosi, roaches) to give them a good shot at taking out the terran.

For without those "OP" strategies the terran could just mindgame the other races to death, if all the units where truly balanced then the sheer range of units terran can produce in a short amount of time combined with good micro could would just do "terrible terrible damage" to any composition the other races can field, good micro is important, because as it is terran is the only race that has been designed with real pro play in mind, yes, ofcourse you can do sick zealot or roach micro but you won't increase their effectiveness by as much as say a kiting bioball.

Which is also why I believe there are so many terrans whining in here, whereas zergs and tosses will have a more gradual increase in skill/effectiveness in the higher echelons of play a terran will only truly be powerful when you have the skill to do crazy micro and have a real understanding of the sheer range of strategies it can use, i.e. Code A/S level, which is also where they start to dominate the game.

If they where planning to make a game suitable for E-Sports the whole idea to only give a single race enough attention to finish it is one of the worst ideas they could have ever fucking had because it would be exactly the way to create worst balancing hell.

I mean shit, they could've just done 2 expansions as far as I'm concerned, but don't give them this retarded race focus, seems like one of those Browder ideas that sounds like he did it on a whim because it sounded "cool".
Smackzilla
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States539 Posts
April 19 2012 17:42 GMT
#43376
On April 19 2012 23:54 one-one-one wrote:
For the love of god!

Get a Terran representative on Sotg! Every Sotg.

So annoying that you always miss the terran perspective of things cos no one has anything to say.
Like recently when the Blizzard developer update was discussed and the changes to terran were discussed only briefly while zerg and protoss changes were discussed in way more detail.



QXC was great, but yeah, he's rarely on. Second this.
You see a mousetrap. I see free cheese and a f&%*ing challenge - Scroobius Pip
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 18:22:17
April 19 2012 18:21 GMT
#43377
On April 20 2012 02:42 Smackzilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 23:54 one-one-one wrote:
For the love of god!

Get a Terran representative on Sotg! Every Sotg.

So annoying that you always miss the terran perspective of things cos no one has anything to say.
Like recently when the Blizzard developer update was discussed and the changes to terran were discussed only briefly while zerg and protoss changes were discussed in way more detail.



QXC was great, but yeah, he's rarely on. Second this.

Tell me one of them who play zerg as a main race ???

Tyler --- no, protoss
Incontrol --- no, protoss
Day9 --- no, random
JP --- no, random
Artosis --- no, protoss
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McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
April 19 2012 18:34 GMT
#43378
On April 20 2012 03:21 Toads wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 02:42 Smackzilla wrote:
On April 19 2012 23:54 one-one-one wrote:
For the love of god!

Get a Terran representative on Sotg! Every Sotg.

So annoying that you always miss the terran perspective of things cos no one has anything to say.
Like recently when the Blizzard developer update was discussed and the changes to terran were discussed only briefly while zerg and protoss changes were discussed in way more detail.



QXC was great, but yeah, he's rarely on. Second this.

Tell me one of them who play zerg as a main race ???

Tyler --- no, protoss
Incontrol --- no, protoss
Day9 --- no, random
JP --- no, random
Artosis --- no, protoss

IdrA (It's been a long time), Destiny, and Catz have all been on. Hell, Nestea was on once. Before QXC, there was Demuslim, and before that I cannot think of any. Point being I think Zerg has gotten representation that Terran (though it still pales in comparision to the Protoss representation).
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 19 2012 18:36 GMT
#43379
On April 20 2012 01:11 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 00:51 hugman wrote:
MLG...
If they thought extended series was good to begin with, why would they remove it just because it's guaranteed to kick in because of the format?

"Oh no, this rule will have to be used. Quick, remove it!"

lol why do you make fun of it when you don't understand it? your joke is kind of embarrassing in light of the fact that it doesn't make sense :o


What is it I don't understand?
MLG won't be using extended series for the event because if they did then every single game in the bracket play would be an extended series. My point was that it's funny how they have a problem with every game being extended series when they have done nothing but argue for how great the rule is. If it's great they wouldn't have a problem with it.
Smackzilla
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States539 Posts
April 19 2012 19:10 GMT
#43380
On April 20 2012 03:21 Toads wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 02:42 Smackzilla wrote:
On April 19 2012 23:54 one-one-one wrote:
For the love of god!

Get a Terran representative on Sotg! Every Sotg.

So annoying that you always miss the terran perspective of things cos no one has anything to say.
Like recently when the Blizzard developer update was discussed and the changes to terran were discussed only briefly while zerg and protoss changes were discussed in way more detail.



QXC was great, but yeah, he's rarely on. Second this.

Tell me one of them who play zerg as a main race ???

Tyler --- no, protoss
Incontrol --- no, protoss
Day9 --- no, random
JP --- no, random
Artosis --- no, protoss


Fair enough. Get catz back too! Dude's frickin hilarious.
You see a mousetrap. I see free cheese and a f&%*ing challenge - Scroobius Pip
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