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SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
August 01 2010 19:10 GMT
#141
there's like a hundred threads of this guy
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iEchoic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 19:11:02
August 01 2010 19:10 GMT
#142
The people who are saying this isn't a big deal are completely wrong. This proves that there is an exploit out, and this is going to compromise the ladder until fixed. What if they only disconnect the opponent in games they're losing 50% of the time? Bam, they get easy wins and nobody can prove they're cheating. Automated tournaments are now impossible. They need to be moderated.

He didn't waste any money. Probably used trial accounts and/or is playing and will just get a refund when he gets banned.

I actually said this would happen back in the discussions about automated monetized tournaments.
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nemukud
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania42 Posts
August 01 2010 19:11 GMT
#143
I think I know the way he's doing it.

This kind of dischacks were used in a mmo I used to play. Basically the guy was using an item which had a texture that wasn't suppose to be in the game. Therefore the game client didn't had it.
So when your client was trying to render that item it crashed.

Maybe he is doing something similar. Passing some information to the server, the server passes it to your client and your client is not able to compile it, so it crashes or d/c.

If Blizzard didn't implement something that checks if the information that passes through their servers is valid, then it's a big fail for Blizzard as this thing are kind of old.
When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
August 01 2010 19:13 GMT
#144
Wow this guy is disc haccing 2v2s and 3v3s now, probably gonna move to 4v4 next. That's just lame, ruining 7 other people's games at once.
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
August 01 2010 19:14 GMT
#145
its funny people will pay $60 just to piss people off for a day.
sad fucking trash.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
August 01 2010 19:15 GMT
#146
On August 02 2010 04:08 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2010 04:05 LittleeD wrote:
On August 02 2010 03 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              02 2010 03      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:56 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On August 02 2010 03:51 dybydx wrote:
the game just got released, i m pretty sure banning hackers isnt high on the priority list. but fixing bugs could be.


fighting against hacks/exploits is always top priority. no matter what. if stuff like that becomes public blizz will not only drown in complaints and lose customers but also take a huge reputation hit .


Fighting against hacks/exploits is always top priority? Tell that to the Wc3 community and you'd be out-laughed. Maphack has existed since the beginning of time and yet it hasnt been fixed. My trust for blizzard when it comes to fighting hackers has always been awfully low


maphack CAN NOT BE "FIXED" with the system blizzard uses. thats a fact. as long as the data is sent to the client(all the stuff under fog of war etc) you can get that data. it is impossible. yeah it sucks. but thats the way it is.

you can use outside programs like warden or icclauncher to check for the public hacks. but thats it.

That would be true if it wasn't for section 8 of the EULA allowing Blizzard to monitor your RAM during play, which allows them to see what programs you have running in the background.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
August 01 2010 19:23 GMT
#147
On August 02 2010 04:14 FindingPride wrote:
its funny people will pay $60 just to piss people off for a day.
sad fucking trash.

maybe you should read the thread. it's a guest pass therefore he loses NOTHING.
Tresh
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina68 Posts
August 01 2010 19:26 GMT
#148
On August 02 2010 03:54 Jenslyn87 wrote:
I remember there was some talk about Starcraft 2 being built in a specific way that would ensure that hacking would just not be possible under any circumstances. A shame that isn't actually the case


Yeah... that's entirely impossible. Nothing is unhackable, uncrackable, unanythingable.
Huh?
Skeyser
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada219 Posts
August 01 2010 19:26 GMT
#149
On August 02 2010 03:15 shalamadoooo wrote:
that sucks, sounds like blizzard will have to actually prevent and solve the exploit. The irc chat was pretty lame even by troll standards, the guy is enjoying the thought that other people *might* get mad but has no way to even confirm it (the game ends so suddenly). Fail troll.


There's tons of threads filled with people pissed at him on various forums...
Cirn9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1117 Posts
August 01 2010 19:33 GMT
#150
On August 02 2010 03:54 Jenslyn87 wrote:
I remember there was some talk about Starcraft 2 being built in a specific way that would ensure that hacking would just not be possible under any circumstances. A shame that isn't actually the case


To quote Bioshock "They can make it hackproof, that don't mean we ain't gonna hack it"
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greendestiny
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina114 Posts
August 01 2010 19:36 GMT
#151
I just wish there was one guy - one guy! - in Blizzard you could contact with replays, screenshots, logs etc. and have him look at the evidence and ban the m****rf*****g hacker.
How I appear to you is a reflection of you, not me.
kodancer
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States89 Posts
August 01 2010 19:37 GMT
#152
That's just silly to hack and win like that. What a silly person.

But I wonder if there's going to be a LAN support hack in the future.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
August 01 2010 19:38 GMT
#153
On August 02 2010 04:36 greendestiny wrote:
I just wish there was one guy - one guy! - in Blizzard you could contact with replays, screenshots, logs etc. and have him look at the evidence and ban the m****rf*****g hacker.

They're all too busy twittering about their facebook integration.

Blizzard has never been known for their response time on issues.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
lethal111
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada460 Posts
August 01 2010 19:42 GMT
#154
Blizzard should just start banning people on the spot, like COD4 did, if u hackd and u got caught, they would hardware ID ban you, and ban your acc/key cd and you would have to reformat your whole pc and buy a new game.
But I think blizzard should like IP Ban you and Hardware ID ban you if you get caught, then they can't play anymore unless they change IP and hwid, and buy a new cd-key
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 19:46:13
August 01 2010 19:46 GMT
#155
Blizzard should hire assassins to kill anyone who hacks. It would be a fool proof way to get rid of them. If you hack, you die, and you can never hack again.
kekeque
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada68 Posts
August 01 2010 19:46 GMT
#156
wow wtf, that's crazy patch needed now
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 19:49:08
August 01 2010 19:47 GMT
#157
On August 02 2010 04:15 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2010 04:08 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On August 02 2010 04:05 LittleeD wrote:
On August 02 2010 03 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 02 2010 03 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:56 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On August 02 2010 03:51 dybydx wrote:
the game just got released, i m pretty sure banning hackers isnt high on the priority list. but fixing bugs could be.


fighting against hacks/exploits is always top priority. no matter what. if stuff like that becomes public blizz will not only drown in complaints and lose customers but also take a huge reputation hit .


Fighting against hacks/exploits is always top priority? Tell that to the Wc3 community and you'd be out-laughed. Maphack has existed since the beginning of time and yet it hasnt been fixed. My trust for blizzard when it comes to fighting hackers has always been awfully low


maphack CAN NOT BE "FIXED" with the system blizzard uses. thats a fact. as long as the data is sent to the client(all the stuff under fog of war etc) you can get that data. it is impossible. yeah it sucks. but thats the way it is.

you can use outside programs like warden or icclauncher to check for the public hacks. but thats it.

That would be true if it wasn't for section 8 of the EULA allowing Blizzard to monitor your RAM during play, which allows them to see what programs you have running in the background.


How should this help?
I often run a program which analyzes my incoming network traffic packets individually (for university). And I play games while capturing traffic.
Blizzard cannot ban me for this. (Even some firewalls function this way).

Blizzard can scan for program signatures (assuming the hacks arent sophisticated enough to use some kind of polymorphism) in RAM and they could ban some people using well known hacks.
But they cannot prevent maphacking as a whole as long as the needed data is being transmitted to each player (dont know if this is true, someone stated it in this thread). Just use a hack which isnt well known (no signature in Warden or whatever RAM scanning program they use).


On the other hand: If this IRC guy was the real hacker (which I honestly doubt^^) Blizz can do something against it.
He says he used some kind of flooding - but because all the traffic for SC2 is routed over the blizz servers (preventing LAN latency even while being in a LAN) they can prevent this kind of flooding.
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
August 01 2010 19:53 GMT
#158
On August 02 2010 02:45 ZidaneTribal wrote:
thats one way to get solo zen master


He probably read Fayth's thead. LOL
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RoMarX
Profile Joined April 2010
Argentina189 Posts
August 01 2010 19:54 GMT
#159
On August 02 2010 03:46 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
what kind of retard does something like that?

i mean seriously.

he sits in front of his pc for 4 hours doing nothing but wait for the matchmaking to give him a opponent,load screen , press some buttons for 5-20 secs -> repeat

the only thing he achieves is that it gets fixed asap, people flame/laugh at him and he wasted 50$


is this some kind of weird attention whoring of a no life kid or do i miss something?


attention whoring of a no life kid probably. But anyways i dont think it can affect very much to the people who only takes ladder for training or fun. oh!! you got dischacked!! who cares!?! go to the next game, they dont win anything, they cant play tournaments so its useless... just a ladder record that no one serious cares
Hellooo!!!!!!!
shalamadoooo
Profile Joined July 2010
78 Posts
August 01 2010 19:58 GMT
#160
On August 02 2010 04:42 lethal111 wrote:
Blizzard should just start banning people on the spot, like COD4 did, if u hackd and u got caught, they would hardware ID ban you, and ban your acc/key cd and you would have to reformat your whole pc and buy a new game.
But I think blizzard should like IP Ban you and Hardware ID ban you if you get caught, then they can't play anymore unless they change IP and hwid, and buy a new cd-key

you can't ip ban, ips are not to be considered static.
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