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On October 07 2010 08:12 FrostedMiniWeet wrote:Show nested quote +I've been stuck at #1 in my bronze division for about a month now. I'm ranked almost in the top 100 in my region in bronze overall, and I keep winning. I just CANNOT be promoted o.0 http://sc2ranks.com/us/727024/ranshakedI'm 124 in my region NA. 1 Protoss ranshaked 1,447 92 55 62.59% 21 hours 2 Terran Craig 1,350 120 106 53.10% 21 hours I am ranshak3d. Notice how far ahead of the #2 guy I am o.0 I don't get it. Are you playing against mostly bronze players? If so, then you are right where you should be. If you frequently lose to low level silver players, then Bronze is where you belong. If you are facing a lot of silver players, with somewhat even results, then you are likely to be promoted soon.
You realize he's 92-55, right? lol. nearly a 2:1 win ratio.
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On one of my acounts I got the "10 games played" achievement and diamond promotion at the same time.
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that achievement doesn't even exist.. u know that right?
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On October 07 2010 08:12 FrostedMiniWeet wrote:Show nested quote +I've been stuck at #1 in my bronze division for about a month now. I'm ranked almost in the top 100 in my region in bronze overall, and I keep winning. I just CANNOT be promoted o.0 http://sc2ranks.com/us/727024/ranshakedI'm 124 in my region NA. 1 Protoss ranshaked 1,447 92 55 62.59% 21 hours 2 Terran Craig 1,350 120 106 53.10% 21 hours I am ranshak3d. Notice how far ahead of the #2 guy I am o.0 I don't get it. Are you playing against mostly bronze players? If so, then you are right where you should be. If you frequently lose to low level silver players, then Bronze is where you belong. If you are facing a lot of silver players, with somewhat even results, then you are likely to be promoted soon.
I'm playing only silver and high ranking gold players. I've been playing them for the past 2 weeks. I win 4/5 games too.
I feel like i'm just stuck
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I don't think you can really generalize if promotions take too long or short. From what I can tell, bronze league promotions happen very rarely if they don't occur in the first 10-20 games. My friend, who was completely new to rts, massed about 100 games in bronze and was doing very poorly until i gave him pointers and showed him the great one they call Day9. Now his macro has improved exponentially and I'd say his skill is in the gold-platinum range but despite winning 20 or so of his last 25 games, he hasn't been promoted. On the other hand, I see many people being promoted into diamond despite not really even having very good fundamentals. Anyhow. If anything I'd say they happen too quick with the exception of bronze league.
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On October 07 2010 08:12 FrostedMiniWeet wrote:
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Are you playing against mostly bronze players? If so, then you are right where you should be. If you frequently lose to low level silver players, then Bronze is where you belong. If you are facing a lot of silver players, with somewhat even results, then you are likely to be promoted soon.
I'm playing only silver and high ranking gold players. I've been playing them for the past 2 weeks. I win 4/5 games too.
The reason you are not getting promoted is most likely because the match making algorithm doesn't have enough confidence in your skill level. This may be because you're not consistent in beating opponents at particular skill levels. You may beat gold players, but lose to silver ones (or something similar), so your games appear to be contradictory in providing consistent results. When this is the case, it just holds off on promotions until it can somewhat accurately predict your wins and losses.
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
On October 07 2010 08:28 ranshaked wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2010 08:12 FrostedMiniWeet wrote:I've been stuck at #1 in my bronze division for about a month now. I'm ranked almost in the top 100 in my region in bronze overall, and I keep winning. I just CANNOT be promoted o.0 http://sc2ranks.com/us/727024/ranshakedI'm 124 in my region NA. 1 Protoss ranshaked 1,447 92 55 62.59% 21 hours 2 Terran Craig 1,350 120 106 53.10% 21 hours I am ranshak3d. Notice how far ahead of the #2 guy I am o.0 I don't get it. Are you playing against mostly bronze players? If so, then you are right where you should be. If you frequently lose to low level silver players, then Bronze is where you belong. If you are facing a lot of silver players, with somewhat even results, then you are likely to be promoted soon. I'm playing only silver and high ranking gold players. I've been playing them for the past 2 weeks. I win 4/5 games too. I feel like i'm just stuck
my sympathies. your record alone shows you deserve to be promoted. i suggest playing or another week or two and if you keep running into silver/gold players and beating them without a promotion, contact blizzard. it might be a glitch with your hidden ELO rating.
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Are you playing against mostly bronze players? If so, then you are right where you should be. If you frequently lose to low level silver players, then Bronze is where you belong. If you are facing a lot of silver players, with somewhat even results, then you are likely to be promoted soon.
how can he played vs bronze league he has 1400 silver points , he should be matched with gold or plat players .
the ladder is flawed , ive said it before but an rl friend of mine got promoted with 51% win ration ( wich is bs ) and 650 points.
so its both flawed and division - league sensitive.
Maybe its luck sensitive as well but it doesnt make sense ;p
The reason you are not getting promoted is most likely because the match making algorithm doesn't have enough confidence in your skill level
this is another lame escusses .
The guy is at 63% win ratio and there guys who are getting promoted with 50% .
If he was loosing to silver ones he wouldnt have had 1400 points
If the matching system cant copy that this player should have been gold ages ago then its yet again flawed.
also if a player with 150+ matches and 63% win ration and first or second overall of all divisions in his league cant get promoted , how is possible that a guy who buys a new sc2 and wins 5 games been promoted to plat like asap.
Seems to me its bliizards way to say go get new copies win 5 games and be platinum thus increasing sales from the ladder whores.
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Patience, young ones. You will be put in your correct league eventually. Just give it some time and don't get butthurt over the fact that the system hasn't promoted you yet. Keep playing the game and learning.
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Lol someone ress´ed this thread and the OP seems to be Gold going to platinum pretty soon....
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Hey guys,
last week, i reach rank 1 plat, since i achieve that, betanet face me diamond players from rank 80 to rank 16, i win like 6/10 games of those. But still no promotion... and what is wierd all those matches are EVEN. How it could be even?
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Isn't it that the system is going to keep successively matching you against higher and higher people, so that it can find the right place for you in the league it wants to promote you into? And hence people seem to get promoted after they lose, since that when the system figures that it knows where you finally are. As long you're winning it won't promote you because it's not sure how far it needs to promote you in order to represent your skill level. non?
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Zurich15325 Posts
Can we just agree that the system makes absolutely no sense but for the vast majority of people it just works and instead of complaining about it just keep playing?
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I think promotions (and demotions aswell) should happen more often.
Here is why:
4v4 RT (i know, system has problems to get confidence) i got promoted to diamond with 44-10, which is a massive delay imho. Not promoting players with a 2-1 or 3-1 winratio is ridiculous, but waiting till a ratio of 4.4 - 1?
Maybe its just the problem that players are not able to "see" and understand how the rating system works, which is a clear result of putting leagues and ranks from 1-100 instead of saying: You are rank 8521 on the server.
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I can definately say that promotions do not take long at all.
I started playing terran as a new race (protoss was my main race) on a buddies account who does not 1v1. I threw my placement matches so I could start off in bronze with the thought that wherever I climbed to I deserved to be and didn't just "get lucky" in placement.
In 28 games (counting placement matches where I lost all 5) I climbed bronze> silver > gold > platinum. Never played more than 8 games before a promotion and was matched vs high Platinum-low Diamond lvl only opponents since silver league.
16-12 record currently; I don't think I'll be promoting to diamond any time soon. I was a low diamond toss with a 50% win/loss.
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One exception vs everyone else that has been placed in a timely fasion
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I swear, when I read this title I thought you were talking about unit promotions. :S
As it is, though, you generally shouldn't complain about things that aren't the real problems. Actual leagues don't matter unless you aren't playing people your skill.
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