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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
August 06 2010 04:42 GMT
#21
Dude, you have played less than 30 games. Seriously, this is the worst whining thread we've had for the some time.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 06 2010 04:44 GMT
#22
They just need to be more consistent. I got promoted at the right time since I was having a 70% win rate vs diamond players. Gretorp has been #1 in my plat division for the entire time with a very high ELO and a massive win loss ratio. They need to rework the formulas.
Seltsam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States343 Posts
August 06 2010 07:44 GMT
#23
Hell no they're not too slow. How long does one of these seasons last? It takes like 2-3 days to get promoted and these seasons are probably gonna last like a month or two. So it would take like a week to get to diamond from bronze (assuming you started and deserve to be in diamond) and then 7 weeks of being in diamond. And it would probably take less because if you tank some games to get promoted and destroy everyone in your others, you'll be promoted in no time.

Two days to get promoted is a very short amount of time considering there are only 5 leagues and that usuallyyou're only going from plat -> diamond or gold -> plat,
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weltraumMonster
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany62 Posts
August 06 2010 07:46 GMT
#24
I can't see that promotions take longer than in the beta. I intentionally lost all my placement matches because i figured it would be fun to play some noobs after launch at first before getting my ass kicked in the higher leagues later...
So i started in Bronce and of course everyone was favored against me since battle.net assumed i am a bloody beginner... But instead i won most of the games and now i am Rank 6 in my platinum division after just 40 games...

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Aikin
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria532 Posts
August 06 2010 07:55 GMT
#25
Well they changed something about the placement matches as well. I got home saturday morning and thought: time to bash some newbies in placement matches.

In the first game I went for a fun strat and played terrible as a whole. My opponent owned me so hard I just thought what??? placement? Looked at his profile after the game, he was diamond with over 500 points wtf.

The rest of my placement games was also against 3 diamond and 1 plat guy. Went 3-2 overall but still got placed in plat. Could it be that you get stronger opponents in placement matches when you already have a good rating in a team league?
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Apollys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States278 Posts
August 06 2010 08:03 GMT
#26
Promotion system is fucked up. It requires 7 LOSSES to be promoted to diamond. The later you get promoted to diamond, the harder it will be to rank up overall.
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Loverman
Profile Joined September 2007
Romania266 Posts
August 06 2010 08:04 GMT
#27
On August 06 2010 12:02 Klamity wrote:
Step1. bomb placements
Step2. complain about being in bronze
Step3. make post

Jarvs
Profile Joined December 2009
Australia639 Posts
August 06 2010 08:07 GMT
#28
The point of placements is so you dont have to bomb games to get matched vs people of your skill. This thread confuses me so badly.

I agree with people saying promotions happen too quickly. Much like the achievement system, I think everything is too easily obtained which cheapens the rewards.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 08:41:01
August 06 2010 08:39 GMT
#29
Over half my Flist is in diamond (including me) and nearly everyone else is Platin, in no way am I or them really good players (for the most part).

If anything this system is way too nice to most people...


Right now, from my experience, i would say everyone that has the 25 win picture (i don't) is in Diamon...
Jackafur
Profile Joined February 2010
United States116 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 08:45:05
August 06 2010 08:44 GMT
#30
On August 06 2010 12:06 PhuxPro wrote:
Well, if you're being matched up with higher-league players already, does it matter much if you aren't promoted?


Yea I dont know for sure but I think the real IdrA was in my plat League. He went like 37-2 before he got bumped to Diamond.
Broodie
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada832 Posts
August 06 2010 09:03 GMT
#31
While I really like the way they are now I think it would liven the experience more if there were more leagues,

So you'd constantly level up and down but that requires a lot for the BNET team to look after and keep maintenance of I think.

Still, constant big shiny popups after games of sc2 would make you feel right at home
SilentLiquid.Broodie - Author of Tango Terminal, Ophilia RE, Cajun Quandary, & The Beneath
red_hq
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada450 Posts
August 06 2010 09:04 GMT
#32
I disc'd two of my placement matches, my internet just crapped. Then I got 6 pooled in the face and placed a pylon 1 hex off. Followed by two games from people who could hardly play the game. I ended up bottom silver, after a going back and forth a bit and brief winning streak I think 6 games or so I was promoted to Gold league #2 bombed my first two matches (6 pool) and just bad play on my part. Dropped to 8th was super busy for two days and I came back to SC2 to see I was #18 WTF. Since then I've been hover above the 15 mark.

TL;DR: This system need some improvement.
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Broodie
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada832 Posts
August 06 2010 09:08 GMT
#33
Quick question, off topic but how can I get a URL to work in my sig? I saw someone with a nice sig from sc2 sigs or something and I cant figure out how to make it appear?
SilentLiquid.Broodie - Author of Tango Terminal, Ophilia RE, Cajun Quandary, & The Beneath
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10665 Posts
August 06 2010 09:13 GMT
#34
On August 06 2010 18:04 red_hq wrote:
I disc'd two of my placement matches, my internet just crapped. Then I got 6 pooled in the face and placed a pylon 1 hex off. Followed by two games from people who could hardly play the game. I ended up bottom silver, after a going back and forth a bit and brief winning streak I think 6 games or so I was promoted to Gold league #2 bombed my first two matches (6 pool) and just bad play on my part. Dropped to 8th was super busy for two days and I came back to SC2 to see I was #18 WTF. Since then I've been hover above the 15 mark.

TL;DR: This system need some improvement.


Uhm...
Looks like it works perfectly fine for you?

You actually lost 3 of your placement games.
Then went on a little winning streak and got promoted.

Where exactly is your problem?
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
August 06 2010 09:16 GMT
#35
I think they are fine. Wouldn't be nice to jump around depending on are you having a good or a bad day
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
August 06 2010 09:26 GMT
#36
On August 06 2010 18:13 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 18:04 red_hq wrote:
I disc'd two of my placement matches, my internet just crapped. Then I got 6 pooled in the face and placed a pylon 1 hex off. Followed by two games from people who could hardly play the game. I ended up bottom silver, after a going back and forth a bit and brief winning streak I think 6 games or so I was promoted to Gold league #2 bombed my first two matches (6 pool) and just bad play on my part. Dropped to 8th was super busy for two days and I came back to SC2 to see I was #18 WTF. Since then I've been hover above the 15 mark.

TL;DR: This system need some improvement.


Uhm...
Looks like it works perfectly fine for you?

You actually lost 3 of your placement games.
Then went on a little winning streak and got promoted.

Where exactly is your problem?

He probably thinks that he got demoted from 8th to 18th without him doing anything lol.
aka myheronoob
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
August 06 2010 09:35 GMT
#37
On August 06 2010 12:08 Superiorwolf wrote:
Ah yes I found the image here:

http://i34.tinypic.com/1xz3bk.jpg haha that is ridiculous


lol CauthonLuck stomping the platinum competition!
aznhockeyboy16
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States558 Posts
August 06 2010 09:40 GMT
#38
they will make more than 1 rank promotion at a time, if you're beating people way above your rank... so quit complaining.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
August 06 2010 09:45 GMT
#39
Weren't there people who got promoted from copper to plat in p1 of beta (same as bronze to diamond now)?
They stomped their placements then went like 15-5 (10 game winning streak).
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
August 06 2010 09:47 GMT
#40
I went 5-0 in my placement matches, and got placed in Platinum. After 19 more games, I was 15-9 and got promoted. So I went 10-9 after placement matches and got promoted to Diamond. Meanwhile notable players have records of 30-0 and such and are still in Platinum. So I'll agree that it's not functioning ideally.

That said, I think it's fine for a couple reasons.
1. The opponents you are matched up with are really no different. When I was winning in Platinum, I was placed against Diamond players, and Platinum players when I was losing. It'll be no different now that I'm in Diamond.
2. I'm guessing they would rather err on the conservative side of promotion, in order to avoid needless promotion/demotion cycles. Also, I'm sure nobody likes being demoted. "Congratulations! You're worse than we initially thought!"
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