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anotheracc
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile5 Posts
June 18 2010 23:20 GMT
#421
This thread turned out to be rage against "the new" (like being old is "1337" or something and renders everyone else's opinions wrong) and against the videomaker, it shows something, huh?

This video says actually nothing, and we can only wait for the events to come.
mitten
Profile Joined June 2010
10 Posts
June 19 2010 02:02 GMT
#422
OMG, I was "warned." Mods -- It won't happen again and I'm sorry.

I just think Artosis was being misleading and that if you're going to make some grand speculation you should back it up with something ..... anything. Else, it's worthless.

Anyway, sorry, Mods. I didn't mean to mess with your awesome forum.

mitten
Profile Joined June 2010
10 Posts
June 19 2010 02:06 GMT
#423
OMG, I was "warned." Mods -- It won't happen again and I'm sorry.

I just think Artosis was being misleading and that if you're going to make some grand speculation you should back it up with something ..... anything. Else, it's worthless.

Anyway, sorry, Mods. I didn't mean to mess with your awesome forum.

konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
June 19 2010 02:11 GMT
#424
what

no way ((
POGGERS
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
June 19 2010 02:13 GMT
#425
I am not excited for the future anal probing that ActiBlizzard/Gretech has in store for us.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
June 19 2010 03:37 GMT
#426
is there any hwanni commentary about upmagic?
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2986 Posts
June 19 2010 12:14 GMT
#427
On June 18 2010 12:45 Ultra Brian wrote:
I don't think Artosis was right about saying Effort cheaped out Flash. Effort realised that Flash plays a greedy Mech Game that has him vulnerable at the beginning and unstoppable near the end. I think it this was a great way to deal with it and believe it is a good strategy against this style in the Future. If Flash is so good he should have adapted his build to compensate for Efforts change in Strategy. In the last 3 games Effort played pretty similarly.


True. As Idra said, 14 CC is a risky build even if you execute it perfectly. Effort made the smart choice to not get led into a late game 200/200 3/3 upgrades macro slugfest where Flash is so good. I thnik Effort deserved the win even if Flash is probably the best all around player.

Anyway thx for the interview, pretty interesting to have a real insight of the SC scene from a manager's point of view.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-19 12:29:20
June 19 2010 12:26 GMT
#428
Last time I checked. The maps were fine. Effort deserved to be there. He played almost flawless in the games he WON. You really expect Effort to let Flash get a free expo up like that? -_-

Got to love favoritism. Seriously man, it's gut checked time.
EndlessThirst
Profile Joined June 2010
United States16 Posts
June 21 2010 01:37 GMT
#429
I don't like how artosis keeps saying effort didn't deserve it. it's pretty irritating.
wut wud Mel Gibson do?
EndlessThirst
Profile Joined June 2010
United States16 Posts
June 21 2010 02:02 GMT
#430
can't have both bw and sc2 going at the same time, the split for the players would be too drastic. there's no way they'd be able to do both at once
wut wud Mel Gibson do?
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
June 21 2010 02:31 GMT
#431
On June 21 2010 11:02 EndlessThirst wrote:
can't have both bw and sc2 going at the same time, the split for the players would be too drastic. there's no way they'd be able to do both at once


It's possible for the 2 games to coexist. The current BW leagues can keep supporting BW and possibly have a smaller league for SC2. The release of SC2 can draw in new potential sponsors, so they can run a league of their own.
ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
June 21 2010 03:16 GMT
#432
Wow, so much hate towards Artosis lately... Sad, real sad. Not that he is any better than anyone else but his hard work should count for SOMETHING and some respect. If you disagree with him whats the use of low blows, make your own damn videos for fucks sake.
Being weak is a choice.
deanx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States78 Posts
June 21 2010 04:47 GMT
#433
On June 21 2010 11:02 EndlessThirst wrote:
can't have both bw and sc2 going at the same time, the split for the players would be too drastic. there's no way they'd be able to do both at once



If you accept artosis' and idra's ideas that progamers in Korea overtrain, then it's possible that a lucrative mix of both games would be healthier and better for both games overall.
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
June 21 2010 05:00 GMT
#434
i love BW and always have for over a decade now.

but SC2... is as good as I wanted it to be. The perfect successor to BW.
SkyLegenD
Profile Joined February 2010
United States304 Posts
June 21 2010 22:18 GMT
#435
Really hope it stays at BW. Screw Blizzard.
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." - Napoleon Bonaparte
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
June 23 2010 14:53 GMT
#436
sc2 has big shoes to fill.
Writer
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
June 23 2010 15:36 GMT
#437
On June 22 2010 07:18 SkyLegenD wrote:
Really hope it stays at BW. Screw Blizzard.


screw you bw noobs
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
June 29 2010 13:47 GMT
#438
On June 24 2010 00:36 heishe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2010 07:18 SkyLegenD wrote:
Really hope it stays at BW. Screw Blizzard.


screw you bw noobs


what? seriously?
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
June 29 2010 16:04 GMT
#439
On June 19 2010 11:02 mitten wrote:
OMG, I was "warned." Mods -- It won't happen again and I'm sorry.

I just think Artosis was being misleading and that if you're going to make some grand speculation you should back it up with something ..... anything. Else, it's worthless.

Anyway, sorry, Mods. I didn't mean to mess with your awesome forum.


LOL, it was a hook, man. I mean, no newspaper in the world would go to quite the length of baseless speculation that Artosis went to with his "This is, perhaps, the last OSL ever," but it's not criminal. Anybody who actually took 10 minutes to watch the video knows the truth.

Blame the ADD posters, not Artosis.
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