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fosh.ger
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany14 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 15:45:18
July 30 2010 10:57 GMT
#121
My 8800 GTS is OK so far. But my power supply unit (500W) end up in smoke.
Maybe due to the overload?!

Edit: Just checked my fps. Is always under or around 60. So Blizzard is not guilty of smoking up my power supply unit. Gee, I hate it if there is no major company to blame for the problems in my live.
"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin)
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
July 30 2010 11:04 GMT
#122
It's shocking that SC2 can actually burn-out GPUs.
Thanks for the heads up.
Scania123
Profile Joined July 2010
13 Posts
July 30 2010 11:16 GMT
#123
I've had severe problems with artifacts and sc2 locking up and forcing me to manually turn off my computer with the power button since the release. (and stage 2 in beta).

I tried adding these lines to variables.txt and was able to play one game but in the next one the red artifacts were back and I had to shut down my computer longpressing the power button. Does this mean that my 8800GT is broken and I have to buy a new one?
georgir
Profile Joined May 2009
Bulgaria253 Posts
July 30 2010 11:23 GMT
#124
NB, Santriell, you are fools if you think it is "normal" for hardware to break when put under max stress by the software. That might be the case with some computers, and especially many laptop models, but it's just bad hardware design, and generalizing it for "every computer" is idiotic.

It's true that Blizzard should fix their game, as doing pointless work is... pointless?...
But if anything broke from that, it's still not their fault. Blame whoever assembled the hardware.
Santiago4ever
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden299 Posts
July 30 2010 11:41 GMT
#125
Several GPUs comes with really poor quality fans. My 9800GT is such a case and during beta it would go up towards 89C at max, I implemented fix and it's now around 80C, still not happy so I'm putting on a good heatsink with extra fans on the bastard.
Ernest Hemingway once wrote: The world is a fine place and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part.
rawr-
Profile Joined May 2007
Denmark28 Posts
July 30 2010 12:09 GMT
#126
doesn't this fix also cap the frames in the game itself not just in the menus ? that wouldn't really be ideal either :o tho I guess one can just raise the cap in the line ?
Crymoreplz
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada11 Posts
July 30 2010 12:10 GMT
#127
You people should probably stop buying bad hardware before you start paying legal fees to try and sue Blizzard. Out of curiosity, who's the board manufacturer of your failed GPUs? I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was mostly all the same ones and they all have terrible cooling on them.
Plissken_2097
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Spain628 Posts
July 30 2010 12:10 GMT
#128
My graphic card exploded while playing the beta. But I think it have more to do with the fact I touched it with the hard drive, which was loose and doing weird noises, so was trying to fix it moving it around.
Formerly Golondrin
mgj
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
191 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 12:23:01
July 30 2010 12:22 GMT
#129
Please mods, close this thread. Im quite positive that it would be possible to set up a scientific test to prove without a doubt that reading this thread makes you dumber.

So much potentially harmful (mis)information inhere. Some people have tried to correct it, but its a hopeless task. Not only do they get lost in the swarm of people, they have no way to prove their legitimacy.

If the thread is not closed, then to everyone who is looking for answers/information:
Consider where you are right now. You are not in a hardware forum. You are not in a programming forum. You are in a forum with 15-year-old kids who "knows about computers 'n' stuff" because they have played video games for years. I love you guys, but my god.... trusting you with anything that is not starcraft is really stupid.
vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
July 30 2010 12:40 GMT
#130
On July 30 2010 21:22 mgj wrote:
Please mods, close this thread. Im quite positive that it would be possible to set up a scientific test to prove without a doubt that reading this thread makes you dumber.

So much potentially harmful (mis)information inhere. Some people have tried to correct it, but its a hopeless task. Not only do they get lost in the swarm of people, they have no way to prove their legitimacy.

If the thread is not closed, then to everyone who is looking for answers/information:
Consider where you are right now. You are not in a hardware forum. You are not in a programming forum. You are in a forum with 15-year-old kids who "knows about computers 'n' stuff" because they have played video games for years. I love you guys, but my god.... trusting you with anything that is not starcraft is really stupid.


This is so true.. So many posts in this thread just make me sigh.. There is no way it is Blizzard/Starcraft's fault that your computer overheats. If your PC has poor cooling then it is up to you to replace it. Blizzard is offering a workaround that might dodge the problem.

If your computer is overheating the core issue is cheap/damaged/poor quality hardware or cooling, there is nothing else to it.
Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
July 30 2010 12:40 GMT
#131
On July 30 2010 21:22 mgj wrote:
Please mods, close this thread. Im quite positive that it would be possible to set up a scientific test to prove without a doubt that reading this thread makes you dumber.

So much potentially harmful (mis)information inhere. Some people have tried to correct it, but its a hopeless task. Not only do they get lost in the swarm of people, they have no way to prove their legitimacy.

If the thread is not closed, then to everyone who is looking for answers/information:
Consider where you are right now. You are not in a hardware forum. You are not in a programming forum. You are in a forum with 15-year-old kids who "knows about computers 'n' stuff" because they have played video games for years. I love you guys, but my god.... trusting you with anything that is not starcraft is really stupid.

So.. how do we know which of them are talking crap and which know what they're talking about? You didn't give us too many clues on that.

I've pretty much always had a crap computer, until about a year ago when I bought myself a beast. I don't want to "cap" anything, I want the thing to run at max EVERYTHING. What's the point of having supposedly good hardware if you're not using it at full capacity? Am I missing something here?

What if the supposed fix meant not running the game on ultra? Doesn't that mean I'm not benefiting from everything I paid for? Would anyone run stuff on low just to be sure?

So what I'm asking is - what e x a c t l y does this "fix" do, who should do it, what do I lose if I do it but I don't need it and what are the chances I need it although my card hasn't fried yet? Oh and if it's so easy and you lose nothing, why didn't they include it in a patch?

All replies to this post have to be approved by mgj beforehand - please include a PM from him saying "comment approved" before replying.
"I believe in Spinoza's god who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
July 30 2010 12:48 GMT
#132
They had the same problem and the same fix for the beta. I'm surprised they didn't put the values in themselves in the variables.txt. They should have a better fix imo.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
SkullOne
Profile Joined April 2010
United States52 Posts
July 30 2010 12:54 GMT
#133
This doesn't affect my Crossfired HD4870's at all. I'm still well within safe temps. My cards idle at about 63C. After playing campaign this morning my primary card was at about 77C and my secondary card was 85C. Both well within safe temp limits by 25+ degrees. That's with my fans at 38% speed. I could always crank it up and cool them down.

Will be nice when Blizzard fixes the issue though regardless.
I dont need no stinking quote
vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
July 30 2010 13:30 GMT
#134
The issue is not Blizzard or Starcraft, if your hardware is overheating then it is your problem and you should fix it. Your hardware should be able to run at 100% with no issues. My video card is sitting at 60 degrees at the moment at full load in SC2. Some people in this thread have been reporting 100 degrees or more - this is a problem and it is not with Starcraft, it is with your cooling/cheap hardware.
theSAiNT
Profile Joined July 2009
United States726 Posts
July 30 2010 13:49 GMT
#135
The article you've linked is extremely misleading. People are crying because they're being led to believe that the lack of a framerate cap is causing their GPUs to overheat. This is wrong. GPUs should have adequate cooling to run at 100% load all the time. Overheating is a driver/hardware issue. Here is the actual source: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/13501356

Certain screens make your hardware work pretty hard

Screens that are light on detail may make your system overheat if cooling is overall insufficient. This is because the game has nothing to do so it is primarily just working on drawing the screen very quickly. A temporary workaround is to go to your Documents\StarCraft II Beta\variables.txt file and add these lines:

frameratecapglue=30

frameratecap=60

You may replace these numbers if you want to.


Note the highlighted text.
Kletus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 14:04:10
July 30 2010 14:00 GMT
#136
I think we should have a poll to see how often people clean their cases. I am running SC2 with a 9800 with everything on High/Ultra and my card never goes above 80C, fans don't go above 55%, and my fps during idle loading screens/ingame never goes over 59.

Edit: Also, apparently my drivers aren't updated as well.
Your resistance only serves to make my carapace harder.
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
July 30 2010 15:00 GMT
#137
On July 30 2010 20:16 Scania123 wrote:
I've had severe problems with artifacts and sc2 locking up and forcing me to manually turn off my computer with the power button since the release. (and stage 2 in beta).

I tried adding these lines to variables.txt and was able to play one game but in the next one the red artifacts were back and I had to shut down my computer longpressing the power button. Does this mean that my 8800GT is broken and I have to buy a new one?


Had the exact same problem with the same card. Replacing it didn't help at all, I think something else is broken.
skipdog172
Profile Joined June 2010
United States331 Posts
July 30 2010 15:47 GMT
#138
On July 30 2010 12:17 Saechiis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 11:49 dybydx wrote:
@NB,

if u set ur CPU to run an infinite loop or do "memory +1", it will not damage the hardware. sure, your CPU will be running at 100% capacity 24/7 but CPU's are designed to withstand that, and CPU's do have a powerdown mechanism to prevent permanent damage.

also if u do "memory +1", you will run out of memory space, at which pt ur suppose to get a blue screen or windows will kick intervene the program logic.

either way, software are not suppose to be able to damage hardware, except through excessive wear and tear usage.


Why are you trying to prove this point when even Blizz itself admits it's their fault? Any hardware can die because of overheating since hardware can't decide for itself that it's getting pretty hot. It's the software's job to prevent these kind of things and it was Blizz's programming that was faulty in the first place.


Ugh, so much misinformation in this thread. Makes me sad.

Graphics cards are designed to run at their full capacity. They are designed to be pushing as hard as possible on the absolute highest setting. Take any very graphically intense game where your FPS never hits 60, and your graphics card is giving all its got. There is nothing in the SC2 software that can make your graphics card do anything beyond "working as hard as it can to render as well as it can". Having your FPS at 200 is no different than having the graphic settings cranked WAYYYY up and being unable to even hit 60 FPS. If your graphics card is overheating because it is working as hard as it is capable of, there is a problem with your graphics card. It cannot be a software issue.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
July 30 2010 15:57 GMT
#139
My computer locks up when the graphics card gets too hot. I had to crank the fan speed to 100% on the card a while back to keep it from overheating in other games. So far I can play SC2 nonstop and my card never goes above 37ºC. You can try sueing Blizzard for a new card, but I am sure the legal fee's outweigh the card's value.
Brood War forever!
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
July 30 2010 16:13 GMT
#140
More importantly, where the hell is variables.txt? My install folder is pretty empty, just some DLL's.
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