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PcChip
United States50 Posts
On July 30 2010 11:00 btlyger wrote: My frame rate is capping out at 60. Note: I have not done this command or any sort of command You probably have VSync enabled in your video driver's configuration | ||
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afirlortwo
United States161 Posts
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PcChip
United States50 Posts
On July 30 2010 11:41 NB wrote: its like: while "1 is not 0", do "memory +1 byte" => no computer can endure that without a software to break the loop Oh really? What about supercomputers that crunch numbers all day long 24/7 for scientists? What about folding@home computers? What about webservers? Are you kidding ?? | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On July 30 2010 12:18 AJMcSpiffy wrote: It's the same reason your computer locks up when a program tries to use 100% of the available memory. Graphics cards CAN, for example, run a screen at 500 fps if it was working at 100% capacity. However running at this 100% for any period of time causes more heat than the card can handle. This isn't a "malfunction" or problem with the card. Games are supposed to put caps on screens to tell the graphics card to stop trying to process at a safe percentage of use. I'm sorry but this is retarded. Games are not responsible for keeping hardware from overheating. The hardware/firmware/drivers are. Games can't be held responsible for knowing about every different bit of hardware out there. The hardware is aware of itself. It is responsible for throttling down, if its built in cooling is insufficient. For many cards, it is sufficient. There are plenty of cards that can handle 100 percent use for prolonged periods (see furmark). I just don't even know where to begin with all the posts like this in this thread. Sure it's not ideal for the menu to be using more resources than is necessary for a smooth framerate, but that's exactly what Starcraft 1 did for a whole freaking decade to the CPU, before patch 1.16. It maxed out the CPU rendering as many frames as it possibly could. They fixed it, and I bet they'll do the same with the SC2 menu. Either way, blaming the program on any hardware failures is dumb. The fault lies with the card's heatsink, drivers, firmware or some combo thereof. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11557 Posts
it's working as intended. If your heatsink/fan can't take some 100% load, ramp up your fans and check for dust, and then bitch at your vendor. It's not Blizzard's problem. | ||
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mgj
191 Posts
On July 30 2010 12:17 Saechiis wrote: Why are you trying to prove this point when even Blizz itself admits it's their fault? Any hardware can die because of overheating since hardware can't decide for itself that it's getting pretty hot. It's the software's job to prevent these kind of things and it was Blizz's programming that was faulty in the first place. Blizzard never admitted to such a thing. Quote from the blue post : Screens that are light on detail may make your system overheat if cooling is overall insufficient. | ||
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Srules
United States31 Posts
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SilentCrono
United States1420 Posts
i have the same deal on my pc but am not using vsync. well, i'm pretty sure i'm not. i have to check. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On July 30 2010 10:58 jibber wrote: Good to know. Personally I would have appreciated a heads-up before my video card fried, but maybe this can save someone else from the hassle I've been dealing with since yesterday afternoon. Me too. Except i figured out that the game was working too hard in beta and edited the cap in myself, what i didn't expect was the beta editor to fry it. >.< happened the day before release and now i have 3 weeks until i get my laptop back. at least it was under warranty but man no SC2 hurts. | ||
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phamou
Canada193 Posts
thanks in advance | ||
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TadH
Canada1846 Posts
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Wargizmo
Australia1237 Posts
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BabelFish
United States14 Posts
On July 30 2010 11:41 NB wrote: if you let your computer run an infinite loops without a break, it will broke eventually and that apply for every hardware. its like: while "1 is not 0", do "memory +1 byte" => no computer can endure that without a software to break the loop Umm... It's standard testing practice to insure that electronics hardware can sustain maximum load for a very very long time. Heck, before the invention of power-scaling CPUs, the chips ran at full power all the time. Your operating system has an Idle Process thread that runs when nothing else is available. In modern chips this thread can shut down parts of the processor, but older chips just chewed on that thread over and over again till something else more important came up. On July 30 2010 12:42 NicolBolas wrote: Please. I actually do graphics programming. It's not uncommon for test programs, used to demonstrate an effect, to hit hundreds of FPS. And they don't cause problems. GPU's generate heat based on how much work they're doing. Rendering 10 frames is virtually no different than rendering 1 frame with 10x the "stuff" in it. The only difference is that you're clearing the framebuffer 10 times more often. And even framebuffer clears are an optimized operation on any card made in the last 5 years. This man understands his graphics cards. Even under full load, a properly cooled and cleaned case will keep any modern enthusiast card well within operating temperatures. Modern chips are designed to be able to run surprisingly hot. | ||
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uiotui
United States54 Posts
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Phootaba
Sweden28 Posts
Some of this can bre blamed on the manufaturers. Adding those lines are simple enough though. Unless you're using a gtx-480/470 above 80C is scary stuff  | ||
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jibber
30 Posts
As for the hardware vs blizzard debate it's a combination of both, but blizzard is stepping up and taking responsibility. You probably won't have a failure if you have a proper setup but it's blizzards programming that left the fps uncapped. I respect them for stepping up and admitting it though. I wish other companies would follow suit IE Apple, Banks, etc.. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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Khalleb
Canada1909 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On July 30 2010 13:48 KhAlleB wrote: when i try to do this, each time i open sc2 those lines desapear are you sure it didn't just put it in alphabetical order? or maybe forgot to save? open up the txt file again and check everything thoroughly. | ||
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Kratisto
United States199 Posts
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