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On June 12 2010 16:02 lolaloc wrote:
I think we should have some kind of password before making a post in threads like this. The password would be revealed after reading/watching the material.
So many people didn't watch the video.
Agreed, all I hear is rumoring.
Artosis: This could be the last BW OSL. Hwanni?
Hwanni: I don't think so. BW will go on.
Artosis: You heard it here first!
TL.net: Oh noes!
Hwanni always looks pissed off in these videos...
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It'll be interesting to see what'll happen when all the most talented players get their hands on the game, the stylistic development of the game will go so fast. Also there'll be map designers other than Blizzard.
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Baltimore, USA22250 Posts
On June 12 2010 15:58 Saracen wrote:
Terrible news T___T
I didn't see any news in this thread. 
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On June 12 2010 12:59 AJMcSpiffy wrote:
I'm sure the BW scene wont just disappear overnight, at least I hope it wont. I'm more interested in how they're going to be affected by the lack of lan. The possibility of lag in a pro event is not a good thing.
People have reported that when playing SC2 at the same location it is almost like lan.
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im so happy cause i dont play bwar, i came from fps background ^_______^ !!!
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Well, I think the title is misleading and wants to attract views and create unnesseccary drama, which at this moment is the last thing we need. As few people mentioned, osl switching to SC2 is more what Artosis wants, not what Hwani really thinks.
I`m sure that OGN and MBC are making plans on running SC2 tournaments and leagues and I`m sure that they will do it, but it has to pass at least an year to see how SC2 will develop. In my opinion although SC2 is a great game to play, it is has some very big issues with being spectator friendly, which is what really matters for a broadcasting companies. I think they will have to see how this aspect of the game turns out. WC3 is an example of this.
No lan also is a big issue for live broadcasting. Balancing the game is also very important. And last, but not least it is very important how the korean community will react to the game.
These are all uncertanties that have to be taken into account when people like Artosis make statements like that.
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I love how all the people with under ~200 posts are like, "YEAH!! This is great news! SC2 needs to replace BW!" And all the forum vets are like, "Seriously? WTF? This seems a bit fast...."
Honestly, I feel like alot of SC2 players don't fully appreciate what BW really was for so many people. It's the end of an era folks, to SCBW, "Good night sweet Prince, you shall be missed...."
+ Show Spoiler +(Seriously though, never giving up on BW, SC2 can suck a dick.)
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On June 12 2010 16:14 mdb wrote:
Well, I think the title is misleading and wants to attract views and create unnesseccary drama, which at this moment is the last thing we need.
Pretty much, and look how well its worked as half the people didn't even watch it and just entered panic mode. Not sure if Artosis set out to troll with that title or just to overhype this.
I personally don't think this next season will be the last bw OSL. As long as demand is there, the game will be carried, and as seen in the last finals (even in a season plagued by a huge scandal) demand is still there.
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This is great news. All good things must come to an end, and after 12 years BW should move over and give the new generation a chance.
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actually the interview is very unclear. Artosis also did not ask for reasons.
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um, what is with this title
shameless exaggeration to fish for views you'd get anyway?
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On June 12 2010 16:27 faction123 wrote:
um, what is with this title
shameless exaggeration to fish for views you'd get anyway?
the only difference is that Hwanni said "eventually" and not "probably"
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;( if this is the last OSL, RIP BW. Good news is SC2 will be more marketable than BW from a global perspective, although i feel like the quality of games and skill won't match SC:BW.
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On June 12 2010 16:02 lolaloc wrote:
So many people didn't watch the video.
The player on that site makes it artificially difficult to watch the videos. I watched it after Charlie Murphy uploaded it... there was no content and Artosis is just trying to will the Starcraft proscene away.
On June 12 2010 16:03 baytripper wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 15:31 leonardus wrote:
NO chance for SC2 to take over SC1 so soon. In the beginning will be some fun, but will this story will end soon like Warcraft 3. There are still to many fun of SC1 in korea for OSL to end now. WC3 [...] more diverse races
LOL.
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Why are OGN negociating with Gretech about SCBW rights if they do not intend to run more SCBW OSLs ?
Edit : whatever the efforts Blizzard can make, SC2 will NEVER be exciting to watch. I remember jumping from my seat totally crazy when seeing Jangbi's or Nony's huge storms PvT. Now any random noob can use the spells smartcast T_T
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On June 12 2010 16:14 mdb wrote:
it has to pass at least an year to see how SC2 will develop. In my opinion although SC2 is a great game to play, it is has some very big issues with being spectator friendly, which is what really matters for a broadcasting companies. I think they will have to see how this aspect of the game turns out. WC3 is an example of this.
they have a year
the whole interview was talking about the NEXT OSL season, not this season. SC2 comes out in slightly over a month
and again, there's no reason to compare SC2 to WC3. WC3 intentionally diverged from the warcraft/starcraft paradigm by adding hero leveling, items, way more auras and spells to keep track of, etc, because the plan for the franchise was to eventually make it an RPG. these are things that are very obviously not spectator friendly because they're just numbers without accompanying explosions, massive armies, etc
SC2 is extremely similar to brood war, and in some ways much easier to follow since tech paths have been simplified and abilities have been given more visual feedback (EMP, neural parasite) as well as made less boring (force field essentially replacing stasis, HSM replacing irradiate)
the main reason SC2 isn't exciting to watch right now is that strategies are not well-developed enough. once players come up with ways to play really really optimally so they are barely surviving the entire match thanks to godly timing and unit control, it will feel much more like watching BW.
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Baltimore, USA22250 Posts
Corrected the horribly misleading title.
After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.
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Korea (South)1306 Posts
On June 12 2010 16:30 clickrush wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 16:27 faction123 wrote:
um, what is with this title
shameless exaggeration to fish for views you'd get anyway? the only difference is that Hwanni said "eventually" and not "probably"
He's acting like Hwanni said "This is the last BW OSL, SC2 is going to be huge and next and awesome that you're on it.". The difference between "OSL will eventually switch over" and "OSL will probably switch over" is huge.
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Theme of the thread: People fear change.
This isn't new. Humanity's never been able to adjust.
/fart
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