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DocSnyder
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany137 Posts
July 19 2010 21:16 GMT
#21
Technically i like them to be on there very useful essentially late game,but ive found off i acually play better when they completely off,its easyer to micro and tell thing apart...

Always on is just a disgusting mess,its not their fault however,more the game,in which unlike sc1 everything is just stuck with glue to eachother....i rally do hate that part of sc2,armies dont look like armies instead big round balls...oh and the map pool doesnt exactly help,its just chokes upon more chokes ,why couldnt blizz take a page from sc1 pool where all the map had a big open terrain in the middle.....

Generallly it makes things less of a mess, and if find it really helps,still lifebars are very important,infact the higher you go in ranks the more precise the play becomes....i blame it all on sc2...thank god for alt....
Damn i cant max this game:(
Skee
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 21:16:29
July 19 2010 21:16 GMT
#22
I think they should have an option in the menu to be below units like in sc1.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32276 Posts
July 19 2010 21:17 GMT
#23
On July 20 2010 05:44 GreEny K wrote:
There's in an option in settings to disable this, I don't see why you are complaining about something that can be turned off or changed.


Because he can't change vods?
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Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 21:19:57
July 19 2010 21:18 GMT
#24
I have an issue atm that i cant really see what units i have selected, i didnt have this problem in phase 1. Anyone know if anything changed?

I would enjoy ALT to be a toggle instead of a "hold down"
DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
July 19 2010 21:19 GMT
#25
When always show health bars is selected holding alt removes all health bars visibility. There are less times when health bars are a distraction then there are times when they are useful. So Always is the better option for me.

I just wish here was a separate option for all production/duration bars to be always on regardless of the health bar choice or state. It is the main reason I always have them on.
"Poor guy. I really did not deserve that win. So this is what it's like to play Protoss..." - IdrA
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 03:43:33
July 19 2010 21:20 GMT
#26
I always have it turned on because it helps with rapid decision making on whether you should engage or not, or which probe to target with your zergling because of low health/shields. That said, I would prefer if they removed it because its graphically unappealing and grants an advantage over people who don't take full used of it. When your commentating a match, I would suggest turning it off as the information isn't really THAT important (on a match wide scale) to spectators, and if some spectacular micro is going on then the commentator can just select the units involved.
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
tipakee
Profile Joined April 2010
United States127 Posts
July 19 2010 21:23 GMT
#27
I play with health bars on because of the advantage they give you in a battle, also i have never encountered a situation where having the health bars turned off was advantages. Losing additional units or forcing yourself to perform additional actions per minute just because something doesn't look pretty is a pretty sorry excuse.
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 21:26:15
July 19 2010 21:24 GMT
#28
On July 20 2010 06:13 Synwave wrote:
A whole lot of the comments in this thread missed the key point the OP was making... COMMENTATED REPLAYS!
Not his own personal matches. So saying stupid crap like "you can turn them off stop bitching hurr de durrr" just shows you didn't read the OP at all and are just blindly commenting. Heres to hoping for one of those new hammers to kick some butt in here.
Apparently this is going to need a lot of reiteration in this thread, because it feels like tons of people are still missing this.

The OP is not talking about playing with the bars always on, he is talking about watching commentated replays/VODs with the bars always on.
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
Renseru
Profile Joined July 2010
United States45 Posts
July 19 2010 21:29 GMT
#29
Commentators probably have them on because they play with them on...

/thread

Unless you want to talk about them when you are playing.
You're born broke, you die broke, everything in between is variance.
purerythem
Profile Joined June 2009
United States245 Posts
July 19 2010 21:29 GMT
#30
health bars are preference.

I started off playing with no health bars, and switched to only show health bars when units are selected. Again I decided to change and show health bars at all times. I didn't like it at first, but now I love it as its easier to micro away the low hp unit. I've never had a problem like that picture above as I never allow my opponent to mass an army size that becomes annoying.
tipakee
Profile Joined April 2010
United States127 Posts
July 19 2010 21:30 GMT
#31
On July 20 2010 06:24 Tsagacity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 06:13 Synwave wrote:
A whole lot of the comments in this thread missed the key point the OP was making... COMMENTATED REPLAYS!
Not his own personal matches. So saying stupid crap like "you can turn them off stop bitching hurr de durrr" just shows you didn't read the OP at all and are just blindly commenting. Heres to hoping for one of those new hammers to kick some butt in here.
Apparently this is going to need a lot of reiteration in this thread, because it feels like tons of people are still missing this.

The OP is not talking about playing with the bars always on, he is talking about watching commentated replays/VODs with the bars always on.

I know i have a low post count but i would like to point out that you play how you practice. I use Vods and replays as a tool to improve my play so i don't think you should use differing settings for games or replays, thus healthbars should remain on.
USn
Profile Joined March 2010
United States376 Posts
July 19 2010 21:48 GMT
#32
On July 20 2010 06:00 Famehunter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 05:53 VirtualAlex wrote:

Also when you have a 200 food army, why do you even care if they are there or not, it's not like you are going to micro the weak ones to the back or anything.


But you'd at least get to see what the units fighting actually are as oposed to a battle of green/yellow/red dots.

Why cant they make something like a dammage taken bar instead.
all your units show no healthbar and as soon as they take dmg then you see it. that would make watching comentated replays so much more enjoyeable.


That's a really really good idea.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
July 19 2010 21:51 GMT
#33
It's fine the way it is... I hope they don't change it.

Grats on making a custom game with 200/200 out of ghosts and putting all the ghosts on top of supply depots...

Really realistic scenario you got goin there
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 19 2010 21:58 GMT
#34
On July 20 2010 06:06 woolly wrote:
What they need to do is have "alt" toggle between always on and never. Currently, you have to press and hold "alt" to see healthbars, which is totally annoying.


A thousand times THIS.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
regulator_mk
Profile Joined June 2010
United States127 Posts
July 19 2010 22:01 GMT
#35
On July 20 2010 06:19 DeCoup wrote:
When always show health bars is selected holding alt removes all health bars visibility.

This. Really, commentators just need to make sure to turn off the health bars when they become too much of a distraction in really big fights. Most of the time, it's nice to have the health bars there.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
July 19 2010 22:08 GMT
#36
Who's ever going to have that many ghosts?
ascoe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Korea (South)133 Posts
July 19 2010 22:13 GMT
#37
it'd be great to see an option for 50% transparent health bars
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
July 19 2010 22:15 GMT
#38
KEK, what kinda picture is that... so biased....
I'm like badass squared | KeitZer.489
Famehunter
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada586 Posts
July 19 2010 22:17 GMT
#39
On July 20 2010 06:51 -orb- wrote:
It's fine the way it is... I hope they don't change it.

Grats on making a custom game with 200/200 out of ghosts and putting all the ghosts on top of supply depots...

Really realistic scenario you got goin there


Well how about this then:

[image loading]

This was taken from just a random youtube video. It could be much much worse. But if you insist I can add milions of pictures similar to this because it's basically what we get to see when we wanna watch some pro replays...
Velox Versutus vigilans
InfiniteIce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States794 Posts
July 19 2010 22:18 GMT
#40
They do have a toggle.

Just hit the "H" key with no units selected. Now they're on. Hit it again. Now they're off.

Not that it matters anymore with beta down.
i keep going back to my response to chill's fake PM and laughing, then immediately getting a feeling that i assume i'd get if i had an orgasm and the girl said "hahaha guess what i have a dick" -FakeSteve
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