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Razer Announces their Starcraft 2 Line - Page 14

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DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 00:49:38
June 16 2010 00:49 GMT
#261
I really enjoy my Razer stuff... maybe that's why I want them so much? I prefer it to any of the logitech stuff too.

Plus Razer is an awesome company, support SC2 as well as other pro games.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 00:55:49
June 16 2010 00:52 GMT
#262
You know your APM is high when you take your eyes off the screen to look at your keyboard and mouse to make sure you spam fast enough.

Those 3 things look awful...

I've never understood why people buy these high priced mice/keyboards, are they really that much better than the average normal priced ones?

Getting a decent mouse is definitely worth it.

Plus Razer is an awesome company, support SC2 as well as other pro games.

I've had a lot of Razer stuff... Breaks like crazy. Their mice have timebombs in them. Mine currently works with a z-axis bug and I've been sending an incredible amount of e-mails (8) in the last 4 days, today they finally told me to RMA it...

Sigh.

Also
Look at the microphone frequencies... it's horrible -_-
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
June 16 2010 00:52 GMT
#263
On June 16 2010 09:47 zeuS~ wrote:
I've never understood why people buy these high priced mice/keyboards, are they really that much better than the average normal priced ones?


Because you can't right click with an apple mouse.
There's no S in KT. :P
kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 00:53:49
June 16 2010 00:53 GMT
#264
On June 16 2010 09:46 jamesr12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 09:44 kzn wrote:
On June 16 2010 09:31 DeMusliM wrote:
50g of acceleration
Erm, how much is this - and can it be turned off?


I'm pretty sure that means the mouse wont start to skip/mess up until you accelerate it at more than 50g's, not that there's default acceleration in the mouse.


haha if thats true thats helarious that it is so high


I'm not actually that sure it is. 50gs is what a mouse would experience if you took it from 0 speed to 490m/s in one second, or 49m/s in 0.1s. The concern isn't really how fast the mouse ends up moving, but how rapidly it goes from 0m/s to maximum speed - in all honesty, with highly practiced gamers its probably pretty fucking high.
Like a G6
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20166 Posts
June 16 2010 00:54 GMT
#265
I got my razer sc2 mouse 8 months ago...it's called the salmosa, it was only 20$, and it looks way better for playing sc2 than the "spectre" for 80$

and a 130$ for a keyboard? YOU HAVE TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME.

In a game where the most highly regarded equipment by pros are logitech miniob (10$) and the samsung dt-35 (5$ in korea) they come out with a package that costs over 300$. unbelievable. I'll stick to my salmosa, my 30$ sennheiser headset, and generic keyboard.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Spiffeh
Profile Joined May 2010
United States830 Posts
June 16 2010 00:56 GMT
#266
LOL "apm technology"

It's called: "Watch your replays"

...And it's FREE.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
June 16 2010 01:03 GMT
#267
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$22 US
There's no S in KT. :P
DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
June 16 2010 01:04 GMT
#268
Well, it says on their website the Abyssus has 15g of acceleration, so was just wondering what this actually means. I'm pretty sure it means acceleration on the mice - but i could be very wrong.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
June 16 2010 01:08 GMT
#269
Ok guys,

Be honest.

Poll: Do you get the nerdchills from APM tech?

No. (31)
 
52%

Yes. (18)
 
30%

Yes, but I'd never admit it to anyone. (11)
 
18%

60 total votes

Your vote: Do you get the nerdchills from APM tech?

(Vote): Yes.
(Vote): No.
(Vote): Yes, but I'd never admit it to anyone.

DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
June 16 2010 01:09 GMT
#270
On June 16 2010 09:52 Djzapz wrote:


Show nested quote +
Plus Razer is an awesome company, support SC2 as well as other pro games.

I've had a lot of Razer stuff... Breaks like crazy. Their mice have timebombs in them. Mine currently works with a z-axis bug and I've been sending an incredible amount of e-mails (8) in the last 4 days, today they finally told me to RMA it...

Sigh.

Also
Look at the microphone frequencies... it's horrible -_-



I've had a Razer boomslang that's worked for 8+ years now. I've had other razer mouses as well and not one as broken. Same for all my other Razer stuff.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
Crucius
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia299 Posts
June 16 2010 01:15 GMT
#271
Plantronic 777 > Razer Banshee

Oh wait, sorry, 777 doesn't have APM tech. Banshee FTW :L
kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
June 16 2010 01:17 GMT
#272
On June 16 2010 10:04 DeMusliM wrote:
Well, it says on their website the Abyssus has 15g of acceleration, so was just wondering what this actually means. I'm pretty sure it means acceleration on the mice - but i could be very wrong.


I can tell you its not a default acceleration. Their Deathadder page says 15g accel, and it has no discernable mouse acceleration unless you turn it on in the drivers (its off by default).

Given that I have never caused this thing to skip, though, I have to wonder if 50g isn't actually like 20g of overkill in the best case.
Like a G6
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 16 2010 01:17 GMT
#273
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"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Crucius
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia299 Posts
June 16 2010 01:20 GMT
#274
LMAO Djzapz, you make a very good point :L
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
June 16 2010 01:25 GMT
#275
I don't hold the mouse like its going to run away from me. I could easily see at least the left sides lights.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
June 16 2010 01:27 GMT
#276
On June 16 2010 10:04 DeMusliM wrote:
Well, it says on their website the Abyssus has 15g of acceleration, so was just wondering what this actually means. I'm pretty sure it means acceleration on the mice - but i could be very wrong.


There is no in-built software or hardware mouse acceleration on the Abyssus (I have one) or any other Razer mouse. The acceleration they are talking about is a person physically accelerating the mouse with their hands. In other words, the kind of acceleration a mouse can undergo even if it's not plugged in/if the computer's off.

For RTS, this is an unimportant number. You probably don't use 400 DPI to play SC2.

========Longer Explanation

Let's take the DeathAdder for example (I just googled it and it came up instantly). It has this little spec in the spec list

"60–120 inches per second and 15g of acceleration"

These are parameters that the mouse hardware/software can withstand. The inches per second parameter is generally the speed at which the mouse tracking no longer works properly - the tracking "curve" gets bent and the mouse cursor exhibits odd behavior not necessarily corresponding to hand movement. The acceleration parameter is the same idea. Past 15 g's, the tracking in the mouse will just not work.

If you use a low DPI cursor setting, you are more likely to move your mouse (physically) at a higher velocity. For players that dial down their DPI all the way to play e.g. FPS games with super-low cursor movement, these parameters give them the "physical limits" of the mouse hardware and software. If you use higher DPI settings (1000+), you will probably never have to worry about these unless your screen is the size of a small building.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 16 2010 01:30 GMT
#277
On June 16 2010 10:25 DooMDash wrote:
I don't hold the mouse like its going to run away from me. I could easily see at least the left sides lights.

I don't look at my hands when I play - figure it's more important to look at my screen rather than worry about "APM" when I can gauge my own speed.

The headphones are overpriced but I really like the APM meter on the. Green means you can talk to me, yellows means keep it simple, red means STFU.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
June 16 2010 01:30 GMT
#278
On June 16 2010 02:31 wishbones wrote:
MAN, i would buy this just to show up at a lan looking like a commando with his SC2 gear :D

I would obviously wear the headset normally, and have the mouse be some time of side strap or w.e, then the keyboard.. duhh!!! My Machine gun!!

I would walk into The old Ottawa lan hideout, kick the door abroad and say! "HELL ITS ABOUT TIME"


WUT LAN?!?!
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
June 16 2010 01:36 GMT
#279
On June 16 2010 10:30 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 10:25 DooMDash wrote:
I don't hold the mouse like its going to run away from me. I could easily see at least the left sides lights.

I don't look at my hands when I play - figure it's more important to look at my screen rather than worry about "APM" when I can gauge my own speed.

The headphones are overpriced but I really like the APM meter on the. Green means you can talk to me, yellows means keep it simple, red means STFU.

I agree.. but I have peripheral vision.. you? I mean, is it that hard to see flashing lights in the corner of your eye?
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 01:45:27
June 16 2010 01:44 GMT
#280
On June 16 2010 10:36 DooMDash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 10:30 Djzapz wrote:
On June 16 2010 10:25 DooMDash wrote:
I don't hold the mouse like its going to run away from me. I could easily see at least the left sides lights.

I don't look at my hands when I play - figure it's more important to look at my screen rather than worry about "APM" when I can gauge my own speed.

The headphones are overpriced but I really like the APM meter on the. Green means you can talk to me, yellows means keep it simple, red means STFU.

I agree.. but I have peripheral vision.. you? I mean, is it that hard to see flashing lights in the corner of your eye?

When I focus on a game my peripheral vision ends at the edge of the screen. Perhaps that's how I got to play high level CS1.6 online and at LANs. When I play something and it's intense I completely shut down the outside. Have you ever played with an APM meter? For 10 seconds I see it and then it just doesn't exist anymore because it's futile as hell.

What if I did see the little light, what good would it do to me? I can estimate my APM if I want to, but I don't need to. What's important is "am I fast enough". Personally I know if I'm going as fast as I can go... It's just there - I'm conscious of it. I don't need a babysitter.

If, when you play SC, you bother yourself with little lights so you can gauge your speed, you're missing out man. Game sense is good for you.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
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