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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
June 13 2010 17:58 GMT
#381
On June 14 2010 00:30 k!llua wrote:
let's compare a game that's been refined over a decade to a game that's in beta.

sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh STOP MAKING COMPARISONS THAT ARE BLATANTLY UNFAIR

sick of hearing shit like "i prefer sc1 to sc2". you're comparing a FINAL product to something that hasn't even been released. for god sakes, give it time before being so god damn judgemental.

Obviously very few people think it's fair to compare the quality of SC2 in its current state to SC1. Which is why so many think it's absurd to replace a professional league of a game that you agree is clearly superior at present with a professional league of a game that you agree is clearly inferior at present.

SC2 should earn its wings. If we didn't expect that of new RTS, we'd have pros screwing around with C&C X: Fourth Revenge of that Bald Immortal Tiberium Guy. I mean, look at its GRAPHICKS! Makes Broodwar look sooooo five minutes ago.
My strategy is to fork people.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-13 18:03:10
June 13 2010 18:01 GMT
#382
On June 14 2010 02:38 Mastermind wrote:
I havnt read the thread, but I am a little disgusted at Artosis' gross misrepresentation of the interview in the OP.


Hwanni: "i dont think it will end at all"


well you should have read the thread before you post such things... you forget that those guys know eachother.

Look at what Idra said:

On June 14 2010 01:45 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2010 01:21 matjlav wrote:
On June 13 2010 14:34 Artosis wrote:
im giving you guys sick inside points of view, stuff you cant get any other way. i didnt mislead at all.


I appreciate the interview. I don't appreciate how you framed the information to act as if the interview answered a question that it didn't. And you only need to look at the posts in this thread to see that you did mislead people.

On June 13 2010 14:34 Artosis wrote:
i said it MIGHT BE, which hwanni echo'd in the interview.


You started off with "Yesterday was, perhaps, the last OSL qualification ever," and then, still in that context, quoted "OSL will probably switch over to SC2" (which was actually said by Hwanni in a completely different context). That is much different from just saying "this might be the last one"; that is twisting the text of the interview to suggest an answer that wasn't given.

On June 13 2010 14:34 Artosis wrote:
someone ban the retards please.


Lol, that's mature. But whatever, I'm done with this. No point in just continuing to point out the problem if Artosis is just going to flame and deny what's blatantly there.

shut up, hwanni did say it might be the last season of sc1, and that he thought it would probably switch eventually. of course artosis focused on the possible sc1->sc2 switch, thats all everyone is talking about right now and you should be happy to be getting information from one of the people whos actually part of the organizations making the decisions.

oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
June 13 2010 18:23 GMT
#383
On June 14 2010 02:58 Severedevil wrote:
Obviously very few people think it's fair to compare the quality of SC2 in its current state to SC1. Which is why so many think it's absurd to replace a professional league of a game that you agree is clearly superior at present with a professional league of a game that you agree is clearly inferior at present.

SC2 should earn its wings. If we didn't expect that of new RTS, we'd have pros screwing around with C&C X: Fourth Revenge of that Bald Immortal Tiberium Guy. I mean, look at its GRAPHICKS! Makes Broodwar look sooooo five minutes ago.


If all people thought like this we never would have had a professional league in the first place. If SC2 fails, they go back to Brood War. Simple.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
June 13 2010 19:01 GMT
#384
Why wait for SC2 to release? Tiberian Twilight is out! I mean, if after a few OSLs and stuff it doesn't pan out, we can always go back to Brood War.
My strategy is to fork people.
Powster
Profile Joined April 2010
United States650 Posts
June 13 2010 19:09 GMT
#385
I watched another older interview of that guy with artosis in it he talks about SC2 also.. and hwanni is the one who says that this might be the last OSL for SC1 in that interview i think.... which is maybe the reason artosis said things the way he did in this interview..
smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
June 13 2010 20:55 GMT
#386
well going to OSL to talk about sc2 is odd, hope u got some BW footage aswell

nice interview anyway, ty
lespostea
Profile Joined May 2010
United States256 Posts
June 13 2010 21:25 GMT
#387
Thanks for the interview but like some other people said OP is kind of misleading.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
June 13 2010 21:32 GMT
#388
On June 14 2010 06:25 lespostea wrote:
Thanks for the interview but like some other people said OP is kind of misleading.


what the hell is missleading? nothing he said is untrue/missleading. if you think that anything is missleading then pls share the divine thruth with us that you know about!
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 13 2010 23:00 GMT
#389
On June 12 2010 12:50 Artosis wrote:
"OSL will probably switch over to SC2"
Positive side - this would put more pressure on SC2 to improve as quickly as possible.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
June 14 2010 00:06 GMT
#390
Great interview, title is fine.
Hwanni
Profile Joined January 2009
Korea (South)37 Posts
June 14 2010 01:02 GMT
#391
Yo guys do not get too damn serious about this interview yo,

My statement is an assumption not a fact.

I also hope that it turns out in a best way for us and all the fans.

Don't we all just love e-Sports?

Be positive, I am just looking foward to world wide league.!!

e-STRO GO! GO!
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
June 14 2010 01:06 GMT
#392
Youtube is up!
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
DatTheMighty
Profile Joined March 2009
Vietnam122 Posts
June 14 2010 01:11 GMT
#393
hey hwanni do you think all the top progamers of broodwar will switch to sc2? or will they continue to play broodwar? i am talking like most a teamers not just the top tier. currently have sc2 beta players?

I find starcraft 2 could be a replacement for broodwar, but i am going to go with the current progamers because i really enjoy watching gamers like action. Give my props to action ttyty.
DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
June 14 2010 01:17 GMT
#394
Whhhhhhhhaaaaaaattt?
No more Broodwar? (Sadface)
Flash has yet to obtain his diamond mouse. (Sadface)
The list continues with sadfaces.

I doubt that SC2 will live up to Broodwar in OSL. The only thing we can do is to hope that SC2 OSL's will be just as awesome as the Broodwar ones were.
Let's See Who's Stronger, Your Tricks, Or My Skills.
deanx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States78 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 02:10:08
June 14 2010 02:08 GMT
#395
3:54 hwanni picks his nose and eats it at 3:59


edit: I'll apologize in advance if this post is against some rules, but I believe it had to be said
Zoltan
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States656 Posts
June 14 2010 02:14 GMT
#396
I drink to the future of Esports!
I hope sc2 reigns for another 10 years!

Hey guys! feel good about this- Sc2 will be balanced MUCH faster once korea pros get their hands on it. You all know there will be obvious abuses early that will slowly fade into the past like a bad dream =D
'HOW LONG HAVE THOSE REAPERS BEEN KILLING MY PROBES?!?!
wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 05:40:26
June 14 2010 05:39 GMT
#397
On June 14 2010 06:32 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2010 06:25 lespostea wrote:
Thanks for the interview but like some other people said OP is kind of misleading.


what the hell is missleading? nothing he said is untrue/missleading. if you think that anything is missleading then pls share the divine thruth with us that you know about!

nothing is misleading. But nothing is concrete too. All speculation. Probably he meant the title which was totaly misleading.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 14 2010 05:41 GMT
#398
On June 12 2010 23:53 Mellotron wrote:
I personally think that the worst thing about Starcraft 2 so far is all the new people that it has brought who have littered decent sites like TL etc


Why complain about further growth of a community like TL? Weren't those graphs posted that showed the amount of posts per day and users actively online on average before and after beta, etc.? You have 60 posts and joined the TL community 2-3 months ago and your'e complaining that the worst thing about this game is that people like you and thousands of others are adding on to the community?
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
June 14 2010 06:59 GMT
#399
the ONLY reason "casuals" who never knew BW or sc2 would pick sc2 as the "better e-sport in viewer entertainment" is because of the graphics


if BW had its graphics engine updated and kept its outdated user interface, people would pick it as being entertaining. the gameplay in high level BW games is just more fun to watch then sc2

if BW had its graphics engine updated and its user interface updated with no changes to game balance, it would be even more entertaining because the pros could use their high APM to do more actions leading to a game even better than sc2 as far as viewer entertainment goes




if BW and sc2 are both allowed to exist freely in the korean pro scene you will quickly see in 2 years that sc1 will have much more viewership for their tournament grand championship final games than sc2 will have because sc1 is more exciting. even if sc2 was balanced blizzard just made too many dumb decisions.

after 10 years of BW gamebreaking strategies are still coming out . 14cc went from being a "retard build flash shouldnt have used. instant death if you ever use that build. crap build" to being "the most overpowered build against zerg. unbeatable. dayum how do you stop it" in one week. i may be wrong but i cant see sc2 gameplay ever reaching that level of diverse interesting metagame ever...
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
June 14 2010 07:04 GMT
#400
So all these wild speculations, farfetched stuff, lies and slanders prooved to be correct. Now how about that...
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