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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
June 29 2011 00:51 GMT
#25681
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Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
June 29 2011 00:52 GMT
#25682
On June 29 2011 09:46 Stijn wrote:
Basically, SotG was about to get a sponsor deal from a team that was not EG, creating an obvious conflict of interest for Incontrol. In mutual understanding EG decided to set up their own show (Inside the Game), with Incontrol on it. The SotG deal fell through but ITG was already mostly set up so they decided to go through with it?

Basically the only part I missed in your explanation was why they handled it so poorly...

It doesnt matter though.. I heard a caller earlier on inside the game asking questions about saturating his base ... id watch an HDHusky cast if I wanted something explained to me that I couldnt find in 5 seconds on TL.net.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
June 29 2011 00:52 GMT
#25683
On June 29 2011 09:50 Fishriot wrote:
Jesus christ this is getting me pretty angry. So it was pretty much about money? That's the message I'm getting here. Add to that the hypocrisy of this Alex guy constantly repeating that "they never wanted to screw over SotG" after that's exactly what they did is adding more wood to the fire that is this PR fuck up. I am a huge fan of iNcontroL, and this isn't going to change, but EG as a team and as a company can go fuck themselves in my book.


maybe finish 9th grade, and then maybe you'll understand the issue here.

User was warned for this post
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
June 29 2011 00:53 GMT
#25684
Wait state of the game is on today?


Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
June 29 2011 00:53 GMT
#25685
On June 29 2011 09:46 Stijn wrote:
Basically, SotG was about to get a sponsor deal from a team that was not EG, creating an obvious conflict of interest for Incontrol. In mutual understanding EG decided to set up their own show (Inside the Game), with Incontrol on it. The SotG deal fell through but ITG was already mostly set up so they decided to go through with it?

This, and then the management (and himself probably) felt that Incontrol was overtasked as a player and they decided to start slimming his obligations, starting with SotG - but now NASL as well so it can't be that malicious.

I understand why EG believes they don't HAVE to say this in a press release or anything, which they absolutely don't if it had been slightly more transparent from the start. However when they started denying it and making a... weird deal about it themselves I feel the best move would have been to simply make a statement and be done with it. The community pretty much agrees its not what happened but how, which this would have eliminated instantaneously. I haven't been in charge of anything of this scale though. The whole thing's just...... weird lol.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
June 29 2011 00:53 GMT
#25686
On June 29 2011 09:52 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 09:50 Fishriot wrote:
Jesus christ this is getting me pretty angry. So it was pretty much about money? That's the message I'm getting here. Add to that the hypocrisy of this Alex guy constantly repeating that "they never wanted to screw over SotG" after that's exactly what they did is adding more wood to the fire that is this PR fuck up. I am a huge fan of iNcontroL, and this isn't going to change, but EG as a team and as a company can go fuck themselves in my book.


maybe finish 9th grade, and then maybe you'll understand the issue here.



Or you could not make an assumption about his education and set him straight.
Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
June 29 2011 00:53 GMT
#25687
People need to realize EG is a business. They aren't there to just watch starcraft.
RIP MBC Game Hero
Frooook
Profile Joined June 2011
United States10 Posts
June 29 2011 00:53 GMT
#25688
On June 29 2011 09:46 Stijn wrote:
Basically, SotG was about to get a sponsor deal from a team that was not EG, creating an obvious conflict of interest for Incontrol. In mutual understanding EG decided to set up their own show (Inside the Game), with Incontrol on it. The SotG deal fell through but ITG was already mostly set up so they decided to go through with it?


This is precisely what I'm getting from this statement and this sounds perfectly reasonable.
Stijn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands363 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 00:54:03
June 29 2011 00:53 GMT
#25689
On June 29 2011 09:52 Jayrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 09:46 Stijn wrote:
Basically, SotG was about to get a sponsor deal from a team that was not EG, creating an obvious conflict of interest for Incontrol. In mutual understanding EG decided to set up their own show (Inside the Game), with Incontrol on it. The SotG deal fell through but ITG was already mostly set up so they decided to go through with it?

Basically the only part I missed in your explanation was why they handled it so poorly...

Well yeah, I don't really get that either, I think if they'd just have been upfront about it there'd be a lot less drama. People would obviously still be upset about business getting involved, but that's unavoidable. Business, god forbid! But hey, those progaming salaries and prize pools have to come from somewhere after all.
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Toik
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia20 Posts
June 29 2011 00:54 GMT
#25690
One thing's for sure, I now have a team to passionately hate when a team league gets started in the west.

Fuck EG.

User was temp banned for this post.
csd
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
June 29 2011 00:54 GMT
#25691
Is EG wrong? After hearing this, no.

Doesn't change the community's desire to have Geoff on SOTG. PLEASE rearrange your commercial side to let this happen. Tell us how much we need to donate to make that happen.
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
June 29 2011 00:55 GMT
#25692
On June 29 2011 09:50 Fishriot wrote:
Jesus christ this is getting me pretty angry. So it was pretty much about money? That's the message I'm getting here. Add to that the hypocrisy of this Alex guy constantly repeating that "they never wanted to screw over SotG" after that's exactly what they did is adding more wood to the fire that is this PR fuck up. I am a huge fan of iNcontroL, and this isn't going to change, but EG as a team and as a company can go fuck themselves in my book.


And you go fuck yourself. JP has been working his ass off, for just recently being hired by MLG. He has been doing SOTG and all his other community work for literally nothing. It is perfectly understandable, the moment he gets a sponsorship offer we would likely take it. And if you still don't see how sponsors are needed and a good thing and sponsorship conflicts are natural occurrences, I really don't know.
EtohEtoh
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada669 Posts
June 29 2011 00:55 GMT
#25693
can somebody recap Alex's statement, i missed it
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
June 29 2011 00:55 GMT
#25694
SOTG made you incontrol lol
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 00:56:33
June 29 2011 00:56 GMT
#25695
On June 29 2011 09:51 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 09:50 Fishriot wrote:
Jesus christ this is getting me pretty angry. So it was pretty much about money? That's the message I'm getting here. Add to that the hypocrisy of this Alex guy constantly repeating that "they never wanted to screw over SotG" after that's exactly what they did is adding more wood to the fire that is this PR fuck up. I am a huge fan of iNcontroL, and this isn't going to change, but EG as a team and as a company can go fuck themselves in my book.

Oh well, ill stick with not watching ITG. I love wheat and lo3, but i will stay away from itg no doubt.


i'm definitely staying away from it as well.. i enjoy listening to what wheat does but ITG isn't anywhere near as enjoyable that SOTG was.
Live it, love it, play it, kill it. JulyZerg and IPXZerg greatest TL.net fan
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
June 29 2011 00:56 GMT
#25696
Just let the guy do state of the game.

This puts EG and its sponsors in SUCH a bad light;( I guess they hoped they never had to come out and explain the situation.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
June 29 2011 00:56 GMT
#25697
On June 29 2011 09:55 rotegirte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 09:50 Fishriot wrote:
Jesus christ this is getting me pretty angry. So it was pretty much about money? That's the message I'm getting here. Add to that the hypocrisy of this Alex guy constantly repeating that "they never wanted to screw over SotG" after that's exactly what they did is adding more wood to the fire that is this PR fuck up. I am a huge fan of iNcontroL, and this isn't going to change, but EG as a team and as a company can go fuck themselves in my book.


And you go fuck yourself. JP has been working his ass off, for just recently being hired by MLG. He has been doing SOTG and all his other community work for literally nothing. It is perfectly understandable, the moment he gets a sponsorship offer we would likely take it. And if you still don't see how sponsors are needed and a good thing and sponsorship conflicts are natural occurrences, I really don't know.

But he didn't take the offer lol. Alex said it himself, that whole ordeal that "started" this chain of events fell through.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 29 2011 00:56 GMT
#25698
On June 29 2011 09:50 Fishriot wrote:
Jesus christ this is getting me pretty angry. So it was pretty much about money? That's the message I'm getting here. Add to that the hypocrisy of this Alex guy constantly repeating that "they never wanted to screw over SotG" after that's exactly what they did is adding more wood to the fire that is this PR fuck up. I am a huge fan of iNcontroL, and this isn't going to change, but EG as a team and as a company can go fuck themselves in my book.


What did you expect it to be about, candy? How do you expect the pro players to pay their bills. They tried to keep the show running, but it didn't work out.

I sort of upset that they are going to this level to explain this to people. They don't owe us everything.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
June 29 2011 00:57 GMT
#25699
On June 29 2011 09:55 Jayrod wrote:
SOTG made you incontrol lol



your joking right?
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
cyprin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1105 Posts
June 29 2011 00:57 GMT
#25700
On June 29 2011 09:55 Jayrod wrote:
SOTG made you incontrol lol



Yeah, 100% of his "fame" in this community is because of SOTG.
What else has he done, gone 3-3 at a MLG?
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