and that's from when, because i don't see anybody in diamond with less than 7 wins.. do u?

Edit: btw, i'm not sure we have the same meaning to the word Snapshot.

isn't Vanick ur partner from 2on2? that guy is not diamond.

Excalibur_Z

United States12235 Posts

September 20 2010 21:17 GMT

#222

On September 21 2010 06:07 kasuya wrote:
and that's from when, because i don't see anybody in diamond with less than 7 wins.. do u?

Edit: btw, i'm not sure we have the same meaning to the word Snapshot.

The 0-7 loss data was from like Aug 21. Vanick's promotion was on like Sep 10.

I didn't say he was Diamond, I said he got promoted from Bronze to Silver after going 5-5. Why do you think there have to be special rules for Diamond? That completely throws off everything.

kasuya

Spain95 Posts

September 20 2010 21:20 GMT

#223

I still don't get what u mean here... snapshot of what... Vanick's promotion to silver?

i was talking everytime about getting promoted to diamond... i never said anything from the lower leagues...

To get in diamond league, u need at least 7 losses, pretty much 8 now... and a minimum of 22 games played.

To get promoted from lower leagues, u don't have any requirement at all.. it's just winning games.

Excalibur_Z

United States12235 Posts

September 20 2010 21:34 GMT

#224

On September 21 2010 06:20 kasuya wrote:
I still don't get what u mean here... snapshot of what... Vanick's promotion to silver?

i was talking everytime about getting promoted to diamond... i never said anything from the lower leagues...

To get in diamond league, u need at least 7 losses, pretty much 8 now... and a minimum of 22 games played.

To get promoted from lower leagues, u don't have any requirement at all.. it's just winning games.

The snapshot is a SC2ranks database snapshot of promotions within a particular time period.

I'm in complete disagreement with you about differing rules for Diamond. It wouldn't make any sense at all from a design perspective and makes even less sense from a player perspective.

kasuya

Spain95 Posts

September 20 2010 21:35 GMT

#225

well, u made an example urself... ur friend Vanick went from bronze to silver with only 10 games played... and there's nobody in diamond league with less than 22 games played...
that should prove my point.. right ?

Excalibur_Z

United States12235 Posts

September 20 2010 21:40 GMT

#226

On September 21 2010 06:35 kasuya wrote:
well, u made an example urself... ur friend Vanick went from bronze to silver with only 10 games played... and there's nobody in diamond league with less than 22 games played...
that should prove my point.. right ?

What? No, did you see the list? That list pertains to diamond promotions.

Also Vanick intentionally bombed his placements (no idea how that's relevant to anything but he insisted I mention that).

kasuya

Spain95 Posts

September 20 2010 21:54 GMT

#227

what list... the bunch of numbers u made up.. with no evidence ?
why don't u give me a link to that list?

I don't care if ur friend bombed his placements.. he still got a promotion after only 10 games. u can't get into diamond like that unless it's the first day of the server/season.

Excalibur_Z

United States12235 Posts

September 20 2010 22:33 GMT

#228

On September 21 2010 06:54 kasuya wrote:
what list... the bunch of numbers u made up.. with no evidence ?
why don't u give me a link to that list?

I don't care if ur friend bombed his placements.. he still got a promotion after only 10 games. u can't get into diamond like that unless it's the first day of the server/season.

I got them from Shadowed. Maybe he'll show up with a link to that database dump, or you can ask about it.

Ronald_McD

Canada807 Posts

September 20 2010 22:35 GMT

#229

You could be stuck. I don't know if you've heard of it

I have a friend who is stuck in bronze
And smashes Diamond players all the time. Really hope Blizz fixes this bug soon

kasuya

Spain95 Posts

September 20 2010 22:38 GMT

#230

tell ur friend to lose 8 games intentionaly, and then keep on winning, pretty sure he will get promoted to diamond asap

Edit: Excalibur, those lists are no longer valid, since there's nobody with less than 7 losses in diamond, and most probably those with 7 losses are weeks old promotions.

Excalibur_Z

United States12235 Posts

September 20 2010 22:46 GMT

#231

Christ...

Really? Seriously? I'm done.

zzaaxxsscd

United States626 Posts

October 06 2010 19:34 GMT

#232

On September 21 2010 00:30 Firebolt145 wrote:
I dc'd from one of my placement games and got placed into Silver. After about ~10 games I got promoted to Gold. After another ~20 games I got promoted to Diamond (skipping Platinum). Had a final record of something like 22 wins 8 losses.

i think promotions may come too quickly also...

i qualified into silver (2-3 or 3-2)
at 9-7 or so, promoted into gold
now at 13-10 promoted into plat

this is in 2v2 random teams...maybe I just drew good partners but the whole thing felt a little silly

ffdestiny

United States773 Posts

October 06 2010 19:36 GMT

#233

> 1,000 pt gold player representing for this thread!

RhodanP

Australia16 Posts

October 06 2010 20:49 GMT

#234

yeah well down her ein Bronze iy's a joke. No one has been promoted on the SEA server for over a month. What's the point of playing and winning if there is no reward?

KevinIX

United States2472 Posts

October 06 2010 21:30 GMT

#235

The promotion system is actually pretty fast. It only took me 10-15 games for me to get promoted from Plat to Diamond.

st3roids

Greece538 Posts

October 06 2010 22:44 GMT

#236

I think it has to do with the division in some promotions getting fast in others take forever .

I dont know why a plat 1500 points + should stay in plat when a diamond can have 700 points or a 1400 gold vs a 600 plat player.

If it was legit plat should always have more points than gold and diamond than plat it makes sence.

also get rid of the ridiculus bonus pool.

I havent seen a game that rewards you for not playing .

Right now it doesnt make any sense for me to play since im stuck for weeks in the same league ( regardless for been consistend either 1 or 2 in my division ) and winning without bonus pool feels like half the win.

bonus pools should have been accumulated the more you play not the opposite.

kammeyer

United States275 Posts

October 06 2010 22:54 GMT

#237

On October 07 2010 04:36 ffdestiny wrote:
> 1,000 pt gold player representing for this thread!

I was promoted from gold at 1207 points. ;p took awhile. now I'm sitting at 1150 in platinum. ;<

ranshaked

United States870 Posts

October 06 2010 23:07 GMT

#238

I've been stuck at #1 in my bronze division for about a month now. I'm ranked almost in the top 100 in my region in bronze overall, and I keep winning. I just CANNOT be promoted o.0
http://sc2ranks.com/us/727024/ranshaked

I'm 124 in my region NA.
1 Protoss ranshaked 1,447 92 55 62.59% 21 hours
2 Terran Craig 1,350 120 106 53.10% 21 hours

I am ranshak3d. Notice how far ahead of the #2 guy I am o.0 I don't get it.

FrostedMiniWeet

United States636 Posts

October 06 2010 23:08 GMT

#239

OP said that he bombed his placement matches so he wouldn't get pwned by diamond players. This demonstrates a clear misunderstanding of how the matchmaking system works. The matchmaking system will match you against players of similar skill despite the league you are in (after several matches of figuring out what your skill is). Initially, when you beat a player, you will most likely face a stronger opponent next match. This will continue until it finds players at your skill level, regardless of what league you or they are in. I was initially placed in platinum league, but only my first game was against a platinum player, the rest were against all diamond players because the matchmaking system quickly discovered that I didn't lose to Platinum players, despite being in platinum. I stayed in platinum for a while before I was promoted, but it didn't really matter that I got promoted to diamond because I was playing the same level of opponents after promotion as before.

If OP had been erroneously placed in diamond, it would have only taken a few games against diamond players before the matchmaking system started pitting him against Plat players instead

FrostedMiniWeet

United States636 Posts

October 06 2010 23:12 GMT

#240

Are you playing against mostly bronze players? If so, then you are right where you should be. If you frequently lose to low level silver players, then Bronze is where you belong. If you are facing a lot of silver players, with somewhat even results, then you are likely to be promoted soon.