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"we're in the midst of working on a comprehensive address"
This says it all: They are working on a "propaganda response" and have no intention of changing their minds ... or else he should have said that they are trying to fix the issues. It reminds me of half the treatment we got from Sonys Everquest team whenever there was a clear and obvious bug in the game (and they had A LOT of them): "Everything is working as intended." which made us come up with the saying "Its not a bug, its a feature!" So BNet 2.0 isnt bad, because it is working as intended ...
"We came to the conclusion that just throwing out a huge post that goes over everything would really dilute the conversation and make it difficult to hold a dialogue on any one concern."
Its the oldest trick in the book known to the "old romans" 2000 years ago: Divide et impera (divide and conquer).
Blizzard is getting ever deeper into the mire of dissatisfied potential customers with these responses from "public relations experts". The only response we want to hear is:
"Ok, we screwed up and you will get chat channels, LAN, titles for custom games and custom map publishing like you know and love from our older games AND we will remove Facebook and all our email-data-acquisition from the game."
There would be ZERO discussion needed after such a response and I would even give them more time to finish these things.
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"We came to the conclusion that just throwing out a huge post that goes over everything would really dilute the conversation and make it difficult to hold a dialogue on any one concern."
They've really fallen off the deep end. What a frustrating response.
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"We came to the conclusion that just throwing out a huge post that goes over everything would really dilute the conversation and make it difficult to hold a dialogue on any one concern."
Where did you see this response?
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why does everyone hate on facebook integration? =(
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Okay you guys really need to stop whining about their recent posts. A comprehensive address is in the making. They have to take time on it since they're probably discussing what to do with Bnet after hearing feedback as well as finding out the best way to deliver the message. It's going to take time, and we'll eventually get it, so be patient.
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Husky FTW I hope this slow chunky battle net ends up working out to make the game best as possible because right now it reminds me of nothing but failure and frustration love the game, just not the other stuff
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Everyone is hating on the facebook integration because it was completely unneeded and a lot of other things that needed work on were ignored.
And Facebook is for idiots.
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Kittens --> CUTE! Ty husky!
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On June 12 2010 15:22 Zombo Joe wrote:
Everyone is hating on the facebook integration because it was completely unneeded and a lot of other things that needed work on were ignored.
And Facebook is for idiots.
saying facebook is for idiots is the same as saying that chatrooms are for losers without any friends. which is obviously not the case, i enjoy the new facebook integration as it has allowed me to reconnect with several other people who I didn't know played starcraft. I don't disagree that facebook integration was not needed during the beta, but it's a welcomed feature, at least by me. Hating on the fact that it's in the game shows that you're ignorant to the fact that most internet users have a facebook account which leads to the obvious conclusion that it beneficially increases the social dynamic of the game. Just because you don't use facebook and would rather have chat rooms doesn't mean that the facebook integration isn't useful to other people.
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They unlocked regions yet? Oh.. ok still no sale then.
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On June 12 2010 15:22 Zombo Joe wrote:
Everyone is hating on the facebook integration because it was completely unneeded and a lot of other things that needed work on were ignored.
And Facebook is for idiots.
This is the stupidest post I've seen in a long time. Facebook is for idiots? How can you say that with a straight face? How can you say that and imagine any part of the rest of your argument is going to take you seriously?
Please, don't spew ignorance ont he forums.
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OK i wont go as far as the other guy saying stupid stuff like facebook is for idiots etc.But i think that Blizzard has completely misunderstood the success of Facebook.Yes Facebook has a gazillion users and growing but i can easily say that
a)a big majority of them users(including myself,made an account and use it now once a month)
b)the huge majority of its users have hardly played any serious game other than farmville and especially a demanding one like SC.
c)even the users that are playing SC a lot and like to use FB prefer to chat about games using irc,MSN,Skype or something else because FB is just not practical.
Yes Facebook is a big success but is that success based on PC users that play games a lot? Definitely no.
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the point of facebook is to find people you know so you can play the game with them, it's not an end all means of some new dynamic chat system blizzard was conjuring up... and i find it weird that some people claim that there is a correlation of playing games a lot and not using facebook much. it seems like a biased opinion more then anything as i know plenty of gamers who use facebook.
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On June 12 2010 17:05 DiTH wrote:
OK i wont go as far as the other guy saying stupid stuff like facebook is for idiots etc.But i think that Blizzard has completely misunderstood the success of Facebook.Yes Facebook has a gazillion users and growing but i can easily say that
a)a big majority of them users(including myself,made an account and use it now once a month)
b)the huge majority of its users have hardly played any serious game other than farmville and especially a demanding one like SC.
c)even the users that are playing SC a lot and like to use FB prefer to chat about games using irc,MSN,Skype or something else because FB is just not practical.
Yes Facebook is a big success but is that success based on PC users that play games a lot? Definitely no.
I'm sure you have sources for all your assertions.
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Ofc i have sources.Currently 3 ppl out of my 400 friends are planning to play SC2.Thats a good enough source for me.
And btw stop being so picky.I dont have to do a poll with 10 Million randomly selected people across the globe using facebook to make some remarks.Most of the polls even made for political reasons are made by phone and usually are around 1k-2k mark.
Its my fault that a university professor hasnt done a study yet concerning the relation of FB and Games so no1 should try and make an argument about it.
If you feel something i said is wrong say it and dont respond with a random oneliner.
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On June 12 2010 17:30 DiTH wrote:
Ofc i have sources.Currently 3 ppl out of my 400 friends are planning to play SC2.Thats a good enough source for me.
And btw stop being so picky.I dont have to do a poll with 10 Million randomly selected people across the globe using facebook to make some remarks.Most of the polls even made for political reasons are made by phone and usually are around 1k-2k mark.
Its my fault that a university professor hasnt done a study yet concerning the relation of FB and Games so no1 should try and make an argument about it.
If you feel something i said is wrong say it and dont respond with a random oneliner.
You said it yourself, if there's no proof then people shouldn't make an arguement about it. Oh, and I use facebook quite a lot and still play plenty of video games, not the least of which is Starcraft and Starcraft 2.
Just because you may not like facebook doesn't mean it's instantly a failure and holds no place in the world. Basically my opinion on the Facebook integration this entire time has been: If you don't like the feature, don't use the feature. There's nothing forcing you to use your facebook in game, or get a facebook if you don't have one. But for those of us with a facebook it's a very helpful tool to find out who among our friends are playing SC2.
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They won't admit that their product is flawed/incomplete this close to release.
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It's a bit odd to protest against Facebok, it's a decent enough feature, thousands of B.net 2.0 users, be it for SC2, Diablo 3 or next MMO will be using it, - thumbs up for that.
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They should add chat ASAP to not lose players at release, and then just promise the rest by the time the 3rd expansion comes out and I would be satisfied.
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