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Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
September 13 2010 00:12 GMT
#101
I got up to 1200 points in bronze before being promoted today. I am a terrible player, but I was playing silver, gold and plat players for a week or so with over 50% win before the system finally decided it was time.

I'm in a new league created today, which makes me wonder, are they actually relegating people who are at the bottom of tables, or is the only way up?
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
September 13 2010 01:13 GMT
#102
you really can't complain after intentionally throwing your placements.

also if u read the thread on promotion, you would know the system is just still building a matchmaking profile on you, you've played too few games. just play some more games, you'll get promoted up most likely to gold or higher if what u say is true.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 13 2010 01:53 GMT
#103
You only played 36 games. you're not gonna get promoted that soon. also, you get promoted based on consistency not so much winrate; you also get promoted all at once, rather than one league at a time. So for all you know, you may jump straight to gold or something once u do get promoted.
Jhax
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland201 Posts
September 13 2010 01:58 GMT
#104
I'm top in my gold division. I'm playing players in both platinum and gold skill and I'm having some really fun and challenging games. Honestly even though I'd really like to be promoted, the only thing that I would be gaining is the badge of that gay silver bird on my profile.
Fast and Free
shirogane
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4 Posts
September 13 2010 03:23 GMT
#105
If promoting was simply too easy to pull off, same would apply for getting demoted. I think it'll make everyone a little too restless at that point =P
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
September 13 2010 03:28 GMT
#106
It definitely takes too long to be promoted after placements.
Omar91
Profile Joined April 2010
Angola620 Posts
September 13 2010 03:30 GMT
#107
In 70 games I got from Gold to Diamond ...so the promotion system is fine .
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
September 13 2010 03:39 GMT
#108
It's fine as it is imo. The exceptions are when it keeps you from being advanced because you need to get some losses first, that stuff is dumb.
Kyron
Profile Joined September 2010
5 Posts
September 13 2010 03:56 GMT
#109
I think the main problem is if you don't have a stable record it's hard to move up. It took me 130 games to move from gold to platinum, even though I was winning about 60% of them, and it was matching me with high platinum players as "even match". My problem was I'd have something like a win streak of 9 games, then a few games later I would lose 6 games in a row, so even though on average, I was winning more my sigma was presumably very high :S
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
September 13 2010 04:54 GMT
#110
I feel like the whole you gotta lose so many games before you get promoted is kind of dumb. Why should a player be punished for being skilled or being misplaced in a division due to random placement loss/disconnect/etc. Also, I don't think demotions happen enough, if at all. If those 2 things were tweaked I think it would be fine.
numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
September 13 2010 05:00 GMT
#111
Took me ~20 games, including placements, to get into diamond. Fast enough for me.
Wartortle
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia504 Posts
September 13 2010 05:06 GMT
#112
im not really sure how the system works. im ranked 20ish in gold. for me to get on top of my ladder i would have to play and win like 30 games. as a casual player ill never get to do this.
Wartortle
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia504 Posts
September 13 2010 05:10 GMT
#113
On September 13 2010 07:32 TrialanError wrote:
Just read the first page didn't skim thru the other 4 so excuse me if someone already mentioned this.
Promotions/Placements, do not matter a bit, in my opinion. I bombed my placements on purpose, I wanted a slow progression up the ladder because I remembered in beta that once you got in diamond it was 'on'. Their was no slowly getting used to the game, and since the last time I played was 2-3 weeks while beta was live (I'm talking about on release day) I decided to bomb my placement to get into the swing of things..
And it did not even matter, I quickly jumped out of bronze into silver within 5-10 games, and then it kept me at silver forever, and I was facing against diamond players regularly and winning, and finally I lost a game to a high diamond player I guess and then it decided to finally move me along straight to diamond.



you went from silver to diamond? i didnt know this was possible. is that because it does promotions in waves? where you rank 1 silver when you got promoted?
Wa11street
Profile Joined August 2010
25 Posts
September 13 2010 05:13 GMT
#114
Ok so great news. 150 games later, playing as random...

It promoted me from rank1 plat to rank 2 Diamond with 780 points. lol.
cXm0d
Profile Joined May 2010
United States93 Posts
September 13 2010 07:20 GMT
#115
I've been recently promoted out of silver to gold, and from gold to plat, both "deciding" games went exactly the same, and it may be able to shed some insight on how this works.
I would win several games in a row against "favored" or "even matched opponents" and the rank of the people I played would go up, as I lost matches, their rank would go down, and I would see "even match" more often, after a few games of "even match" I got a "Favored", I beat him, and moved up. Both times they were favored, rank one in the division above me, and after several "even match" games.
In short, I think the matchmaking system has to get a good "feel" for your level, matching you up with all sorts of people, and you have to lose (rightfully hopefully, I think throwing games will screw the system) so it can actually give you "Even match" opponents. If you keep winning, the game doesn't know where you're at.


Also I think it's a common misconception that if you play higher ranked players than you, that the have intentions on moving you up. All this means is that they have a similar "hidden elo" to yours, which is completely separate from their league system.
Parodoxx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States549 Posts
September 13 2010 07:23 GMT
#116
I think they simply need to add a new division or introduce some sort of pro division that comes by some calculation other then win percent, maybe invite only?
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
September 13 2010 07:26 GMT
#117
It works tbh, blizzard AM system and leagues works great.

The divisions though -_-
PoliteSowter
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom4 Posts
September 13 2010 08:04 GMT
#118
I've been in the top 5 of my bornze division fora bout a week now and rank one for the past 3 days (might have gone down now though as i havent played since friday) any way I have played around the 130 mark and I'm yet to be promoted have more wins than loses. I'm playing silver people the occasional golds, so thats cool, just find it frustrating that I'm yet to be moved on.. ah well, may aswell play more games, I asusme it will come sometime soon.
Keeping it polite since 1988
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
September 13 2010 08:15 GMT
#119
On August 06 2010 12:09 Frozenzen wrote:
They almost happen to fast for me. Start in gold, get promoted to plat after 10 games, diamond after 20 more or so. And my winrate isn't even all that good.

Shoving everyone into Diamond is a bad choice by Blizzard as such a top-heavy distribution will not allow you any distinction between the decent and the really really good players.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Snicklefritz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada19 Posts
September 13 2010 08:27 GMT
#120
I hate how you have to lose matches to get promoted..
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