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Blizzard Confirms SC2 Overheating Bug - Page 5

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mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
July 30 2010 05:00 GMT
#81
My question is why there isn't any form of mainstream, driver-based GPU throttling in 2010. I.e. GPU hits x temperature, it would force the GPU to back to 2D clocks and voltage, thereby preventing a inevitable hard-lock/crash if temps continued escalating.
With no power comes no responsibility?
Yuma
Profile Joined May 2009
United States51 Posts
July 30 2010 05:29 GMT
#82
OK i added this to the variable files but it doesnt matter were i put it right? just past it in their?
Death is on your left side about an arms distance behind you.-Don Juan
omnigol
Profile Joined April 2008
United States166 Posts
July 30 2010 05:53 GMT
#83
Ridiculous, I would think it'd be standard for them to test processor gpu ram useage, and heat in various modes of the game just to look for memory leaks. Really hilarious that people are frying 300$ video cards cause they didn't put a framerate cap in the menu by default.
Nuxar
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada212 Posts
July 30 2010 05:54 GMT
#84
On July 30 2010 14:29 Yuma wrote:
OK i added this to the variable files but it doesnt matter were i put it right? just past it in their?


Preferably right beneath

foliagequality=x

and ontop of

graphicoptioneffectdetails=x

x being a number ofcourse
Ranix
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States666 Posts
July 30 2010 06:17 GMT
#85
Thanks a bunch for the info, fixed it and messaged my friends about it. Least I could do was post to bump it back to the top so hopefully others can see this
Legends never gg
fryy
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia103 Posts
July 30 2010 06:19 GMT
#86
Wow. I have had my GTX 295 sent back just a week ago because it wasn't working. Im now assuming this bug during the beta has screwed my card.

Im really hoping it can be fixed or replaced for me. I will be pissed if this bug has fried it and all i get is an expensive doorstop.
uiotui
Profile Joined February 2010
United States54 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 06:23:38
July 30 2010 06:21 GMT
#87
I was using fraps to view my current frames per second and before the fix it was doing 60 fps in the main menus and 300!! fps in game...

I added the two lines (modified the values) and now I have it running at 30 fps in the main menus / 120 fps in game... I can't believe the system didn't crash at 300 fps honestly.


Also, before the fix, the game was running around 60 celsius in game... now it's back down to 50 celsius.
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 06:27:17
July 30 2010 06:25 GMT
#88
So frameratecapglue=30 is for the menus and frameratecap=60 is for ingame?

Or what does frameratecapglue=30 do?

Edit: Seems like frameratecapglue=30 is for the menus and frameratecap=60 is for ingame.
@riotsnowbird
ToxNub
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada805 Posts
July 30 2010 06:42 GMT
#89
On July 30 2010 12:31 NidhoGGur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 12:02 Santriell wrote:
On July 30 2010 11:58 Loser777 wrote:
I don't get how this is a "Bug"... GPUs that are adequately cooled won't overheat... under any kind of load. The lack of a frame-cap encourages overheating in systems that aren't cooled properly, but this problem is more hardware related.


GPUs aren't nearly as used as you think. There is absolutely no way any GPU could withstand 100% usage for very long, be it cooled with fan, water or liquid nitrogen...


I think most of you are talking out of your ass.

Most games designed for modern hardware are GPU bound, meaning the GPU is pegged at 100% use at all times during gameplay. I always run a monitoring tool and can confirm this to be the case with most games. Starcraft sits between 60 and 100% use for my GPU.

A menu running at 300fps might be a bit more intensive than 100% use during gaming, but they are both pegging the GPU at 100% usage. Also, it's totally not blizzards fault. My GPU for example has proper cooling, and even heavily overclocked and overvolted, it peaks at 70c in the menus (safe up to 80-90) with 50% fan usage. I have played games (Shattered Horizon for example) that stress my GPU more than this.

The fact is, many GPUs are sadly lacking in cooling systems. At the very least the GPU clock/voltage should tone down at high heat, but most of the time you'll just get kicked back to desktop or reboot instead. A newer CPU for example will always throttle clock speed at high heat. which is a much better solution.

If your GPU is crashing during the menus, you should dust out your computer, get better case fans, or invest in a cooling pad for laptop cooling. If you're crashing from the SC2 menu, you'll eventually run into other games that will crash your computer as well (especially those of you with DX10/11 capable cards, true DX10/11 games are extremely stressful on the GPU)


This. Especially the "talking out your ass" part.
jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
July 30 2010 07:11 GMT
#90
wait so people are arguing whether blizzard is at fault or the GPU companies

but back to the point..

so i open the variables text and just add

"frameratecapglue=30
frameratecap=60"

anywhere in the list or alphabetically then save the text and that's it?

gg done?

thanks for posting!! glad i found this out early
Azile
Profile Joined March 2010
United States339 Posts
July 30 2010 07:17 GMT
#91
So what exactly is the difference between this and vsync?

Other than the 30 cap in menus instead of 60.
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
July 30 2010 07:22 GMT
#92
vsync probably affects your performance, this should not.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
July 30 2010 07:28 GMT
#93
On July 30 2010 16:17 Azile wrote:
So what exactly is the difference between this and vsync?

Other than the 30 cap in menus instead of 60.


Vsync has nothing to do with the 'problem' at hand, and is meant for another purpose entirely.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Floorz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States45 Posts
July 30 2010 07:28 GMT
#94
Would it be better to turn off vsync and use "frameratecapglue=30 frameratecap=60" to improove the performance and stop from overheating?
HOLYCOWBATMAN
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada51 Posts
July 30 2010 07:32 GMT
#95
On July 30 2010 15:42 ToxNub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 12:31 NidhoGGur wrote:
On July 30 2010 12:02 Santriell wrote:
On July 30 2010 11:58 Loser777 wrote:
I don't get how this is a "Bug"... GPUs that are adequately cooled won't overheat... under any kind of load. The lack of a frame-cap encourages overheating in systems that aren't cooled properly, but this problem is more hardware related.


GPUs aren't nearly as used as you think. There is absolutely no way any GPU could withstand 100% usage for very long, be it cooled with fan, water or liquid nitrogen...


I think most of you are talking out of your ass.

Most games designed for modern hardware are GPU bound, meaning the GPU is pegged at 100% use at all times during gameplay. I always run a monitoring tool and can confirm this to be the case with most games. Starcraft sits between 60 and 100% use for my GPU.

A menu running at 300fps might be a bit more intensive than 100% use during gaming, but they are both pegging the GPU at 100% usage. Also, it's totally not blizzards fault. My GPU for example has proper cooling, and even heavily overclocked and overvolted, it peaks at 70c in the menus (safe up to 80-90) with 50% fan usage. I have played games (Shattered Horizon for example) that stress my GPU more than this.

The fact is, many GPUs are sadly lacking in cooling systems. At the very least the GPU clock/voltage should tone down at high heat, but most of the time you'll just get kicked back to desktop or reboot instead. A newer CPU for example will always throttle clock speed at high heat. which is a much better solution.

If your GPU is crashing during the menus, you should dust out your computer, get better case fans, or invest in a cooling pad for laptop cooling. If you're crashing from the SC2 menu, you'll eventually run into other games that will crash your computer as well (especially those of you with DX10/11 capable cards, true DX10/11 games are extremely stressful on the GPU)


This. Especially the "talking out your ass" part.


This.^^

and i cant believe how many retards are talking out of their asses... any benchmark program will run 100% capacity of the hardware it is supposed to benchmark, be it memory, cpu , northbridge , gpu.... all your parts should be able to handle 24h of benchmark to be labeled stable...

im not even going to start quoting all the retarded claims that have been made here.... but just think about what you are saying for a second... hardware has been made to run at a certain clock, if it cant handle it then its faulty ( should have been sold as a lower category but has not been tested enough or if your gpu is the lowest of his series, not sold at all ) or you dont have the proper cooling.

all my hardware is overclocked and i have no problem whatsoever with SC2 or any other game for that matter and i ALWAYS uncap my FPS, i shouldnt say always since i have to cap some games since they have not been designed to run with such high fps ( UT2K4 around 2500+ fps start going crazy on the mouse ).
DURRRRRRRRRRRRR
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
July 30 2010 07:33 GMT
#96
Yeah, if there was a problem with running your hardware at 100% for long periods of time, I doubt my GTS 250 would have much longer to live, considering how much folding it has done :>
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
The_Voidless
Profile Joined March 2010
United States184 Posts
July 30 2010 07:34 GMT
#97
Ouch now this makes me want to stay away from the game for a few days.
If you're not first you're last.
leeznon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States255 Posts
July 30 2010 07:46 GMT
#98
Should this be copied at the bottom, top, or alphabetically?
Cause I pasted mine alphabetically.
Zerg=Skill
futtah
Profile Joined June 2010
Denmark29 Posts
July 30 2010 07:46 GMT
#99
So, if I have Vsync on - I have nothing to worry about?
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
July 30 2010 08:05 GMT
#100
THAT EXPLAINS IT, my 8800GT was fucking up yesterday, and then died. This better not happen again with my new vc.
XK ßubonic
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