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Do you think that getting a promotion to a higher league takes too long, or do you think it should be longer, or do you feel it is fine as is? I'm currently bronze (i bombed my placements because in beta i won all 5 and got placed in diamond and lost 15 in a row). I'm currently sitting in 2nd in bronze. I'm 20-12. 6 of which were placements (i accidentally quit two in a row). Now heres the fun part, if you were to look at my match history, the vast majority of my opponents are silver and gold even with some platinum and diamonds thrown in. I win most of these even beating a plat or two, yet i am not promoted.
The person in 1st place in my league is currently sitting at 20-9 as i type this, and most of his opponents have also been gold players.
Poll: How Do You Feel About Promotions?They're fine. (844) 72% They need to be more often. (200) 17% They need to happen less. (126) 11% 1170 total votes Your vote: How Do You Feel About Promotions? (Vote): They're fine.
(Vote): They need to be more often.
(Vote): They need to happen less.
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Step1. bomb placements
Step2. complain about being in bronze
Step3. make post
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On August 06 2010 12:02 Klamity wrote:
Step1. bomb placements
Step2. complain about being in bronze
Step3. make post
QFT
User was warned for this post
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Well, if you're being matched up with higher-league players already, does it matter much if you aren't promoted?
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On August 06 2010 12:04 btlyger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2010 12:02 Klamity wrote:
Step1. bomb placements
Step2. complain about being in bronze
Step3. make post QFT
The point of me bombing wasn't to be a bronze all star. It was to avoid being a total scrubfest in diamond. In beta promotions happened fairly quickly, but in retail they seem to take longer. I bombed mine so i could beat a couple bronze kids, beat some silver, get tested, get promoted, and find my way up to gold/plat.
Which is a more fun use of my time, beat a couple unfortunate people then play people my level until i'm where i should be, or lose 30 matches in a row to people who completely outskill me until i get demoted?
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It is true that they don't happen enough though - didn't some players like incontrol and cauthonluck get stuck at platinum #1 for like 50 games or something ridiculous like that?
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On August 06 2010 12:02 Klamity wrote:
Step1. bomb placements
Step2. complain about being in bronze
Step3. make post
ROFL.
Also OP, I think you need to lose 7 to be promoted. IdrA and other high level players purposely lost 7 games just to move up.
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On August 06 2010 12:06 PhuxPro wrote:
Well, if you're being matched up with higher-league players already, does it matter much if you aren't promoted? I suppose in the grand scheme of things it really doesn't aside from forum trolls pointing out i'm in bronze. I wanted to simply inquire as to what everyone else's thoughts about the current system were.
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I was placed in Gold but I've since been promoted to Platinum and now to Diamond. I've only played about 35 ladder 1v1 games, if anything that seems like too often to me.
I would think that league changes should only be every 100 games or so at least, unless you're doing really really terrible or you're ripping everyone to shreds.
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Pretty sure Browder or someone specifically said Don't bomb your placements, because they tweaked the numbers and made it longer to be promoted compared to beta...
Your fault pretty much for not staying informed.
That being said I got placed in Silver and was promoted to gold within about 5 wins against gold/plat players.
I don't think it really matters personally, if your playing against high gold with a few plat anyway, why does it matter? Other than for e-peen purposes.
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They almost happen to fast for me. Start in gold, get promoted to plat after 10 games, diamond after 20 more or so. And my winrate isn't even all that good.
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On August 06 2010 12:08 Looc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2010 12:06 PhuxPro wrote:
Well, if you're being matched up with higher-league players already, does it matter much if you aren't promoted? I suppose in the grand scheme of things it really doesn't aside from forum trolls pointing out i'm in bronze. I wanted to simply inquire as to what everyone else's thoughts about the current system were.
I think it's funny that you're getting rightfully punished for trying to "game" the system.
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On August 06 2010 12:06 Looc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2010 12:04 btlyger wrote:On August 06 2010 12:02 Klamity wrote:
Step1. bomb placements
Step2. complain about being in bronze
Step3. make post QFT The point of me bombing wasn't to be a bronze all star. It was to avoid being a total scrubfest in diamond. In beta promotions happened fairly quickly, but in retail they seem to take longer. I bombed mine so i could beat a couple bronze kids, beat some silver, get tested, get promoted, and find my way up to gold/plat. Which is a more fun use of my time, beat a couple unfortunate people then play people my level until i'm where i should be, or lose 30 matches in a row to people who completely outskill me until i get demoted?
Logic evades you. Assume you care about your record - well going 0-5 off the bat isn't going to help. Assume you don't and just hate losing. Well shit, now you're beating up on a bunch of bronze kids. Being bullied sucks, but being the bully is okay amirite?
Try to be a little less arrogant and do your placements normally. Going 5-0 wasn't a given for you, and even if it happened, you'd end up in platinum - not diamond. The system is designed to level you out and it requires a good sample size to happen.
Lastly, you learn more from losing.
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Okay Okay, i know i'm a big bad man and a sore loser for bombing placements, and it's my fault for not staying informed on the game, however my point is still valid as proved by this picture, i've even checked out some of my friends leagues and there are a lot of examples like this.
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On August 06 2010 12:13 Klamity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2010 12:06 Looc wrote:On August 06 2010 12:04 btlyger wrote:On August 06 2010 12:02 Klamity wrote:
Step1. bomb placements
Step2. complain about being in bronze
Step3. make post QFT The point of me bombing wasn't to be a bronze all star. It was to avoid being a total scrubfest in diamond. In beta promotions happened fairly quickly, but in retail they seem to take longer. I bombed mine so i could beat a couple bronze kids, beat some silver, get tested, get promoted, and find my way up to gold/plat. Which is a more fun use of my time, beat a couple unfortunate people then play people my level until i'm where i should be, or lose 30 matches in a row to people who completely outskill me until i get demoted? Logic evades you. Assume you care about your record - well going 0-5 off the bat isn't going to help. Assume you don't and just hate losing. Well shit, now you're beating up on a bunch of bronze kids. Being bullied sucks, but being the bully is okay amirite? Try to be a little less arrogant and do your placements normally. Going 5-0 wasn't a given for you, and even if it happened, you'd end up in platinum - not diamond. The system is designed to level you out and it requires a good sample size to happen. Lastly, you learn more from losing. Well see, heres the fun thing about match making, if you are in a league you shouldn't be, and steamroll some lesser skilled opponents, they match you up against higher skilled opponents, once again, i did not bomb to be "the bully" i've only had about 4 matches against bronze people, the rest have all been higher leagues. I don't see how me not wanting to spend 3 hours losing constantly and not having any fun is arrogant. Maybe the lines blur when your on a horse.
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The promotion system is garbage. If you're playing against higher level people but you're not being promoted, you're going to have to tank some games. From my experience, I was constantly playing against favored people. After losing a few, I was playing against slightly favored and after winning that game, I was promoted.
edit: Cauthon is going to lose a majority of the points he has when he gets promoted. Very unfortunate.
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bombing placements, thats so stupid
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promotions don't matter too-too much atm since if you're rank 1 plat you'll be fighting diamond anyways.
i actually like the way it is atm, after you get promoted to diamond through plat it's like fuck yea, you feel good everytime that promotion screen pops out
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It's my observation that promotions tend to happen the day after a bunch of successful matches are played. I'd say the promotion algorithm on a schedule so it can populate new divisions in chunks when necessary. Seeing as it's cauthonluck, it's entirely likely he crushed all of those 41 people in like 5 minutes each(especially seeing how crap all the non beta players tend to be), only amounting to a few hours of game time. As long as he was promoted within 24 hours of this screencap, I don't really see there being much of a problem.
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