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Tryras
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada10 Posts
August 04 2010 16:50 GMT
#361
I just mean there are more pressing issues. We're only required to submit the win replays, right? What if someone left within 5 min everytime that they weren't gonna have a quick win? Let's say a cheese gets scouted and they d/c right away. Isn't that a lot worse than cheesing in the first place? Or how about people that d/c within 1sec of the game starting a few times so they can stay in bronze/silver leagues and have an easier time cheesing people for wins? What goes and what doesn't? Cheesing shouldn't disqualify when so many other things are open for people to do.
Rawr~
Oddysay
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada597 Posts
August 04 2010 16:53 GMT
#362
im going to get it with my current training of 40 game each day !

playing zerg and protoss so that good . just need pratice some more with terran .

will help me learn other race bo time , counter and when they are weak vs some bo .
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 16:58:50
August 04 2010 16:53 GMT
#363
On July 29 2010 10:50 Fayth wrote:
Mod edit
Fayth is legit, thread is legit, no need to ask for bans - he can afford this ;p
- Jinro

/End mod edit


I'll ship 2000$ to the first player who gets the Solo Zen Master achievement on US or Europe server within 6 months, no koreans allowed obv
1000 terran wins
1000 protoss wins
1000 zerg wins
1000 random wins (it appears the race you get is counted as a win for the race so you're all better off starting with random)

(that's $0.66 per win)

Good luck! =)

Probably going to take a long while so bump this thread/message me when it's done

Edit: added time frame so it would put pressure on those who wanna participate, also account sharing is prohibited obv


So by january 28th at 11:59 EST if nobody has made it, well I keep da monies 8)


NEW RULE: Must provide replay pack, cheesing EVERY game is not allowed, so upon reviewing replays if someone was trying to free win every single game then he's DQ'ed



A good player can easily do this in 4-5 months playing random. Unfortunately I don't have the time to do such a feat. Good luck to anyone who participates. Right now I think David Kim is in the lead.
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
August 04 2010 17:01 GMT
#364
On August 05 2010 01:53 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 10:50 Fayth wrote:
Mod edit
Fayth is legit, thread is legit, no need to ask for bans - he can afford this ;p
- Jinro

/End mod edit


I'll ship 2000$ to the first player who gets the Solo Zen Master achievement on US or Europe server within 6 months, no koreans allowed obv
1000 terran wins
1000 protoss wins
1000 zerg wins
1000 random wins (it appears the race you get is counted as a win for the race so you're all better off starting with random)

(that's $0.66 per win)

Good luck! =)

Probably going to take a long while so bump this thread/message me when it's done

Edit: added time frame so it would put pressure on those who wanna participate, also account sharing is prohibited obv


So by january 28th at 11:59 EST if nobody has made it, well I keep da monies 8)


NEW RULE: Must provide replay pack, cheesing EVERY game is not allowed, so upon reviewing replays if someone was trying to free win every single game then he's DQ'ed



A good player can easily do this in 4-5 months playing random.



No player can easily do this, since match maker will out you around 50%, lets say 60% for a good player. Minnium you need 3000 wins, thats 5000 games. Say an average of just 10 minutes a game (thats really fast). 50,000 minutes, 833 hours or ~35 days. 6 months times 30 days = 180 days 35/180 = .1944, 19.44% so 1/5 of your time you have to be playing 1v1 starcraft ladder games doesnt sound to easy to me. That is with 10 minute games, so it is likely closer to 1/4 of your time. If anyone pulls this off, mad props to them
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306479
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 04 2010 17:06 GMT
#365
Everyone, you should realize that being better at the game won't get you those wins faster. You will eventually hit around 50% win ratio thanks to AMM.
If you want to earn those wins fast without cheesing or cheating, you really should let go of games when you are significantly behind. If you win a game with all odds against you then it most likely will take forever and even increase your MMR. Which leads to facing better opponents, which will eventually net you more losses anyways.

Just play games, and concede once you fall behind significantly. Trying too hard will not help you at all. Unless Fayth edits the OP so that you have to play every single game to the very end :p
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
August 04 2010 17:07 GMT
#366
1/4th of your time is 6 hours a day. thats reasonable i think
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Tryras
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada10 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 17:21:53
August 04 2010 17:12 GMT
#367
On August 05 2010 02:06 spinesheath wrote:
Everyone, you should realize that being better at the game won't get you those wins faster. You will eventually hit around 50% win ratio thanks to AMM.
If you want to earn those wins fast without cheesing or cheating, you really should let go of games when you are significantly behind. If you win a game with all odds against you then it most likely will take forever and even increase your MMR. Which leads to facing better opponents, which will eventually net you more losses anyways.

Just play games, and concede once you fall behind significantly. Trying too hard will not help you at all. Unless Fayth edits the OP so that you have to play every single game to the very end :p


Concede once you fall behind significantly is right... but what's to stop people from disconnecting and losing a handful of games within a few seconds just to get their MMR lower? I mean, the opposing player isn't gonna be upset 'cause they just got a free win and the cheaters now get to play weaker players.

Edit: P.S. has anyone confirmed how much money Fayth is paying out? 2000$ or 20 000$? Fayth did say this:
On July 29 2010 12:03 Fayth wrote:
what, you wouldn't do it for 20 000$? 4000 games in 6 months for 20 000$, that's like a full time job, people get paid less than that to work at mcdonald, you're playing SC2 here


2nd Edit: Sorry, I missed the context of Fayth's post... 2000$ it is LOL XD
Rawr~
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 04 2010 17:17 GMT
#368
On August 05 2010 02:12 Tryras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 02:06 spinesheath wrote:
Everyone, you should realize that being better at the game won't get you those wins faster. You will eventually hit around 50% win ratio thanks to AMM.
If you want to earn those wins fast without cheesing or cheating, you really should let go of games when you are significantly behind. If you win a game with all odds against you then it most likely will take forever and even increase your MMR. Which leads to facing better opponents, which will eventually net you more losses anyways.

Just play games, and concede once you fall behind significantly. Trying too hard will not help you at all. Unless Fayth edits the OP so that you have to play every single game to the very end :p


Concede once you fall behind significantly is right... but what's to stop people from disconnecting and losing a handful of games within a few seconds just to get their MMR lower? I mean, the opposing player isn't gonna be upset 'cause they just got a free win and the cheaters now get to play weaker players.

Well I guess Fayth definitely should ask for ALL replays, including losses. That way he can check a few of the shorter losses and verify that those were legit games. It should be able to verify the total game count, and (at least by then) there probably are some good replay analyzing tools to further help check those games.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 04 2010 17:59 GMT
#369
On August 05 2010 02:01 jamesr12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 01:53 StarStruck wrote:
On July 29 2010 10:50 Fayth wrote:
Mod edit
Fayth is legit, thread is legit, no need to ask for bans - he can afford this ;p
- Jinro

/End mod edit


I'll ship 2000$ to the first player who gets the Solo Zen Master achievement on US or Europe server within 6 months, no koreans allowed obv
1000 terran wins
1000 protoss wins
1000 zerg wins
1000 random wins (it appears the race you get is counted as a win for the race so you're all better off starting with random)

(that's $0.66 per win)

Good luck! =)

Probably going to take a long while so bump this thread/message me when it's done

Edit: added time frame so it would put pressure on those who wanna participate, also account sharing is prohibited obv


So by january 28th at 11:59 EST if nobody has made it, well I keep da monies 8)


NEW RULE: Must provide replay pack, cheesing EVERY game is not allowed, so upon reviewing replays if someone was trying to free win every single game then he's DQ'ed



A good player can easily do this in 4-5 months playing random.



No player can easily do this, since match maker will out you around 50%, lets say 60% for a good player. Minnium you need 3000 wins, thats 5000 games. Say an average of just 10 minutes a game (thats really fast). 50,000 minutes, 833 hours or ~35 days. 6 months times 30 days = 180 days 35/180 = .1944, 19.44% so 1/5 of your time you have to be playing 1v1 starcraft ladder games doesnt sound to easy to me. That is with 10 minute games, so it is likely closer to 1/4 of your time. If anyone pulls this off, mad props to them


That is why I said mentioned 'time.' I think you would pleasantly surprised with how many gamers play this game 4-8 hours a day. There are a lot of guys who can mass game with no problem at all given a certain time frame. There are many examples out there including TSL, ICCUP, etc. So no it isn't far fetched at all. You would just have to skip most tournaments and use all your free-time playing ladder.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 04 2010 18:02 GMT
#370
fayth, can you make another rules regarding the replays? some of my early wins has been deleted automatically . can we just prove to you by showing or match history that our most recent 10-20 wins has no cheese or smthing?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Tryras
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada10 Posts
August 04 2010 18:20 GMT
#371
I'm sure most of us are more interested in seeing who gets Solo Zen Master first rather than how "well" they did it o.o
Rawr~
crfty
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States174 Posts
August 04 2010 18:22 GMT
#372
On August 05 2010 03:02 NB wrote:
fayth, can you make another rules regarding the replays? some of my early wins has been deleted automatically . can we just prove to you by showing or match history that our most recent 10-20 wins has no cheese or smthing?


I don't think that is a legitimate way of proving how you played. You could just play legit for those last 20 games and not do so for the other thousand before.
tetracycloide
Profile Joined July 2010
295 Posts
August 14 2010 17:10 GMT
#373
Always wondered about the 'rules' for this give away. What's the difference between 'always' cheesing and cheesing 999 times and playing legit once? Who even decides what 'cheese' means? I mean it's Fayth cash so if Fayth wants to be ambiguous about the rules I guess that's Fayth's prerogative but I'd hate to have ground out a minimum of 3000 wins only be the disqualified because I 'cheesed' an arbitrary number of times especially without even knowing what the arbitrary number is before hand or what is and is not considered cheese in context.
My vanity is justified
Earll
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway847 Posts
August 14 2010 17:11 GMT
#374
On August 05 2010 03:22 RobPG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 03:02 NB wrote:
fayth, can you make another rules regarding the replays? some of my early wins has been deleted automatically . can we just prove to you by showing or match history that our most recent 10-20 wins has no cheese or smthing?


I don't think that is a legitimate way of proving how you played. You could just play legit for those last 20 games and not do so for the other thousand before.



This obviously, but assuming you are actually going for it RobPG then i assume you are not even 20% there, so i doubt it will be a huge problem if you talk to fayth and show up with say 2500 replays instead of 3k
Wat
hadoken5
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada519 Posts
August 14 2010 17:44 GMT
#375
I don't know why he would do this, but I'm pretty sure its legit cuz Jinro said so. I'm not going to bother competing because school is coming up and I can't play all day. I know there is some people with 500 wins already, but that's only with one race. So it may be in about 1 year.
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
August 14 2010 20:49 GMT
#376
On August 15 2010 02:44 hadoken5 wrote:
I don't know why he would do this, but I'm pretty sure its legit cuz Jinro said so. I'm not going to bother competing because school is coming up and I can't play all day. I know there is some people with 500 wins already, but that's only with one race. So it may be in about 1 year.


He can (hes rich) and loves SC so why not.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306479
Teken
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom35 Posts
August 14 2010 21:22 GMT
#377
heh and i got only like 500 games played;( with ratio 60¬%) and i play alot
do whatever its takes to be the best
hyped
Profile Joined April 2010
United States135 Posts
August 15 2010 00:00 GMT
#378
Fayth, is it possible for you to friends list top contenders and give progress updates in the OP?
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 00:16:48
August 15 2010 00:15 GMT
#379
http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/us/diamond/1/random/points/0#wins:0

unphazed is at 340 wins

That is the highest i could find for a random player. That is just about on pace if he keeps it up he has a chance.

Sadly site doesnt like you rank by wins, but i looked through the first 10 pages of random players. There may be someone higher but I doubt it


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306479
Subtlety
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada113 Posts
August 15 2010 00:20 GMT
#380
A good player can easily do this in 4-5 months playing random. Unfortunately I don't have the time to do such a feat. Good luck to anyone who participates. Right now I think David Kim is in the lead.



Ironically enough if David Kim (Dayvie) gets the icon first, I don't think that legally he would be able to accept the reward since he works for Blizzard?

I know there is something somewhere about conflicts of interest and why we don't see him in tournaments.

There are more details in the thread below
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137660
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