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On July 22 2010 05:27 Endymion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2010 05:12 Mindcrime wrote:
I chose zerg because the race was actually fun in brood war.
:| You have to admit, spreading creep all over the map is pretty fun, even if it isn't hold position lurkers or muta micro :S. Anyways, how can you seriously play a 40min no rush game? I have never played a 40min+ RTS 1v1 unless it was like rise of nations, and even that just grinds part 40min. Unless you mean like a 40min FFA, but still, thats 40 minutes of straight macro, wouldn't you be maxed a lot sooner than that?
you always played 2v2 or 3v3, plus in AoE you could only make 99 workers, so you had loads of supply left for an army.
But just before battle you shold have had 100k of all resources except wood, where you had like 20k, and that drained fast, all AoE players know what i mean
I was also a coward and didn't want to be attacked early, it was "OP"
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Capoch (previously L_Clan_Capoch) who according to overall rankings was 15th in points was one of the best AoE2 players with about 2.2k rating, and he is protoss. I used to play AoE2 myself, and there's nothing better for macro. In a long game it's really crazy macro, battles all over the map. Instead of 2 or 3 nexus in average you have more than 5-6, isntead of 6 barracks you can have as much as 10 then 5 or 6 stables for horses, then some more for archers, always pumping units. In team games it gets even crazier. Then while you have your main army protecting your town you distract his main army and attention with attack with cavalary from the sides aimed at their workers.
That's why i tend to prefer big maps, with open spaces, where you can attack in multiple fronts at the same time, use buildings to wall of. I usually play either protoss or zerg.
Just a side note: You guys that play AoE3, don't know what you missed with AoE2. Except the graphics it's better in all aspects. I wish they'd done from AoE2 --> AoE3 what they did from SC --> SC2.
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T player since day1 SC1, you can keep your nasty zergs.
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I've played AoE2, Those are my cherised childhood memories <3
But I was about 8 years old and didn't care about multiplayer
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I am also an aoe3 player , and its nice to see many players switching to sc2, the actual good supremacy players can also get very easily on top of the ladders, i think NR 40 players got a bit more difficulty with the combining of micro/macro. Zerg is ofcourse the logical race if you played aoe3 before.
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I played random trough out the beta until after the last week I only played terran as I felt it was so powerful I would only lose like two games out of ten. I will probably go randoming for fun anyways when the game is released.
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AoE is the ultimate macro game. I always giggle a bit when people talk about how hard SC macro is - managing pre-defined base slots with two different resources. Imagine there being four resources, with some resource types even having multiple ways to get it (i.e. sheep, berries, farms), no pre-defined expansion locations, building resource gathering buildings (i.e. mills, mines)... Lord that game was taxing. Oh and you could even build a water economy. Fishing boats!
That complexity actually limited it as a spectator game, though, similar to how Halo is a popular competitive game because of its simplicity and ability for anyone to enjoy it. A good case of how keeping things simple often will boost its popularity.
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I play Zerg and Protoss
cause I really hate playing my own race 
In DOW2
I play Orcs and Tyranids
In War3
I play Orcs and Undead
I loathe AoE cause there is only HUMANS!
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Heh, I had some pretty good times with AoE 3. I usually play with 2 of my friends. Since we don't have legit copies, we usually settle for 3v5 expert AI, and give the AI a 50% econ bonus for some crazy games. Each game usually lasts an hour long, and it involves 2 of us barely surviving while the 3rd person builds up a huge mortar/samurai army.
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AoE never really appealed to me for some reason :/ Great game, but just never was my cup of tea.
Whenever I play a game, I usually pick the flashiest race. The one with the most cool animation/spells/effects/design. So for StarCraft, it was always Protoss. I picked up Terran when I first played SC1 and it lasted just long enough for me to spot Protoss and I switched.
In Warcraft 3, it was Night Elf and a bit of UD. Couldn't STAND human or Orc (just like I can't stand Terran in SC).
I don't know... I like my units to pew-pew :|
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40 minutes is kinda excessive, isn't? I'm pretty sure you can get to 200/200 supply with full upgrades in less than half that time.
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On July 22 2010 05:52 e4e5nf3 wrote:
40 minutes is kinda excessive, isn't? I'm pretty sure you can get to 200/200 supply with full upgrades in less than half that time.
Yeah, sure, but you couldn't mass armies during the next 30 mins without the 100k of everything.
I remember losing so many games because I had no resources left 
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Sounds like you just want to 1a2a3a constantly and watch your units fight.
Couldn't you just make a custom map where you spawn tons of shit repeatedly and save yourself 40 minutes every game?
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Aoe3 treaty players. omg :o What were your ESOs in aoe3? TAD wasn't that bad after the fanpatch came out, in fact the game was the most balanced it ever was after the FP. I was also an aoe3 player but I never played no rush 40 seriously, I was mostly a sup player. ^^
oh and hi bart
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On July 22 2010 06:02 Backpack wrote:
Sounds like you just want to 1a2a3a constantly and watch your units fight.
Couldn't you just make a custom map where you spawn tons of shit repeatedly and save yourself 40 minutes every game?
You have never palyed it right?
It wasn't just 1a2a3a, if you just sacrificed your units to your enemy, you would eventually loose your all your resources, and then you loose. you had to come up with good times to sneak in cannons and other damagedealers. Micro wasn't plentyful but it occured.
EDIT: And I sucked at AoE, I was master sergeant at best
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On July 22 2010 05:12 Mindcrime wrote:
I chose zerg because the race was actually fun in brood war.
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I feel your pain bro
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The only real micro that happened in AoE3 was the hit and run by skirmishers and the Pikemen/xbow/longbow micro against cavalry. But the amount of harass that was possible in that game made it so macro intensive that it really gave you a headache. A group of cavalry finding a far off group of peasants on a gold mine or buffalo patch.
I personally played British even when they were terrible. I loved house booming which is why I think i took a liking to zerg and their ability to mass produce drones. The hydralisk also feels very longbow men like.
Was rank 39 on AoE3.. which is by no means the best.. but it was definitely way above average.
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zerg because i like that macro-mechanic-skill-style, probably because i loved aoe2 so much. when i played it the most i was like 8-12 years old though.
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I hate terran starport tech (lol cloaking guardians and 9range AA) and marauders.
Facing marauders as protoss is retarded so I chose zerg.
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