EPTThe Idea of Microtransactions - Yay or Nay? - Page 2
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
On August 17 2010 00:01 Slipspace wrote: honestly its not the micro transactions that bother me, its the fact that its necessary because we only have one name when bnet 1.0 offered so much more well to me its the fact they are starting to charge for things that were essentially free in SC1. While i still want to see a region locking solution i dont want to see it done like WoW. And i definitely dont like WoW style micro transactions. As if blizzards region locking solution is pay 5 bucks every time you want to change the server, ill be even more pissed and so will alot more of the community... and heres a question i posted on the blizzard forums, with the name change will i actually be able to pick my gaming name? KiF1rE or will blizzard still screw me over and make me use Kifire.... | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
However, with Activision I feel like they're going down the road no one wants with micro transactions. For example, in MW2 (modern warfare 2) Activision charged more than the game's producer (Infinity Ward) wanted to, simply to increase its profits. What did they charge for in MW2? New maps. Imagine, being forced to pay money to get new maps in ladder-play, wouldn't you be pissed? I'd be pissed. | ||
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Deleted User 72834
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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hefty
Denmark555 Posts
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Galleon.frigate
Canada721 Posts
I won't buy it, but people will, and the company that makes my favorite game makes more money. This is fine. I want the company that makes my favorite game to be profitable, so they a) stay in buisness b)people try to make games like them when I'm charged for ladder maps, when I'm charged for nexus wars or the new fancy nexus wars... thats when the line is crossed | ||
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Lysis
United States147 Posts
As far as SC2 goes, it's most likely going to be like WoW. And I don't mind that at all, since I'll probably never use those services anyway. | ||
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Kexx
Germany240 Posts
Remember when you bought a game and you were eligible to all the content through unlocking by just playing the game? Every time people buy into this crap and say it's okay you give the devs a sign that it is okay and you want more. so NAY. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On August 17 2010 01:14 Kexx wrote: micro transactions are the cancer killing the PC industry, it never stops where you think it will, they will always go one step further. Remember when you bought a game and you were eligible to all the content through unlocking by just playing the game? Every time people buy into this crap and say it's okay you give the devs a sign that it is okay and you want more. so NAY. this. wrote a big rage post in the name change thread about this. if you buy a game you should get the whole thing. sell the kids pretty portraits or whatever, i dont give a damn. but when features get stripped just so they can milk the player more and increase the price for the full game that way the one thats responsible for it should be punched in the face for evry single extra $ the customers have to spend. | ||
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
On August 17 2010 00:27 Polis wrote: Yes it does, it shifts development importance for gimmicks that they can sell, and it often makes companies arbitrary remove something just to sell it later, like cross realm play possibly, or changing a nick name. Micro transactions also makes marketing even more important then development, if you promote companies for trying to find new ways to charge you more, then they will grow to do it. How do you propose you stop it? Honestly, they released the best RTS game since 1999, and you're complaining about development shift? The game has been done for ages, I really don't think Blizzard is going to say "HEY LETS STOP MAKING HEART OF THE SWARM/LEGACY OF THE VOID STUFF AND DESIGN GIMMICKS FOR MICRO TRANSACTION PROFIT." Besides, there are separate teams to handle this stuff. Blizzard isn't a 2 man clan. The industries changed. You can't compare SC2 features to SC1. It just doesn't work anymore. You have a persistent account with one name. This system has been implemented in World of Warcraft for years. Being able to change your name all the time for free would just be annoying. I want some consistency. Blizzard wants it. Also, show me anywhere Blizzard has indicated that you have to pay for cross realm play? They promised it as a post launch feature to be released in a content patch. They said to play cross realm you'd have to buy that region's game, but only before they release the patch that allows crossrealm play. They don't throw fees on features they promise for free. They never promised you name changes. They probably saw feedback after launch from many people who wanted to change their name. That's why everyone is getting one for free. Microtransactions aren't going away, no matter how many people here boycott them. If people are willing to pay hundreds of dollars for shitty niche MMO emulated server items that mean nothing and/or items in dumb online text games, untold people will be willing to spend some money here and there on some Blizzard mf'ing Entertainment microtransactions. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On August 17 2010 01:22 Tump wrote: How do you propose you stop it? Honestly, they released the best RTS game since 1999, and you're complaining about development shift? The game has been done for ages, I really don't think Blizzard is going to say "HEY LETS STOP MAKING HEART OF THE SWARM/LEGACY OF THE VOID STUFF AND DESIGN GIMMICKS FOR MICRO TRANSACTION PROFIT." Besides, there are separate teams to handle this stuff. Blizzard isn't a 2 man clan. The industries changed. You can't compare SC2 features to SC1. It just doesn't work anymore. You have a persistent account with one name. This system has been implemented in World of Warcraft for years. Being able to change your name all the time for free would just be annoying. I want some consistency. Also, show me anywhere Blizzard has indicated that you have to pay for cross realm play? They promised it as a post launch feature to be released in a content patch. They said to play cross realm you'd have to buy that region's game, but only before they release the patch that allows crossrealm play. They don't throw fees on features they promise for free. They never promised you name changes. They probably saw feedback after launch from many people who wanted to change their name. That's why everyone is getting one for free. what he said was a general thing and hes totally right.no reason to rage at him. also the blue post about cross region said it will be a "unlock in the account managament" or something like that. what/how do you unlock stuff in your bnet account web page? by paying. if they wanted to make it free they would just add a gateway selection in a patch like we always had in evry single bnet game . this and the current trend of hardcore milking by blizz STRONGLY indicates that they plan to again milk the customer more. ill gladly take bets on this. if im wrong ill eat my words and openly apologize to blizzard. but i really really doubt thats gonna happen. /edit also they never said it will be free. and blizzard promised much in their history. try to watch replays online with others in wc3. oh doesnt work? but it was promised for years! | ||
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Sentient
United States437 Posts
It's all in people's heads. They feel like they don't get access to the full game unless they pay for all the little things. In reality, you buy the full game, and pay for things on top of that. Microtransactions pay for the development of content that otherwise couldn't exist. Free name changes all the time are never good. The fee is an incentive to avoid constant smurfing. | ||
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Latham
9568 Posts
If they'd introduce chat channels, lan support, Xrealm play, online replays etc. as DLC content for 10$+ then I'd be pissed beyond all reason. I consider those thing core that should (have been) be put in the game from the get-go. But like someone above said, if people want to pay to get wings and stars on their thors, who's to stop them and why the hell not? It won't change anything for me. | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
That's it, as long as the line between what should be included in the main package and what is an extra is not crossed, then microtransactions are a sustainable business model. When they cross it, they are toying with loyal customers. | ||
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Feremuntrus
United States64 Posts
http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/45237 Edit: Don't know if this was already linked in the thread. Hopefully not spamming. Double edit: meh bad timing on my part. Mods if you're able to, please delete this post. | ||
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GagnarTheUnruly
United States655 Posts
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holy_war
United States3590 Posts
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
On August 17 2010 01:39 GagnarTheUnruly wrote: Paying for a name change doesn't bother me, because I like it that people have to use the name they pick. I think it will discourage annoying name swapping and make people feel a little more responsible for their online persona. However, I'll be really mad if Blizzard starts charging for content-related items like maps or units. I'm generally tolerant of the cheap single player quasi-expansions that have been coming out for a lot of games, but given Blizzards product strategy with the three chapters of SC2 coming out as expansions, I think it would be really crappy if they went that route. everyone keeps mentioning maps and stuff over and over.... I wonder how blizzard is going to use that map market place that they were talking about before release etc... Whether its just going to be high quality user made maps, and is blizzard going to use that market place to sell DLC made by them? As for cross region, they have posted things, along the lines of " Without having to buy the Full copy of the game again" which leaves it open to interpretation that they will charge for cross region play. They have also not come out and said cross region will be free either. Though by it not being free they contradict themselves with the prelease quote of "your 60$ buys the full multiplayer experience." My point is that they have hinted at micro transactions before. With things like the marketplace before release at blizzcon. How far they are going to take it is what worries me... | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
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