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RaiKhan
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands69 Posts
July 28 2010 17:20 GMT
#41
I would agree with a couple of previous fellas and say: play them both and see what feels better.

I started playing protoss in phase 1, because I'm a sucker for force fields but in phase 2 I played random to get a better sense of the game. Zerg was my least favorite race coming into the beta, but after forcing myself to play them, I noticed they really feel natural to me and suit my play style. Now I'm again torn
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
July 28 2010 17:24 GMT
#42
I wouldn't recommend tanking placement matches if you actually want to become good as the race you choose.
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Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 17:27:22
July 28 2010 17:26 GMT
#43
Pick the one you like the most.

A lot of people say zerg is hard because of larvae but protoss also need to keep an eye on the cooldown of the waprgates or they'll be a lot of units behind, and this throughou the whole game, unlike terran who can just queue them, or zerg who after a while can have extra larvae.

Play with both. A day only with zerg, a day only with protoss, then again, until you decide. You won't find reasons here. If you pick one it's because you like it more, and no amout of reasons should change that imo.
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
July 28 2010 17:39 GMT
#44
nobody can tell you what race to pick
only you can tell what race you like most

what advice i can give you :
continue to play both protoss and zerg until you are certain.
and this is comming from a terran player.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
July 28 2010 17:43 GMT
#45
^ agreed. No point forcing a decision if u are uncertain still. I played Zerg through entire beta myself but I honestly became alittle sick of it so I just switched to toss and loving it : )
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
July 28 2010 17:44 GMT
#46
I play toss because I like toss. 0_o
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willeesmalls
Profile Joined March 2010
United States477 Posts
July 28 2010 17:48 GMT
#47
Play zerg at your skill level. It doens't require the APM to harass and whatnot that other races do.

Your builds are very timing sensitive because very specific things can wreck you (hellions running up your ramp, void rays, 4 gate, etc.) This will help you develop a sense of when to scout and what to scout for. Unit composition and control mechanics during fights are also more sensitive than the other races. You'll develop game sense to know when you can double expand/pump drones.

If you play protoss at this skill level, you're just going to 4 gate and beat shitty zergs and lose to everything else.
iQQuPewPew
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada21 Posts
July 28 2010 17:56 GMT
#48
I agree with many of you. Personally buddy I think you should use P or T if your a newer player. I agree with most people when they say the most demanding race APM-wise is Zerg, next is Protoss, then Terran. Therefore if your not very apm savvy (less than 80) you would be more efficient with P or T. I say T because IMO terran is still OP. I personally think Seige Tech needs a nerf, or needs to be higher tier tech. Zerg just requires too much macro, and doesn't pay off if your don't strategically outsmart your opponent. You have to be extremely careful before taking any engagement because other race units are so much stronger (I.E. Tanks when they have reached critical mass). For these reasons I believe the only way to outplay top diamond players with Zerg is to have a higher mineral saturation, an extra base, and to do the right tech. I feel protoss and terran are a bit more easy as you can max out on two bases easily and when the units are together they are extremely powerful.
Hope this helps,
glgg
DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
July 28 2010 18:07 GMT
#49
On July 29 2010 02:39 MindRush wrote:
nobody can tell you what race to pick
only you can tell what race you like most

what advice i can give you :
continue to play both protoss and zerg until you are certain.
and this is comming from a terran player.

Agree. Just mass costume games. After couple of days you could have chosen a main race! :D
GL with the race picking.
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ZergTurd
Profile Joined June 2010
83 Posts
July 28 2010 18:22 GMT
#50
On July 28 2010 13:40 Arovien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 11:05 Chunkybuddha wrote:
low apm= toss

high apm=zerg

lowest apm=terran

Fixed

I would say, winning as Zerg is the most rewarding. You gotta do more stuff to get the same result.


Why are you saying Terran = low apm? it's the most difficult race to manage imo because you have so many buildings/workers and different types of units to manage. Zerg and protoss have a lot of things going for them in those aspects like overlords/pylons/upgrades/tech switches being really easy to manage and produce easily.
EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
July 28 2010 18:31 GMT
#51
Pick whichever you feel more comfortable with, play with both for at least 10 games each before deciding.

Selfish suggestion: please pick protoss because I'm sick of playing ZvZ mirror matches (literally 4 of 7 of my games have been mirror matches)
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FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 18:47:03
July 28 2010 18:45 GMT
#52
Protoss has force fields, do you really wanna take the easy route?






I keeeed. No seriously I'm kidding.

On a serious note there are alot of good tips in this thread like play each and get a feel for what you like the most. Which imho is the best thing to do.
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EssayReader
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)127 Posts
July 28 2010 18:58 GMT
#53
Zerg. Hard to master but winning is winning.
njAl
Profile Joined July 2010
Norway156 Posts
July 28 2010 19:04 GMT
#54
Zerg is the best race, but the hardest to get good at, also, protoss is the most played race and alot of people have a certain amount of prejudice concering protoss, as alot of them do all in cheesy builds.

Just 10 mins ago i played a protoss who went for 2gate, into voidrays, into dts, i fended the attacks off and won, instead of gging he build assimilators all over the map making a 20 min game a 45 min one.

Now, all this said, unless you count on spending ALOT of time getting good at zerg, ill have to reccomend protoss to someone who is relatively new at the game.
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arthur
Profile Joined April 2009
United Kingdom488 Posts
July 28 2010 19:12 GMT
#55
On July 28 2010 13:40 Arovien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 11:05 Chunkybuddha wrote:
low apm= toss

high apm=zerg

lowest apm=terran

Fixed

I would say, winning as Zerg is the most rewarding. You gotta do more stuff to get the same result.



How is that fixed?

Terran is nonstop micro/macro

Zerg is even more macro but less micro

And Protoss is the least out of both micro/macro.
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tfmdjeff
Profile Joined June 2010
United States170 Posts
July 28 2010 19:19 GMT
#56
A zerg player is considerably more skilled than an equally ranked protoss player. I'd say pick up Zerg. It's the hardest to learn, but it's the most rewarding, and I think that once you became really proficient as zerg, you could become very proficient as the other races.

So, if you're up for a challenge, pick zerg. If you just want to get highly ranked by doing highly effective cheese and allin strategies, don't think about any race but protoss.
SeaSmoke
Profile Joined July 2010
United States326 Posts
July 28 2010 19:32 GMT
#57
I'm wondering why Terran has been eliminated for OP?

Although as a mid level Zerg player I have to say it can get amazingly frustrating how hard you have to work to beat a meching Terran.
Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 03:55:07
August 03 2010 03:40 GMT
#58
On July 29 2010 04:12 arthur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 13:40 Arovien wrote:
On July 28 2010 11:05 Chunkybuddha wrote:
low apm= toss

high apm=zerg

lowest apm=terran

Fixed

I would say, winning as Zerg is the most rewarding. You gotta do more stuff to get the same result.



How is that fixed?

Terran is nonstop micro/macro

Zerg is even more macro but less micro

And Protoss is the least out of both micro/macro.


Honestly, anyone who says Zerg needs the least micro, hasnt learned how much precise micro is required in rediculously short amounts of time to defeat a Mech army. Your units die easier than the others, your positioning matters more, your units are fast and hard to control, and you need to get inside extreme ranges under fire to do a specific job with each unit type.

Terran are in the middle in both areas. They can 1-base better than Zerg but not as good as Toss, and with the slow speed/huge range of their units, they can do big damage while slacking on micro (aside from hellions). On that subject, controlling banelings takes just as much if not more control than Hellions to chase down the enemy while avoiding fire.

Most people think you can just attack move and right click where u want the banelings, but thats not true. You have to surround and block paths with lings, while chasing down the enemy with banelings and being EXTREMELY careful not to let them get to the spot you right click (becuase if you do they attack nearest unit and it's gg), you have to attack/move/attack with Roaches to get close enough for them all to do damage, make sure to get a quick spread on Hydras and keep it, while being extremely careful with your infestors. This isnt including your T3 units and/or Mutas depending on enemy army composition.

And you need to utilize ALL of those units at once, just to beat the typical Terran compositions of just 3 different unit types.
llortyag
Profile Joined August 2010
United States64 Posts
August 03 2010 04:06 GMT
#59
Pick terran, even tho TvP is ridiculously toss favored TvZ and obviously TvT is pretty well balanced.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 03 2010 04:13 GMT
#60
These threads are dumb because more than 75% of the people replying make retarded "imba/favored" comments that are almost completely groundless.

Honestly, just play the two races more until you find the one you really like.
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