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DuncanIdaho
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States465 Posts
July 05 2010 21:38 GMT
#81
Well, no rush, I'm loving the highlights at the moment. Perhaps it would be nice to know what units macro well against others, or micro well. And perhaps it would be easier if we reduce things to typical groupings one will encounter. For instance, several zealots with a few sentries is a typical thing to scout and see. Or mass rines, rines and mauraders ( sometimes with medivac((s))...).

I tend to attempt to tech up to something better, but typically I find scouting to be a feeling of, well I see it coming, they'll get here right as the counters are still in production and not quite finished... But sometimes I get lucky and I see their army and have time to tech up. And I realize getting a peek at their army is only one part of scouting, knowing what buildings are out and what xpos they're attempting to grab are also spoils of scouting, but my game tends to lack when i see a mixed group. I can deal with mass anything, given sufficient time to build a mass of the countering unit, but when they mix stuff, I grit my teeth, mix stuff on my own that I think might work, and sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. And I'm not wanting to know the "Do this and you'll always win" advice, but just recommended counters that work against typical things we'll see, and preferably counters that are reasonable to have made in time (either needing micro or not, of course, though the less micro necessary the better :p ).

For instance, in SC1 I remember if I see a 6 pool going on and I'm terran, I better have a bunker near my mineral line fast, and this works in SC2 as well. Furthermore, this isn't too difficult to put in place, since a barracks should already be up early, and a bunker is quite fast, which can have 1-2 rines in it and be good enough. Another thing I do, is if I am Terran and I see mass zealots, I make a few hellions, and then I micro them, which works wonderfully. I'll have to start making the speed upgrade for lings if I see mass zealots, though perhaps there's a better, more reasonable Zerg counter which can be done faster, given enough larvae... But anywhos, I look forward to your videos, keep up the good work! :D

And thanks again for everything!
~Duncan Idaho
The spice must flow... Grammar lesson: "than" is used for quantity comparisons, "then" is used for chronological statements. The next forum user who says, "I'd do such and such, THAN I'd do such and such else," is gonna make me cry...
Rakgoska
Profile Joined July 2010
United States20 Posts
July 05 2010 22:26 GMT
#82
Great Stuff, as a Pre-Bronze Silver player hoping to hit plat/diamond when beta comes back up and SC2 goes live WOOT WOOT. Diamond here I come.
Look to the sky just before you die, it's the last time you will.
Trebis
Profile Joined March 2010
United States182 Posts
July 06 2010 23:41 GMT
#83
OP updated with the latest video, this time about a heavily requested, and extremely important topic: Expansion Timing.




HD isn't processed yet for the second video but...oh well
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GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
July 06 2010 23:45 GMT
#84
Nice videos, keep up the good work man. Reminds me of back in the day when I had free time =[

oh also, you may want to just jump right into the action a bit more and less intro chat at the beginning as it causes me to lose focus and start paying attention to other things.

Good Luck!
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
DuncanIdaho
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States465 Posts
July 07 2010 04:53 GMT
#85
I love you, Trebis, you are teh awesomez! I'll give you all my thumbs and subscriptions I can

I love the idea of the tech xpo, never thought to think of it that way, but you're absolutely right. I always thought I was attack expanding, but that is apparently a class all it's own, and it's helpful to think of it that way...

Keep up the good work!
The spice must flow... Grammar lesson: "than" is used for quantity comparisons, "then" is used for chronological statements. The next forum user who says, "I'd do such and such, THAN I'd do such and such else," is gonna make me cry...
Trebis
Profile Joined March 2010
United States182 Posts
July 07 2010 16:03 GMT
#86
On July 07 2010 08:45 GreatFall wrote:
Nice videos, keep up the good work man. Reminds me of back in the day when I had free time =[

oh also, you may want to just jump right into the action a bit more and less intro chat at the beginning as it causes me to lose focus and start paying attention to other things.

Good Luck!

Perhaps I should put up some cat videos behind my face while I'm talking....might hold people's interest better ;-D This is youtube after all....
Are your friends all noobs? Send them to SC2 Noob School! www.youtube.com/sc2noobschool
Thunderflesh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States382 Posts
July 08 2010 02:48 GMT
#87
These are really great, thank you!
You'll worry less about what people think about you when you realize how seldom they do.
DuncanIdaho
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-11 03:26:24
July 11 2010 03:23 GMT
#88
On July 08 2010 01:03 Trebis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 08:45 GreatFall wrote:
Nice videos, keep up the good work man. Reminds me of back in the day when I had free time =[

oh also, you may want to just jump right into the action a bit more and less intro chat at the beginning as it causes me to lose focus and start paying attention to other things.

Good Luck!

Perhaps I should put up some cat videos behind my face while I'm talking....might hold people's interest better ;-D This is youtube after all....


I think your intro is just fine, despite the fact that my wife accuses me of possessing ADHD, with her special education teaching background. :p

However, after all the statistics/probability theory journal articles I have had to read for graduate school, I have the ability to sit through anything. Except church, that puts me to sleep. But you don't, and I enjoy your videos. And please, no cats...

thats what Icanhascheezburger is for :p
The spice must flow... Grammar lesson: "than" is used for quantity comparisons, "then" is used for chronological statements. The next forum user who says, "I'd do such and such, THAN I'd do such and such else," is gonna make me cry...
Scene
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada22 Posts
July 11 2010 05:47 GMT
#89
I thought the videos were real informative, even for intermediate players like myself. As an intermediate player they just fine tune what you already know and make you more conscious of certain elements of play as you incorporate it into your games.

As for the argument of the background being your room, I don't see what the big issue is. It's on youtube, not ESPN, and there's no content in it Chris Hansen wouldn't approve of, so I see no issue.

Also, I think you might be on to something here with the cat videos in the background.
goneim
Profile Joined May 2010
China201 Posts
July 13 2010 17:45 GMT
#90
Nice thread, ill be following ur updates Trebis, thx 4 everything!
Day[9] Fan Club Member #516
Sanasante
Profile Joined March 2010
United States321 Posts
July 13 2010 17:58 GMT
#91
A lot of people overlook the Expansion during an attack method. It is by far the safest and most effect method of expanding. The problem with it is if your of an upper caliber by the time your expansion is done you usually have killed your opponent. >.<
It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light
DuncanIdaho
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-13 19:57:13
July 13 2010 19:56 GMT
#92
Unless your meager expansion-attack-force is meant only to harrass & distract, and has no chance of winning the game outright unless they are just complete noobs...

For example, bling bombing their workers, forcing them to lick their wounds temporarily...
The spice must flow... Grammar lesson: "than" is used for quantity comparisons, "then" is used for chronological statements. The next forum user who says, "I'd do such and such, THAN I'd do such and such else," is gonna make me cry...
Trebis
Profile Joined March 2010
United States182 Posts
July 15 2010 03:14 GMT
#93
UPDATE:
New video covers a very heavily requested topic: Unit Counters. I hope this video can convince you at least a little bit that the concept of a "unit counter" is not as important as many new players think--things like positioning, upgrades, and micro can have a much bigger impact on a battle than any perceived existance of "counter."

Are your friends all noobs? Send them to SC2 Noob School! www.youtube.com/sc2noobschool
DuncanIdaho
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 12:22:59
July 16 2010 12:22 GMT
#94
Good point, my apologies. Guess we should just open up the unit tester and play with things till we get an intuitive feel for how things work.

Edit: And cudos for the gf move-in, always fun.
The spice must flow... Grammar lesson: "than" is used for quantity comparisons, "then" is used for chronological statements. The next forum user who says, "I'd do such and such, THAN I'd do such and such else," is gonna make me cry...
Trebis
Profile Joined March 2010
United States182 Posts
July 23 2010 18:42 GMT
#95
New Unit Spotlight on Void Rays is CHAARGING ITS LASERS

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Makh
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada143 Posts
July 23 2010 18:54 GMT
#96
Another solid video with solid production. Keep it up!
SC2 Instructional Audio Commentaries @ http://www.youtube.com/user/MakhStarcraft
Colty.colty
Profile Joined May 2010
United States23 Posts
July 23 2010 19:02 GMT
#97
Nice video on the Void Ray, though I believe the "fazing" technique was being addressed by Blizzard, either with stopping the insta-damage or the charging on your own buildings. We'll have to wait and see, I suppose.
[¬º-°]¬
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
July 23 2010 19:19 GMT
#98
Such a good job Trebis, I love watching. Keep em' coming.
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10721 Posts
July 23 2010 19:20 GMT
#99
awesome man, keep up the hard work, it's stuff like this that really helps the community, screw paying for coaching =)
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Zombo Joe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada850 Posts
July 23 2010 21:25 GMT
#100
Fazing is kinda over powered but at the same time only skilled players can really do it.

But taking out 2 Thors with one Voidray?

Lol
I am Terranfying.
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