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Hrwa
Croatia147 Posts
On June 29 2011 09:47 cyprin wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/hjjwd/incontrol_is_resigning_as_host_of_sotg/ wheat's comments in this thread amuse me greatly, considering the context available now. Exactly what I was thinking, I am very saddened with EG and djWheat. | ||
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adeptz
Australia220 Posts
Still expect half the replies here to be like "oh f*** EG yadadadadaa" though (cause you're just stupid). | ||
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On June 29 2011 09:55 EtohEtoh wrote: can somebody recap Alex's statement, i missed it SotG was on the verge of getting a sponsorship from a company who are a rival to one of EG's sponsors. If that deal had gone through, Geoff would have to had quit the show. In response EG looked into forming their own show with their own sponsors, that's where ITG came from. In the end the deal with SotG never went through. But by that point ITG was a done deal and ready to roll out. Incontrol was overloaded with work at this point and had to make cuts and so had to make a choice. ITG pays while SotG doesn't so he chose ITG. That's what I got out of it anyway. | ||
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Aurdon
United States2007 Posts
Let Incontrol do what he wants to do. He only has so much time. Don't hate if he has to make hard choices on how to spend that time. | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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Kich
United States339 Posts
On June 29 2011 09:46 Stijn wrote: Basically, SotG was about to get a sponsor deal from a team that was not EG, creating an obvious conflict of interest for Incontrol. In mutual understanding EG decided to set up their own show (Inside the Game), with Incontrol on it. The SotG deal fell through but ITG was already mostly set up so they decided to go through with it? No, SOTG was going to get a sponsorship that conflicted with one of EG's sponsors (not EG, one of EG's sponsors that would force InControl off of the show). EG did not want InControl off the show, so in order to keep him on the show, they decided to make an offer to SOTG as well. SOTG did not take their offer, it was assumed that SOTG was taking the other offer, so in order for InControl to continue doing a show, they made a show for him. Afterwards, after the show was ready to launch, it was found out that SOTG did not accept the offer that would force InControl off of the show, but it was too late and they had to go through with their show. (Note: they had to, there was no option, they couldn't cancel it at that point, it had to happen) InControl has now decided to stay on ITG and focus on playing. ITG pays him, and as much as it'd be awesome for him to be able to do everything--he's getting paid for ITG which assists him as a player. And that's fine. SOTG will miss him, we'll all miss him on SOTG, but shit happens and you people really need to move on. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
On June 29 2011 09:58 Aurdon wrote: Back the F off, man. Let Incontrol do what he wants to do. He only has so much time. Don't hate if he has to make hard choices on how to spend that time. this. seriously people, back off. | ||
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billyX333
United States1360 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On June 29 2011 09:54 Soleron wrote: Is EG wrong? After hearing this, no. Doesn't change the community's desire to have Geoff on SOTG. PLEASE rearrange your commercial side to let this happen. Tell us how much we need to donate to make that happen. To be honest, a lot of complaints, like what Tyler and Destiny said, were actually on the lack of transparency of the whole situation. This changes basically nothing on that, if anything it may have made that even worse, because the reason is reasonable, so being more transparent could have avoided this shitstorm. Without transparency, people will always assume things. Ussualy the worst things, and any shread of evidence will just create a bunch of drama. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On June 29 2011 09:58 adeptz wrote: Perfectly reasonable explanation from EG if you actually HAVE a brain and can understand what's going on. Still expect half the replies here to be like "oh f*** EG yadadadadaa" though (cause you're just stupid) This doesn't make sense. A lot of hate will still be around even though the explanation is reasonable. The problem is it's basically exactly what everyone was saying. They just completely denied what everyone was saying and even some community figures backslashed at people saying this. It's perfectly understandable to be upset and being lied to and deceived(Only given partial truth). | ||
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
On June 29 2011 09:56 Duka08 wrote: But he didn't take the offer lol. Alex said it himself, that whole ordeal that "started" this chain of events fell through. And you are perfectly aware that all these events took place one after one on the timeline? Did you even listen to Alex' statements? Read it that way: JP didn't get his shit together. Said to take the offer, EG set up a new show so Geoff wouldn't "loose money". Oh too bad, JP actually didn't take it. Is that the better "truth"? Hell no, and that is why EG chose not to engage in that whole matter. | ||
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Fishriot
United States621 Posts
On June 29 2011 09:55 rotegirte wrote: And you go fuck yourself. JP has been working his ass off, for just recently being hired by MLG. He has been doing SOTG and all his other community work for literally nothing. It is perfectly understandable, the moment he gets a sponsorship offer we would likely take it. And if you still don't see how sponsors are needed and a good thing and sponsorship conflicts are natural occurrences, I really don't know. I fail to even see what you are trying to argue here. I didn't mention JP at all in my original post. Neither did I say sponsorships are a bad thing. The bottom line (in my opinion of course) is that EG as a company was extremely deceptive in this situation. I have ABSOLUTELY nothing against iNcontroL, JP, or anyone other than the management of EG. | ||
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LeFroMaGe
United States628 Posts
QFT. I hope this community doesn't stray too far from the community it has been for the last year + | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
On June 29 2011 09:55 EtohEtoh wrote: can somebody recap Alex's statement, i missed it His statement was essentially: - JP got a sponsorship offer from an organization that would have been in conflict with EG's interest - EG set up a similar show because Geoff wanted to keep that kind of "show" in his repertoire, and offered to give him the share of SotG's sponsorship money he would have been receiving - The SotG sponsorship fell through, but EG was invested enough in ITG that they decided to carry on with it - Shortly after ITG started, EG's management approached Geoff and expressed that they felt he was overtasked, which he had alluded to and agreed with, and he would like to progress as a player first. - SotG was near the top of the list of obligations to scratch off (EG's attachments with ITG, etc.) NASL also fell (though I don't think he mentioned it in the statement, but obviously this happened). [Note I don't mean they did this maliciously at all, just that these were the obligations Geoff and the management chose first to remove to lighten the load.] That's really as far as he went, the rest is just "we had no intention to screw over Geoff, SotG, JP, or anything of the sort." | ||
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
On June 29 2011 10:00 Numy wrote: This doesn't make sense. A lot of hate will still be around even though the explanation is reasonable. The problem is it's basically exactly what everyone was saying. They just completely denied what everyone was saying and even some community figures backslashed at people saying this. It's perfectly understandable to be upset and being lied to and deceived(Only given partial truth). But it wasn't really their call to say something like "JP trolled us by not taking the offer after all". | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
any fun or laughter seems forced and unnatural like the final "drunk" episode of SOTG. =( | ||
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Stijn
Netherlands363 Posts
On June 29 2011 09:59 Kich wrote: InControl has now decided to stay on ITG and focus on playing. ITG pays him, and as much as it'd be awesome for him to be able to do everything--he's getting paid for ITG which assists him as a player. And that's fine. SOTG will miss him, we'll all miss him on SOTG, but shit happens and you people really need to move on. I don't know if you're addressing me with "you people", but I personally think the way things went is perfectly reasonable. I was just trying to recap what I heard. | ||
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Jayrod
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YourGoodFriend
United States2197 Posts
So Geoff be awesome and wreck face man and thanks for everything | ||
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LeFroMaGe
United States628 Posts
On June 29 2011 10:00 Fishriot wrote: I fail to even see what you are trying to argue here. I didn't mention JP at all in my original post. Neither did I say sponsorships are a bad thing. The bottom line (in my opinion of course) is that EG as a company was extremely deceptive in this situation. I have ABSOLUTELY nothing against iNcontroL, JP, or anyone other than the management of EG. I don't know if you were listening, but i'm going to try and break this simple fact down for you. Sponsors are what make these teams run. Think about that then look at the situation. They tried to get their sponsor to do the equivalent of what SotG was getting for their show in sponsorship, unfortunately that fell through. edit1: and honestly look at how much EG was all over that show with Idra and InControl... | ||
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