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Khonsou
Profile Joined September 2011
Dominican Republic275 Posts
April 19 2012 19:18 GMT
#43381
Enormous thx to TB to say to tune in the french IronSquid stream. Considering Ponf&Thud organise it, it WILL kick ass and you'll enjoy it even if you don't speak french :D
A French living under the sun
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
April 19 2012 19:18 GMT
#43382
On April 20 2012 03:21 Toads wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 02:42 Smackzilla wrote:
On April 19 2012 23:54 one-one-one wrote:
For the love of god!

Get a Terran representative on Sotg! Every Sotg.

So annoying that you always miss the terran perspective of things cos no one has anything to say.
Like recently when the Blizzard developer update was discussed and the changes to terran were discussed only briefly while zerg and protoss changes were discussed in way more detail.



QXC was great, but yeah, he's rarely on. Second this.

Tell me one of them who play zerg as a main race ???

Tyler --- no, protoss
Incontrol --- no, protoss
Day9 --- no, random
JP --- no, random
Artosis --- no, protoss


Doesn't JP main zerg now?
OGS:levelchange
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
April 19 2012 19:34 GMT
#43383
On April 20 2012 04:18 thesideshow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 03:21 Toads wrote:
On April 20 2012 02:42 Smackzilla wrote:
On April 19 2012 23:54 one-one-one wrote:
For the love of god!

Get a Terran representative on Sotg! Every Sotg.

So annoying that you always miss the terran perspective of things cos no one has anything to say.
Like recently when the Blizzard developer update was discussed and the changes to terran were discussed only briefly while zerg and protoss changes were discussed in way more detail.



QXC was great, but yeah, he's rarely on. Second this.

Tell me one of them who play zerg as a main race ???

Tyler --- no, protoss
Incontrol --- no, protoss
Day9 --- no, random
JP --- no, random
Artosis --- no, protoss


Doesn't JP main zerg now?

I don't know. Last time i've tune to his stream he was random
(。◕ ω ◕。) Beer Time !!!! (。◕ ω ◕。)
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 19 2012 19:48 GMT
#43384
On April 20 2012 03:21 Toads wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 02:42 Smackzilla wrote:
On April 19 2012 23:54 one-one-one wrote:
For the love of god!

Get a Terran representative on Sotg! Every Sotg.

So annoying that you always miss the terran perspective of things cos no one has anything to say.
Like recently when the Blizzard developer update was discussed and the changes to terran were discussed only briefly while zerg and protoss changes were discussed in way more detail.



QXC was great, but yeah, he's rarely on. Second this.

Tell me one of them who play zerg as a main race ???

Tyler --- no, protoss
Incontrol --- no, protoss
Day9 --- no, random
JP --- no, random
Artosis --- no, protoss


I don't understand why people get so freaked out over what race people play. I play protoss and zerg, but I love it when Idra is on the show and QXC was awesome. But I don't really care what race they play, it is more about the people and if they have interesting things to say.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
April 19 2012 19:53 GMT
#43385
I'm 100% with you, I was not complaining
(。◕ ω ◕。) Beer Time !!!! (。◕ ω ◕。)
svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
April 19 2012 19:54 GMT
#43386
JP plays zerg. I'm not really sure that counts, though. No offense, JP.

As a zerg player I don't care if they all play zerg or none of them. Just keep doing what you're doing.
Panthae
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada205 Posts
April 19 2012 20:09 GMT
#43387
1h45m12s was a great manner moment.
For Aïur?
Ornithorynquez
Profile Joined August 2009
430 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 20:11:09
April 19 2012 20:10 GMT
#43388
Did they talk in a recent show about the next BW proleague season being mixed up with SC2 games ? I'd like to hear their opinion about that.

So, if anyone knows, just tell me which episode it is, please
I have to return some videotapes.
Panthae
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada205 Posts
April 19 2012 20:16 GMT
#43389
On April 20 2012 05:10 Ornithorynquez wrote:
Did they talk in a recent show about the next BW proleague season being mixed up with SC2 games ? I'd like to hear their opinion about that.

So, if anyone knows, just tell me which episode it is, please


I think they touched base on that in the PAX episode.
For Aïur?
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
April 19 2012 20:28 GMT
#43390
After every show people complain about not having a representative of each race... It really doesn't matter - they spend like 20 minutes of a 2 hour show on the actual game anyway. Seriously what non korean terran would be able to regularly do the show and have a decent personality? If you care that much then watch itg.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
FatkiddsLag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States413 Posts
April 19 2012 23:24 GMT
#43391
On April 20 2012 00:23 one-one-one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 00:11 FatkiddsLag wrote:
On April 20 2012 00:05 one-one-one wrote:
On April 19 2012 23:57 herbie wrote:
On April 19 2012 23:54 one-one-one wrote:
For the love of god!

Get a Terran representative on Sotg! Every Sotg.

So annoying that you always miss the terran perspective of things cos no one has anything to say.
Like recently when the Blizzard developer update was discussed and the changes to terran were discussed only briefly while zerg and protoss changes were discussed in way more detail.


Clearly blizzard has no idea in hell what to do with Terran, there are no "changes" just a load more bad ideas. The picture for the other races is much more clear.


That was only one example!

I have seen this happen a stupidly large amount of times.
I don't even watch Sotg regularly but everytime I happen to tune in I'm pissed off by the very same fact.
A bunch of fucking protoss and zerg plaerys being completely ignorant about the terran perspective.

Am I the only one angered by this?

I don't mean to whine. If it wasn't like this I would watch every episode cos I think the concept is awesome.


If you don't watch regularly then you probably shouldn't assume so much. Also they do give s lot of insight into Terran. If you're that butt hurt go watch inside the game. You and painuser can go have a moment together.


Can you not read?
I said that I observe the very same thing every time I watch an episode. And this has happened 10+ times.

I also don't like that you seem to not be very concerned about how important this is judging by the painuser comment.

What if Sotg had been run by a bunch of terrans during the beta? Neither of them acknowledging how OP their race is.
That would annoy you, I'm sure about it.

It is very offensive to hear a couple of tosses on the show talking about lategame PvT and complaining that the protoss army is worse than a terran army in an offensive position. And this happens at a time when every terran from bronze to GSL winner level has huge problems with TvP in the lategame.

Terrans are very under represented as casters and as participants on shows like Sotg.
And then people wonder why there are almost no terrans on the ladder anymore ... sigh.



they do talk about toss being op. when toss was on a tear or they made the Terran nerfs or toss buffs they spoke plent, especially incontrol, about how much better toss has it. I remember them talking about the ghost nerf as too much and stuff like that. Plus I don't want to listen to a podcast that just bitches about balance anyway. They should leave it out entirely.
Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
April 20 2012 01:14 GMT
#43392
On April 20 2012 08:24 FatkiddsLag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 00:23 one-one-one wrote:
On April 20 2012 00:11 FatkiddsLag wrote:
On April 20 2012 00:05 one-one-one wrote:
On April 19 2012 23:57 herbie wrote:
On April 19 2012 23:54 one-one-one wrote:
For the love of god!

Get a Terran representative on Sotg! Every Sotg.

So annoying that you always miss the terran perspective of things cos no one has anything to say.
Like recently when the Blizzard developer update was discussed and the changes to terran were discussed only briefly while zerg and protoss changes were discussed in way more detail.


Clearly blizzard has no idea in hell what to do with Terran, there are no "changes" just a load more bad ideas. The picture for the other races is much more clear.


That was only one example!

I have seen this happen a stupidly large amount of times.
I don't even watch Sotg regularly but everytime I happen to tune in I'm pissed off by the very same fact.
A bunch of fucking protoss and zerg plaerys being completely ignorant about the terran perspective.

Am I the only one angered by this?

I don't mean to whine. If it wasn't like this I would watch every episode cos I think the concept is awesome.


If you don't watch regularly then you probably shouldn't assume so much. Also they do give s lot of insight into Terran. If you're that butt hurt go watch inside the game. You and painuser can go have a moment together.


Can you not read?
I said that I observe the very same thing every time I watch an episode. And this has happened 10+ times.

I also don't like that you seem to not be very concerned about how important this is judging by the painuser comment.

What if Sotg had been run by a bunch of terrans during the beta? Neither of them acknowledging how OP their race is.
That would annoy you, I'm sure about it.

It is very offensive to hear a couple of tosses on the show talking about lategame PvT and complaining that the protoss army is worse than a terran army in an offensive position. And this happens at a time when every terran from bronze to GSL winner level has huge problems with TvP in the lategame.

Terrans are very under represented as casters and as participants on shows like Sotg.
And then people wonder why there are almost no terrans on the ladder anymore ... sigh.



they do talk about toss being op. when toss was on a tear or they made the Terran nerfs or toss buffs they spoke plent, especially incontrol, about how much better toss has it. I remember them talking about the ghost nerf as too much and stuff like that. Plus I don't want to listen to a podcast that just bitches about balance anyway. They should leave it out entirely.

The discussion about patches and hots updates are actually my favorite part of the show.
all's fair in love and melodies
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
April 20 2012 04:46 GMT
#43393
On April 20 2012 03:36 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 01:11 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On April 20 2012 00:51 hugman wrote:
MLG...
If they thought extended series was good to begin with, why would they remove it just because it's guaranteed to kick in because of the format?

"Oh no, this rule will have to be used. Quick, remove it!"

lol why do you make fun of it when you don't understand it? your joke is kind of embarrassing in light of the fact that it doesn't make sense :o


What is it I don't understand?
MLG won't be using extended series for the event because if they did then every single game in the bracket play would be an extended series. My point was that it's funny how they have a problem with every game being extended series when they have done nothing but argue for how great the rule is. If it's great they wouldn't have a problem with it.


Because there are group rounds before the bracket, everyone will have an extended series against everyone else. However, the group rounds also give preferential seeding in the bracket. This means that people who are seeded into the semifinals could meet an opponent whom they had lost to in the group stage and wind up starting from behind even though They took first or second in the group and got the preferential seeding. It would allow the possibility of your reward,the preferential seeding, actually being a punishment since you are forced to start down a set or two.

I don't know the exact rules, but I'm pretty sure this sort of thing doesn't happen the same way in the other mlg events, since a player has to fall to the losers bracket to meet a player he had a previous series with.

That said, it has always been a controversial rule, and I can see why people can be extremely upset by it.
coolcor
Profile Joined February 2011
520 Posts
April 20 2012 05:12 GMT
#43394
On April 20 2012 13:46 phyren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 03:36 hugman wrote:
On April 20 2012 01:11 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On April 20 2012 00:51 hugman wrote:
MLG...
If they thought extended series was good to begin with, why would they remove it just because it's guaranteed to kick in because of the format?

"Oh no, this rule will have to be used. Quick, remove it!"

lol why do you make fun of it when you don't understand it? your joke is kind of embarrassing in light of the fact that it doesn't make sense :o


What is it I don't understand?
MLG won't be using extended series for the event because if they did then every single game in the bracket play would be an extended series. My point was that it's funny how they have a problem with every game being extended series when they have done nothing but argue for how great the rule is. If it's great they wouldn't have a problem with it.


Because there are group rounds before the bracket, everyone will have an extended series against everyone else. However, the group rounds also give preferential seeding in the bracket. This means that people who are seeded into the semifinals could meet an opponent whom they had lost to in the group stage and wind up starting from behind even though They took first or second in the group and got the preferential seeding. It would allow the possibility of your reward,the preferential seeding, actually being a punishment since you are forced to start down a set or two.

I don't know the exact rules, but I'm pretty sure this sort of thing doesn't happen the same way in the other mlg events, since a player has to fall to the losers bracket to meet a player he had a previous series with.

That said, it has always been a controversial rule, and I can see why people can be extremely upset by it.


But the same is true in the normal MLGs a person can be seeded farther in the losers bracket and have somebody that happened to beat them in pools fight there way up and face them. It is also possible for the person coming from the losers bracket to have an advantage in the finals if they happened to win against the person from the winners bracket in pool play.
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
April 22 2012 10:23 GMT
#43395
So when's the next episode?
"En taro adun, Executor."
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
April 22 2012 11:01 GMT
#43396
I can understand people wanting more Z and T on the show

However the people who are regulars are there because they are JPs friends and make often time to do the show, plus they all add alot to the show. We have seen people being invited and were just too camera shy or didnt do well on a podcast.

It has nothing to do with them being Protoss, they played different races in BW. So its not some crazy conspiracy to get sway Blizzard to listen to a pro Toss podcast.
★ Top Gun ★
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
April 23 2012 10:56 GMT
#43397
On April 20 2012 05:10 Ornithorynquez wrote:
Did they talk in a recent show about the next BW proleague season being mixed up with SC2 games ? I'd like to hear their opinion about that.

So, if anyone knows, just tell me which episode it is, please


I feel like JP shunns Brood War from his show since he doesn't know the scene at all and wants to keep the podcast SC2 only. Plus I imagine all the pillars on the show don't follow the current Brood War scene much if at all and couldn't give accurate information.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
April 23 2012 11:02 GMT
#43398
Last time it was one hour discussion about MLG and ten minutes of DH.

I wonder what the ratio will be the next episode:

Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
April 23 2012 11:02 GMT
#43399
On April 23 2012 19:56 onedayclose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 05:10 Ornithorynquez wrote:
Did they talk in a recent show about the next BW proleague season being mixed up with SC2 games ? I'd like to hear their opinion about that.

So, if anyone knows, just tell me which episode it is, please


I feel like JP shunns Brood War from his show since he doesn't know the scene at all and wants to keep the podcast SC2 only. Plus I imagine all the pillars on the show don't follow the current Brood War scene much if at all and couldn't give accurate information.


Pretty sure most of them still follow BW. All of them watched Jangbi win OSL and were more than happy to discuss it on the show while none of them seemed to show any interest at all towards some other event that happened at roughly the same time (GSL maybe? Not sure).
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
April 23 2012 11:05 GMT
#43400
On April 23 2012 20:02 ceaRshaf wrote:
Last time it was one hour discussion about MLG and ten minutes of DH.

I wonder what the ratio will be the next episode:



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