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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 23 2012 11:05 GMT
#43401
On April 23 2012 20:02 ceaRshaf wrote:
Last time it was one hour discussion about MLG and ten minutes of DH.

I wonder what the ratio will be the next episode:



With Incontrol being at DH and not at MLG, we can hope for a more reasonable split.
But other than him, noone will have seen the DH games so..
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Ireniicus
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom374 Posts
April 23 2012 11:16 GMT
#43402
I watched a lot of content from both and both were good but Dreamhack was superior in almost every way (I admit the MLG final was awesome) so I am hoping for some balance to ensure SotG stays relevant
SupeR z
Profile Joined February 2012
United States73 Posts
April 23 2012 11:58 GMT
#43403
On April 23 2012 20:16 Ireniicus wrote:
I watched a lot of content from both and both were good but Dreamhack was superior in almost every way (I admit the MLG final was awesome) so I am hoping for some balance to ensure SotG stays relevant



my opinion was that dreamhak was subpar until the final day

then the final day was amazing

MLG was pretty consistant and better than the first day of dreamhak
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
April 23 2012 12:00 GMT
#43404
On April 23 2012 20:02 ceaRshaf wrote:
Last time it was one hour discussion about MLG and ten minutes of DH.

I wonder what the ratio will be the next episode:



just watch inside the game.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
April 23 2012 12:49 GMT
#43405
On April 23 2012 20:58 SupeR z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 20:16 Ireniicus wrote:
I watched a lot of content from both and both were good but Dreamhack was superior in almost every way (I admit the MLG final was awesome) so I am hoping for some balance to ensure SotG stays relevant



my opinion was that dreamhak was subpar until the final day

then the final day was amazing

MLG was pretty consistant and better than the first day of dreamhak


But the first day of dreamhack is like 10% the quality of the final event.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
April 23 2012 12:58 GMT
#43406
MLG's games were far better than DH's. Having fpview was a nice perk too. Of course, I happen to be a fan of SC2. I know a lot of people in the community are bigger fans of white people and shots of people clapping and cheering.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 13:01:59
April 23 2012 13:01 GMT
#43407
On April 23 2012 21:58 Liquid`NonY wrote:
MLG's games were far better than DH's. Having fpview was a nice perk too. Of course, I happen to be a fan of SC2. I know a lot of people in the community are bigger fans of white people and shots of people clapping and cheering.


By this standards IPL 4 is the best event that there ever was. Sorry but a tournament is also about the mood and production value.

Mess with the best, die like the rest.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 13:03:35
April 23 2012 13:01 GMT
#43408
On April 23 2012 20:05 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 20:02 ceaRshaf wrote:
Last time it was one hour discussion about MLG and ten minutes of DH.

I wonder what the ratio will be the next episode:



With Incontrol being at DH and not at MLG, we can hope for a more reasonable split.
But other than him, noone will have seen the DH games so..


why not. none of them were at mlg except jp
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
April 23 2012 13:03 GMT
#43409
On April 23 2012 21:58 Liquid`NonY wrote:
MLG's games were far better than DH's. Having fpview was a nice perk too. Of course, I happen to be a fan of SC2. I know a lot of people in the community are bigger fans of white people and shots of people clapping and cheering.




I just saw your post, so not sure if sarcastic, but THANK YOU!!

As a fan of sc2, so sick and tired of the korean whining when koreans win. So many racists on TL, they only support "foreign players" which in most cases are white ppl.

iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 23 2012 13:04 GMT
#43410
lololol tyler

I'm sorry but you ran track/cross country. The idea of you not appreciating crowds is incredibly underwhelming
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 13:05:20
April 23 2012 13:04 GMT
#43411
On April 23 2012 22:03 jj33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 21:58 Liquid`NonY wrote:
MLG's games were far better than DH's. Having fpview was a nice perk too. Of course, I happen to be a fan of SC2. I know a lot of people in the community are bigger fans of white people and shots of people clapping and cheering.




I just saw your post, so not sure if sarcastic, but THANK YOU!!

As a fan of sc2, so sick and tired of the korean whining when koreans win. So many racists on TL, they only support "foreign players" which in most cases are white ppl.



supporting a certain player/team/country in sports isnt racist.

On April 23 2012 22:04 iNcontroL wrote:
lololol tyler

I'm sorry but you ran track/cross country. The idea of you not appreciating crowds is incredibly underwhelming


hey thats not fair, there are no crowds for cross country.... ;D
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
April 23 2012 13:05 GMT
#43412
On April 23 2012 22:01 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 21:58 Liquid`NonY wrote:
MLG's games were far better than DH's. Having fpview was a nice perk too. Of course, I happen to be a fan of SC2. I know a lot of people in the community are bigger fans of white people and shots of people clapping and cheering.


By this standards IPL 4 is the best event that there ever was. Sorry but a tournament is also about the mood and production value.




He didn't claim any standard, he just said MLG was better because quite frankly the player list was way better and the games were better as a result.

jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
April 23 2012 13:06 GMT
#43413
On April 23 2012 22:04 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 22:03 jj33 wrote:
On April 23 2012 21:58 Liquid`NonY wrote:
MLG's games were far better than DH's. Having fpview was a nice perk too. Of course, I happen to be a fan of SC2. I know a lot of people in the community are bigger fans of white people and shots of people clapping and cheering.




I just saw your post, so not sure if sarcastic, but THANK YOU!!

As a fan of sc2, so sick and tired of the korean whining when koreans win. So many racists on TL, they only support "foreign players" which in most cases are white ppl.



supporting a certain player/team/country in sports isnt racist.

Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 22:04 iNcontroL wrote:
lololol tyler

I'm sorry but you ran track/cross country. The idea of you not appreciating crowds is incredibly underwhelming


hey thats not fair, there are no crowds for cross country.... ;D



NO it isn't but the level it happens on TL is.

Always the suble jabs are koreans, saying they are robots etc etc and how they just tune off when they don't no more foreigners left.

Also about supporting country, oh so now all foreigners are all 1 country? right.
krisss
Profile Joined November 2010
Luxembourg305 Posts
April 23 2012 13:07 GMT
#43414
On April 23 2012 22:03 jj33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 21:58 Liquid`NonY wrote:
MLG's games were far better than DH's. Having fpview was a nice perk too. Of course, I happen to be a fan of SC2. I know a lot of people in the community are bigger fans of white people and shots of people clapping and cheering.




I just saw your post, so not sure if sarcastic, but THANK YOU!!

As a fan of sc2, so sick and tired of the korean whining when koreans win. So many racists on TL, they only support "foreign players" which in most cases are white ppl.



thats just a stupid comment.
atmosphere is a big part of any sports. If there were 8 foreigners in a room playing games without any audience and 128 koreans battling it out with a MASSIVE crowd, i would watch the koreans. this has nothing to do with racism.
life is like fighting a dinosaur.. it's pretty hard.
ronpaul012
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
April 23 2012 13:07 GMT
#43415
Why is there a need to pit one tournament vs another? Had it been monster instead of thorzain in the finals the event would have felt totally different. In the end, the tougher and more prestigious tournament of the weekend was mlg, but the more exciting and easier to follow was dreamhack. One was not better than the other, it just depends on if you like watching better games or if you care about watching a great storyline.
I'm a gooner.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
April 23 2012 13:08 GMT
#43416
On April 23 2012 22:05 jj33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 22:01 ceaRshaf wrote:
On April 23 2012 21:58 Liquid`NonY wrote:
MLG's games were far better than DH's. Having fpview was a nice perk too. Of course, I happen to be a fan of SC2. I know a lot of people in the community are bigger fans of white people and shots of people clapping and cheering.


By this standards IPL 4 is the best event that there ever was. Sorry but a tournament is also about the mood and production value.




He didn't claim any standard, he just said MLG was better because quite frankly the player list was way better and the games were better as a result.



So what exactly you didn't understand from my post?

A tournament is not only about games, there are lots and lots of other factors that add up and define a tournament as being good. If he is talking from a progamers perspective that he wants to learn new things or study strategies then ok, but tournaments are not made for progamers but for the masses, casual masses.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Krejven
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden105 Posts
April 23 2012 13:09 GMT
#43417
Guess nationalism is racism nowadays. Them Americans must be the biggest racists around by that standard. :D

+ Show Spoiler +
sarcasm
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
Bashy
Profile Joined April 2011
63 Posts
April 23 2012 13:10 GMT
#43418
haha yeah stop cheering for foreigners you are all so racist . we should ban all foreigners from tournaments bc all the non korean fans cheer for them .
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
April 23 2012 13:11 GMT
#43419
On April 23 2012 22:08 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 22:05 jj33 wrote:
On April 23 2012 22:01 ceaRshaf wrote:
On April 23 2012 21:58 Liquid`NonY wrote:
MLG's games were far better than DH's. Having fpview was a nice perk too. Of course, I happen to be a fan of SC2. I know a lot of people in the community are bigger fans of white people and shots of people clapping and cheering.


By this standards IPL 4 is the best event that there ever was. Sorry but a tournament is also about the mood and production value.




He didn't claim any standard, he just said MLG was better because quite frankly the player list was way better and the games were better as a result.



So what exactly you didn't understand from my post?

A tournament is not only about games, there are lots and lots of other factors that add up and define a tournament as being good. If he is talking from a progamers perspective that he wants to learn new things or study strategies then ok, but tournaments are not made for progamers but for the masses, casual masses.



you want atmosphere and drama go watch wwe.

sc2 is a highly competitive game, ultimately the skill level is what matters.
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
April 23 2012 13:11 GMT
#43420
On April 23 2012 21:58 Liquid`NonY wrote:
MLG's games were far better than DH's. Having fpview was a nice perk too. Of course, I happen to be a fan of SC2. I know a lot of people in the community are bigger fans of white people and shots of people clapping and cheering.


i hope your joking cause damn...
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